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Dari

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
If only Obama would show the same strength against NK, Iran, etc.

Caving in to North Korea is not a sign of strength.
 

techs

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
If only Obama would show the same strength against NK, Iran, etc.

Caving in to North Korea is not a sign of strength.
HELLO? HELLO?
Learn your history. Bush tried talking tough. That didn't work. So Bush decided he could bribe the NK's into giving up their nukes.
Obama came into office, saw the Bush plan was a complete failure and completely misguided and ended the appeasement policy of Bush.


 

WHAMPOM

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Originally posted by: inspire
Originally posted by: techs
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Originally posted by: techs
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
If only Bush had showed the same strength Obama has against NK, Iran, etc.
Fixed.

LOL.. riiight. NK is even more out of control under Obama.. Iran is fixing elections and threating to build Nukes under Obama.. Obama hasn't done a fucking thing to control these counties but hide in his corner hoping they go away. Meanwhile our journalists are being locked up in labor prisons in NK and Obama continues to do nothing.

Try getting your news from some place other than Faux News.
Obama has dismissed the Bush policy that assumed NK would give up its nuclear arms in exchange, for well, money.
Obama is moving to get a coalition of nations to actively isolate NK. Instead of Bushes pitiful claims of, we won! Obama is really doing something.
And as for Iran, last I looked under Bush his threats had rallied the Iranian people behind the mullahs and most reactionary elements of Iranian politics.
Now, Iranian moderates are in the streets demonstrating.
Unless you are so full of hate for Obama or so brainwashed by Fox, you should be thankful we have a smart and courageous President, instead of the moron Bush.

How about we wait to call the game until it's over, eh? We're nowhere near out of the woods with iran and NK. I mean, if we're going to use this kind of logic, we might as well say that George H. Bush was wholly responsible for the collapse of the Soviet Union.

No, no, the credit goes to a million Afghanistan dead, killed fighting our proxy war with the USSR.
 

Thump553

Lifer
Jun 2, 2000
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Originally posted by: dphantom
Where's PETA when you need em? :)

PETA's statement regarding this brutal slaughter of an innocent fly:

According to TMZ, People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals had this to say about the whole thing: "He isn't the Buddha, he's a human being and human beings have a long way to go before they think before they act."

Source
 

feralkid

Lifer
Jan 28, 2002
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Originally posted by: Fear No Evil


I'm glad you see ME as the great evil in the world. Thats the typical left wing position of this forum. Republicans who disagree with your world view are EVIL.. and not just EVIL, the GREATEST threat the world faces. I guess demanding that we stand up for the people in Iran fighting for freedom makes me this GREATEST EVIL in the world. I guess demanding that NK release our journalists makes me this GREATEST EVIL in the world as well. Seems to fit the democrat position on freedom.



Too much ovaltine.

 

fskimospy

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Mar 10, 2006
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Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Originally posted by: techs
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
If only Bush had showed the same strength Obama has against NK, Iran, etc.
Fixed.

LOL.. riiight. NK is even more out of control under Obama.. Iran is fixing elections and threating to build Nukes under Obama.. Obama hasn't done a fucking thing to control these counties but hide in his corner hoping they go away. Meanwhile our journalists are being locked up in labor prisons in NK and Obama continues to do nothing.

Yeah because Iran NEVER had fixed elections in the past, and the North Koreans most certainly weren't busily detonating nuclear weapons under tough guy Bush.

Obama coming out strongly in support of one side in the Iranian election would be the height of stupidity. There is no faster way to have the anti-clerical movement crushed there than to have it strongly associated with the USA. I know all this amazingly in-depth geopolitical analysis is too much for Sean Hannity, but for anyone else who has had a poli sci 101 course it's pretty obvious.
 

fskimospy

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Mar 10, 2006
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Originally posted by: Genx87

Bush put that coalition of nations together years ago and was blasted for doing so. All the liberals told us we needed to go it alone and deal with the North Koreans directly. That Bush was being a terrible dipolmat trying to get the Chinese, Russians, SK, and Japan involved.

Now Obama does the same and it is pure genius?!?!?!?!?! kk

My ass.

Bush was criticized for pretending North Korea didn't exist, and refusing to conduct any diplomacy except through the six party talks, he was not criticized for having the six party talks.

Revisionist history much?
 

SunSamurai

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Whats this gotta do with killing flies? YOU ALL ARE JUST TRYING TO SWEEP THIS EVENT UNDER THE RUG
 

Carmen813

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Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Originally posted by: Atomic Playboy
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
And Iranian moderates are being slaughtered by the government.. and Obama says he doesn't want to meddle. True courage would be the CONDEMNING the actions by Iran. DEMANDING a fair election. And DEMANDING that human rights be observed in Iran and the will of the people be listened to. Or do you only care when we hold terrorists under water for a minute and not when people fighting for democracy are shot in the face by 'police'? While Obama is building a coalition.. innocent people fighting for democracy are DYING.

Obama is WEAK and is a COWARD for not coming out STRONGLY against this 'Faux Election' by the Iranians.

Hogwash; he kills flies with his bare hands.

All kidding aside, you come across as the biggest coward on these forums. You constantly advocate starting wars against other countries as though nuking the entire planet is somehow going to make us all safer. You can't stand to think that you may be asked to die for what America stands for, so you want us to become a ruthless dictatorship, at the helm of the world, destroying anyone who you feel poses a threat. You're an armchair general, Jack D. Ripper, sending your planes in to destroy the great evil of the world and never realizing that the greatest evil of the world is people like you.

Its quite ironic that the person named 'Atomic Playboy' is talking about nuking the planet. But, to get right down to it.. yes, nuking every other nation off the face of the planet WOULD make us safer. I don't recommend it, but it would achieve that.

I'm glad you see ME as the great evil in the world. Thats the typical left wing position of this forum. Republicans who disagree with your world view are EVIL.. and not just EVIL, the GREATEST threat the world faces. I guess demanding that we stand up for the people in Iran fighting for freedom makes me this GREATEST EVIL in the world. I guess demanding that NK release our journalists makes me this GREATEST EVIL in the world as well. Seems to fit the democrat position on freedom.

Wow, I think this post might be sig wothy. You've finally completely lost your mind.
 

TheNoblePlatypus

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Mindless conservative hackery aside, it's pretty pathetic this was even reported.


What's even worse is that news outlets actually contacted PETA about this to generate some sort of conflict. On PETA's site:

Believe it or not, we've actually been contacted by multiple media outlets wanting to know PETA's official response to the executive insect execution.



Unfortunately, being absolutely batshit crazy, they delivered the goods. They're sending Obama one of these.
 

yllus

Elite Member & Lifer
Aug 20, 2000
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That was pretty cool. :) Not newsworthy in a political way, but pretty amusing and worth a quick YouTube video.
 

OutHouse

Lifer
Jun 5, 2000
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this thread needs locked, total thread highjack. its about obama killing a fly and in typical P&N fashion you morons are comparing foreign policies between bush and obama.
 

Genx87

Lifer
Apr 8, 2002
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Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: Genx87

Bush put that coalition of nations together years ago and was blasted for doing so. All the liberals told us we needed to go it alone and deal with the North Koreans directly. That Bush was being a terrible dipolmat trying to get the Chinese, Russians, SK, and Japan involved.

Now Obama does the same and it is pure genius?!?!?!?!?! kk

My ass.

Bush was criticized for pretending North Korea didn't exist, and refusing to conduct any diplomacy except through the six party talks, he was not criticized for having the six party talks.

Revisionist history much?

Sounds like you agree with my history.

 

Fear No Evil

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What I find pathetic is the press clapping. They have such hard-ons for Obama they will get giddy over anything he does. I wonder if they all got that tingling feeling running up their leg after this.
 

ayabe

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Gotta love PETA, I bet Obama took a shower yesterday too, the millions of microbes that must have perished, oh teh humanity!!!11!
 

sportage

Lifer
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I know how he did it.
He imagined the fly body of McCain and the fly head of Hillary.
SMACK!!!
 

GroundedSailor

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Here's PETA's response to the flykiller:

PETA miffed at President Obama's fly "execution" :D

PETA miffed at President Obama's fly "execution"
Thu Jun 18, 2009 1:39pm EDT

POLITICO (Washington) - The president has been getting lots of kudos for a lightning-fast, Mr. Miyagi-worthy swipe he employed to slay a pesky house fly that was buzzing him in mid-interview during a taping with CNBC that aired Wednesday.

"He stopped the interview to track and kill the fly," said talk show host Conan O'Brien.

"That's some pretty impressive hand-eye coordination right there," Jimmy Fallon gushed. "Makes Obama look like a bad ass."

But now People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, calling it an "execution," wants the commander-in-chief to show a little more compassion to even "the least sympathetic animals."

"Believe it or not, we've actually been contacted by multiple media outlets wanting to know PETA's official response to the executive insect execution," a blog on the group's website explained. "In a nutshell, our position is this: He isn't the Buddha, he's a human being, and human beings have a long way to go before they think before they act."

The group has sent Obama a device that traps a fly so it can then be released outside.

"We believe that people, where they can be compassionate, should be, for all animals," PETA spokesman Bruce Freidrich explained.


The fly saga began Tuesday, and it was the subject of a news report on Italian TV and almost a dozen Youtube postings that have been viewed more than 750,000 times. Thousands of people also have added commentary, including one who wrote, "But can he duck a shoe?" in reference to a hugely popular video of former president George Bush ducking a shoe thrown at him by an Iraqi cameraman during a news conference in Baghdad.

"Get out of here," Obama said as the fly buzzed him during his interview. The pest persisted, and when it landed on his left forearm, Obama smacked it.

"Now, where were we?" the president said without missing a beat. Pleased with himself, he added, "That was pretty impressive, wasn't it? I got the sucker."

Several observers in the room gave congratulatory shout-outs. Obama pointed to the floor and instructed an obliging cameraman to get a close-up of the corpse.

"It's like he's got one of those fly Terminator targeting systems in his eyes," said an awed Jon Stewart.

So, is this Obama's first execution?



 

seemingly random

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Oct 10, 2007
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Even though I've bought women fur coats, I've always had some sympathy with peta. Some of it just got used up.

Mandatory bush jab:
If it had been bush he would have missed the fly, ended up hurting himself and the ss shooting the interviewer thinking he'd hurt poor georgie.