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Obama wins Wisconsin! :)

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Originally posted by: blackllotus
Obama and Hilary combined currently have more than double the votes of all of the republicans.

That's to be expected. Wisconsin is a Blue state, and getting out to vote for a Dem candidate is more important than on the Rep side. That's all sewn up by McCain.
 
Originally posted by: BarneyFife
Does Obama get all the delegates for Wisconsin?

Also, what about Texas and Ohio? How are those delegates given out.

No, it is proportional. As is Ohio. Texas is a different turkey, they have rather strange proportional district assignments of delegates, as well as a slew of 65 elected by caucus outside the standard delegation.
 
Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
Originally posted by: Pabster
Obama Takes Wisconsin For 9th Consecutive Victory

The writing is on the wall.

The most telling thing is the women's voting statistic. White women are her core constituency, and Obama beat her there.

I just can't wait to find out how this one is spun. It's not a caucus, it's not black voters, it is full of "working class" people, it's not a "red" state that can't possibly be won in November. There are no excuses left.
 
Originally posted by: yowolabi
I just can't wait to find out how this one is spun. It's not a caucus, it's not black voters, it is full of "working class" people, it's not a "red" state that can't possibly be won in November. There are no excuses left.

But...the plagiarism! Don't forget the plagiarism! :laugh:
 
Originally posted by: BarneyFife
Does Obama get all the delegates for Wisconsin?

Quoting another site

"Of the 74 delegates, 48 will be awarded by district and 26 to the at-large winner."
 
Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: yowolabi
I just can't wait to find out how this one is spun. It's not a caucus, it's not black voters, it is full of "working class" people, it's not a "red" state that can't possibly be won in November. There are no excuses left.

But...the plagiarism! Don't forget the plagiarism! :laugh:

Haha 😀
 
Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: NFS4
When Obama takes the nomination, I wonder if Bill and Hilary will just drop out of sight...
I doubt it. I think they'll both get on Obama's bandwagon and work to get him elected. Bill's got enough ego to want to remain on the world stage as a well liked ex-President, and Hillary would damage her future prospects if she's seen as doing anything else.
Don't count on that.

Did Hillary and Bill really work hard to get Kerry elected?
 
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: NFS4
When Obama takes the nomination, I wonder if Bill and Hilary will just drop out of sight...
I doubt it. I think they'll both get on Obama's bandwagon and work to get him elected. Bill's got enough ego to want to remain on the world stage as a well liked ex-President, and Hillary would damage her future prospects if she's seen as doing anything else.
Don't count on that.

Did Hillary and Bill really work hard to get Kerry elected?

I don't have to count on it. They've both got far more to lose by marginalizing themselves. If they don't it's not my problem. It's not Obama's or anyone else's, except their own, either.
 
Originally posted by: blackllotus
Obama and Hilary combined currently have more than double the votes of all of the republicans.


Sort of like Mike Dukakis back in the day. :Q I wonder if this election will turn out the same in November as it did in the 80's for Dukakis

 
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: NFS4
When Obama takes the nomination, I wonder if Bill and Hilary will just drop out of sight...
I doubt it. I think they'll both get on Obama's bandwagon and work to get him elected. Bill's got enough ego to want to remain on the world stage as a well liked ex-President, and Hillary would damage her future prospects if she's seen as doing anything else.
Don't count on that.

Did Hillary and Bill really work hard to get Kerry elected?

Bill Clinton held a rally with John Kerry in Philadelphia which drew like over 50,000 people late in October to help seal Pennsylvania for Kerry. This was right after his heart bypass surgery.
Perhaps, you can ask Michelle Obama who said she would have to think about it first if Hillary was the Democratic nominee.

Edit: Congrats to Obama. I hope whoever wins the nomination can defeat old man McCain.
 
Cripes, the numbers are still going up.

65% of the vote in and Obama 57% / Clinton 42%. 15 point lead, :Q
 
Thank god.. it will not be a stressful election year. I want Obama but if McCain gets elected I can check it off as maybe my judgment being wrong (I wanted GWB in 2000). Clinton absolutely had to be stopped.
 
It was a dramatic win for Obama. There's no underplaying it, no matter what the Clinton Machine and surrogates may try.

Obama won most of the key demographics and tied several others. He took 53% of the White vote. Now about Bradley... :laugh:

From Drudge:

**Wisconsin Exit Polls:**

Obama Won:

- Women (51-49)
- All age groups under 65
- All education levels
- All regions of the state -- urban, suburban and rural
- Voters without college degrees (50-48)
- Democrats (50-49)
- *****Whites (53-46) *****
- *****White men (59-38) *****
- Voters who decided in the last week (58-42)

AND...

Won or tied voters of all income levels
Tied among white women
Tied among union members
Tied among union households
 
Originally posted by: BarneyFife
YES WE CAN!

when my kids hear that , they start singing the Bob the Builder song, they think Obama is Obama the Builder

:music:
Can we fix it?
Yes we can!

(chorus)
Bob the builder
Can we fix it?
Bob the builder
Yes we can!
:music:

:laugh:
 
Did anyone else notice that...AGAIN...Hillary didn't even take a few seconds to Congratulate Obama on his victory? :roll:

Once again she runs out of town early and off to her next supposed "Firewall" ... :laugh:

The only question now is which drawer the concession of race speech sits in.
 
Originally posted by: chowderhead
I hope whoever wins the nomination can defeat old man McCain.

i think McCain is going to end up as Bob Dole II and get swamped, there is no reason as a Repub to be excited, a 78 year old white man isn't exciting
 
Obama is on a serious F'ing roll.

WI was supposed to be close, it wasn't even. Ohio is gonna fall the same I think. I don't even know if Billary will win TX.

The fat lady is warming up...will the clintons find a way to stick a knife in her back?
 
Originally posted by: Pabster
Did anyone else notice that...AGAIN...Hillary didn't even take a few seconds to Congratulate Obama on his victory? :roll:

Once again she runs out of town early and off to her next supposed "Firewall" ... :laugh:

The only question now is which drawer the concession of race speech sits in.

get over yourself Pabster - your candidate is the one of hope and turning the page and you just post page after page of attacks on Clinton. Listen to your candidate because he will need Clinton supporters to win in the fall. Obama didn't congratulate Clinton after her win in Nevada and how do you know she didn't when Obama cut into her speech.

Yes, she is down and she may not win but you are troll.

On to your favorite topic of race and the Bradley effect which you love to mention.
Here is the last poll in 1982 for Tom Bradley vs. George Deukmejian.
<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/latimes/access/666312002.html?dids=666312002:666312002
&FMT=ABS&FMTS=ABS:AI&date=Nov+01%2C+1982&author=CLAUDIA+LUTHER%3B+NANCY+SKELTON&pub=Los+Angeles+Times&desc=Bradley+Inches+Ahead%3B&pqatl=google">Bradley led 49% to 42%</a>

Bradley went on to lose 51% to 49%. He polled the exact number that he got in the polls. Deukmejian got "all the undecideds."

Doug Wilder, another "victim" of the Bradley effect.
The Mason Dixon Poll had him winning 48% to 44%. link
He polled exactly what he got.

 
MSNBC is reporting the Clinton campaign thinks negative campaigning worked in Wisconsin and will continue. She truly is McCain's temporary running mate.
 
Originally posted by: chowderhead
Originally posted by: Pabster
Did anyone else notice that...AGAIN...Hillary didn't even take a few seconds to Congratulate Obama on his victory? :roll:

Once again she runs out of town early and off to her next supposed "Firewall" ... :laugh:

The only question now is which drawer the concession of race speech sits in.

get over yourself Pabster - your candidate is the one of hope and turning the page and you just post page after page of attacks on Clinton. Listen to your candidate because he will need Clinton supporters to win in the fall. Obama didn't congratulate Clinton after her win in Nevada and how do you know she didn't when Obama cut into her speech.

Yes, she is down and she may not win but you are troll.

On to your favorite topic of race and the Bradley effect which you love to mention.
Here is the last poll in 1982 for Tom Bradley vs. George Deukmejian.
<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/latimes/access/666312002.html?dids=666312002:666312002
<b">&FMT=ABS&FMTS=ABS:AI&date=Nov+01%2C+1982&author=CLAUDIA+LUTHER%3B+NANCY+SKELTON&pub=Los+Angeles+Times&desc=Bradley+Inches+Ahead%3B&pqatl=google">Bradley led 49% to 42%</a>

Bradley went on to lose 51% to 49%. He polled the exact number that he got in the polls. Deukmejian got "all the undecideds."

Doug Wilder, another "victim" of the Bradley effect.
The Mason Dixon Poll had him winning 48% to 44%. link
He polled exactly what he got.


Sore Loser
 
lol I'm actually hoping Clinton wins my state tonight (Washington) just to see how her campaign spins this pointless race 😛 Will probably hold a victory rally
 
I think Donna Brazile just made a great point. She said something to the effect of "Hillary fired her campaign manager, she fired her deputy manager, now she needs to fire her speechwriter."

Before Hillary came out tonight they were making a big deal about her having a new speech and using a teleprompter. Then she came out and said the exact same thing she's been saying as she lost the last 9 contests. That crap clearly isn't working as Obama builds up bigger and bigger wins and keeps eating into her base. I could write one of her current speeches, and though I'm a damn good writer, I'm certainly not at the level where I could get paid for it.
 
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