Obama will announce Supreme Court pick @ 11am

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Subyman

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Mitch McConnell being a douche. Pretty sad to see. Funny how he takes Biden's advice now... If Biden's advice is so sacred to this debate, then Garland should be chosen ;)
 
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And Mitch McConnell is right now doubling down on the obstruction. It's about principle! The Biden rule!

If these assholes don't pay a price for this in Nov. then I'm out. There's no hope for government, or our democracy, actually functioning anymore.
 

fskimospy

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Also this is kind of awesome. He was a moderate last week but now I'm sure he's a liberal ideologue!

Orrin Hatch last week:
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/john-gizzi-orrin-hatch-obama-will-nominate/2016/03/13/id/718871/

"The President told me several times he&#8217;s going to name a moderate [to fill the court vacancy], but I don&#8217;t believe him," Hatch told us.

"[Obama] could easily name Merrick Garland, who is a fine man," he told us, referring to the more centrist chief judge of the U.S. Court of Appeals of the District of Columbia who was considered and passed over for the two previous high court vacancies.

But, Hatch quickly added, "He probably won&#8217;t do that because this appointment is about the election. So I&#8217;m pretty sure he&#8217;ll name someone the [liberal Democratic base] wants."

Now that he nominated the exact person Hatch suggested what do you think the odds are of our good friend Orrin supporting him? My guess is about zero. lol.
 

HomerJS

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A thought...

supposed another conservative justice dies. Obama could just say OK boyz now that its 4-3 you get your wish, no nominees. Think they would hold their position?
 

glenn1

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Flashback 2006...Obama votes to filibuster the confirmation vote for Alito. Karma is a bitch.

Agree that Obama and Democrats deserve to have this nomination filibustered if not outright Borked and it would be completely justified. However as a tactical decision it would be terrible since there's not really any better alternative outcome that would be immediately realizable should their efforts succeed. Why block one nomination when there's no realistic possibility the next will be an improvement? Pocket the concession that Obama didn't nominate a liberal firebrand and move on.
 

K1052

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Why block one nomination when there's no realistic possibility the next will be an improvement? Pocket the concession that Obama didn't nominate a liberal firebrand and move on.

Because they secretly want Hillary to appoint some young uber liberals to the court who will irrevocably set it's trajectory for a generation? :hmm:
 

fskimospy

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Flashback 2006...Obama votes to filibuster the confirmation vote for Alito. Karma is a bitch.

It's probably a really stupid idea to try and use someone who was confirmed by a bipartisan vote as a reason to subject someone else to a party line filibuster, hahaha.

It is amusing to watch you keep trying to come up with new reasons to justify the position you already wanted to take though. So far we have:

1. Even though Republicans have said on the record he's a moderate he's actually a secret liberal.
2. Obama voted against cloture for a previous nomination.

What else?
 

Jhhnn

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Hearings and votes should be held. I hated Harry Reid's permanent obstructionism and I'll give the Republicans no slack for it either.

The mental gymnastics required to believe that are amazing. Repubs introduced an endless stream of poison pill floor amendments to legislation while in the minority, insisted on full debate for each & every one of their doomed attempts. Reid got sick of their shit & pushed amendments down to the committee level so that the Senate could engage in productive work. You know, what they were elected to do.

Repubs have no constructive policy. They just make their livings saying no to Obama & the Democrats.
 

sontakke

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I am little surprised. The other guy was confirmed 97-0. It would have been more fun to watch them squirm if he had been nominated. There is some chess playing moves which I do not understand.
 
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Agree...the "moderate" label looks like complete bullshit. :cool:

I'm interested in your thoughts on this previous quote. Really I am interested in what you think its not meant to be a trap

Orin Hatch is stumbling over himself right now on the CBS stream trying to justify it. Especially after this:

Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-UT), the longest serving Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee, offered his own thoughts on who President Obama should nominate to fill the seat left open by the death of Justice Antonin Scalia last week. “[Obama] could easily name Merrick Garland, who is a fine man,” Hatch told the conservative news site Newsmax, before adding that “he probably won’t do that because this appointment is about the election. So I’m pretty sure he’ll name someone the [liberal Democratic base] wants.”
 

hal2kilo

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I'm interested in your thoughts on this previous quote. Really I am interested in what you think its not meant to be a trap

Will be something along the lines of Hatch is just a RINO establishment hack job.
 
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kage69

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Mitch McConnell being a douche. Pretty sad to see. Funny how he takes Biden's advice now... If Biden's advice is so sacred to this debate, then Garland should be chosen ;)

There's a shock!

Another attempt to invalidate Obama's legitimacy starts to buckle and fold under the weight of people being tired with GOP bullshit and Politics First.

GOP wants to continue looking like a bunch of petulant, corrupt fuckwads before Obama leaves office. I think Obama is OK with that.
 
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Agree that Obama and Democrats deserve to have this nomination filibustered if not outright Borked and it would be completely justified. However as a tactical decision it would be terrible since there's not really any better alternative outcome that would be immediately realizable should their efforts succeed. Why block one nomination when there's no realistic possibility the next will be an improvement? Pocket the concession that Obama didn't nominate a liberal firebrand and move on.
I agree 100%.
 

glenn1

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Because they secretly want Hillary to appoint some young uber liberals to the court who will irrevocably set it's trajectory for a generation? :hmm:

I have no idea. The potential "Souter Factor" (consistently going against the policy preferences of the party who appointed him) for this guy seems higher than anyone a Democratic President has nominated in some time.