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jonks

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Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Lemon law
Somehow if Jesus Christ came to back to earth, I somewhat suspect he would be more groosed out over the views of CadsortaGuy than the views of Obama.

Oh really?

I love how libs try to suggest Jesus would embrace liberalism were he to be here in body. You people are a riot!

I suspect Jesus would say things like STOP aborting children, STOP taking drugs, STOP borrowing more than you make, etc. I also think he would point to conservatives and say stop doing a lot of things as well. I think we would all be in a world of hurt.

Lol, jesus didn't have much to say on abortion, and the dude turned water INTO drugs for hissake. Speculating as to what god wants is the main problem with religion. You think you know but you have no idea, yet you continue telling people what they should do and not do based on what you think god wants when you admit he is unknowable.
 

WHAMPOM

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Jesus Missing From Obama's Georgetown Speech


Remember all the teeth gnashing just a couple years ago over Ashcroft covering a statue? I wonder how those same people will look at this incident...

Anyway, I don't much care that they "generic" things for speeches, but come on now - you knew where you were going so if you don't like the background - speak somewhere else or get taller pipes and curtains...or just don't have it somewhere that has symbols that offend you or you don't want photographed with.

CAD when you find more evidence of an impeachable Presidential offence written on a stall wall with feces, forget to bring it to our attention.
 

Fear No Evil

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Originally posted by: jonks
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Lemon law
Somehow if Jesus Christ came to back to earth, I somewhat suspect he would be more groosed out over the views of CadsortaGuy than the views of Obama.

Oh really?

I love how libs try to suggest Jesus would embrace liberalism were he to be here in body. You people are a riot!

I suspect Jesus would say things like STOP aborting children, STOP taking drugs, STOP borrowing more than you make, etc. I also think he would point to conservatives and say stop doing a lot of things as well. I think we would all be in a world of hurt.

Lol, jesus didn't have much to say on abortion, and the dude turned water INTO drugs for hissake. Speculating as to what god wants is the main problem with religion. You think you know but you have no idea, yet you continue telling people what they should do and not do based on what you think god wants when you admit he is unknowable.

Not a lot of abortions in in the year 40 I would suspect. Also, yes.. I do seem to remember Jesus turning water into lines of cocaine and some weed... totally forgot about that I apologize.
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: WHAMPOM
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Jesus Missing From Obama's Georgetown Speech


Remember all the teeth gnashing just a couple years ago over Ashcroft covering a statue? I wonder how those same people will look at this incident...

Anyway, I don't much care that they "generic" things for speeches, but come on now - you knew where you were going so if you don't like the background - speak somewhere else or get taller pipes and curtains...or just don't have it somewhere that has symbols that offend you or you don't want photographed with.

CAD when you find more evidence of an impeachable Presidential offence written on a stall wall with feces, forget to bring it to our attention.

Where did I even suggest this was impeachable? I just thought it was hilarious considering how you leftists were all up in arms over Ashcroft covering a statue.

BTW, this attempt by you on the left to claim everything is small and doesn't matter isn't going to work. First off - you are placing more importance on it than the people pointing it out. Second it's already a tired defense since you've used it for everything related to him.
 

JEDIYoda

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Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
I wonder if Obama would ask a Muslim country to do the same thing while visiting and giving a speech? I seriously doubt it. Can Obama be any more of a douchebag here? You get invited to speak at a Catholic University and you ask them to cover up the very things the University was founded on? Giving a speech has nothing to do with separation of church and state.. this is nothing but an arrogant and bigoted move by Obama. If he has such a problem with it he shouldn't have spoken there at all.

Apologize to the Muslims and make Catholics cover up their religious symbols. Nice 'change' Mr. President.

hahahah your a joke dude...we quit listening to your dribble a while back when it became obvious no matter what Obama does short of committing suicide you are going to be against.....so why don`t you check in early at your Mental Hospital!

How is my attitude any different than yours which is to swoon over everything Obama does not matter how damaging to the country it is?

The problem with you is simple......nothing Obama can do would be right in your eyes.
Doesn`t matter what Obama or any other person who was elected POTUS and a democrat did you would be totally against everything!

I and other who voted for Obama do see things we don`t like and things we like.
You on the other hand do not like anything Obama has done.

So Yes your attitude is pretty screwed up!!

The differrence between your attitude and mine is I would still supoort the president if he was a Republican. Doesn`t mean I would hate everything he does like you do Obama....even Bush did some positve things......the problem with Bush was the stoopid things terribly out weighed anything positive that he did!!

Did I say your attitude was that of a Jr High Schooler aged kid who is throwing a tantrum because a Democrat is in office??
 

microbial

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Well now I'm really pissed with the WH.

This issue is going to provoke another Glenda Beck nervous breakdown hissy-fit. I can hear the waterworks turning on already.
 

jonks

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Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Originally posted by: jonks
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
I suspect Jesus would say things like STOP aborting children, STOP taking drugs, STOP borrowing more than you make, etc. I also think he would point to conservatives and say stop doing a lot of things as well. I think we would all be in a world of hurt.

Lol, jesus didn't have much to say on abortion, and the dude turned water INTO drugs for hissake. Speculating as to what god wants is the main problem with religion. You think you know but you have no idea, yet you continue telling people what they should do and not do based on what you think god wants when you admit he is unknowable.

Not a lot of abortions in in the year 40 I would suspect. Also, yes.. I do seem to remember Jesus turning water into lines of cocaine and some weed... totally forgot about that I apologize.

Why would you suspect that? Women have been inducing abortions for thousands of years when they knew they couldn't care for another child. It was seen as a necessary evil, same as it is now.

And alcohol isn't a drug according to you? Or do you think Jesus is going to consult modern US law when deciding what drugs are good, and which are bad, mmmkay? You're a funny guy.
 

aphex

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Wow, the wingnuts really have run out of things to complain about, haven't they?
 

jackschmittusa

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Sorry CAD, you lose on this one. There is no comparison between this event and Ashcroft.

Ashcroft spent thousands of taxpayers' dollars to cover up a work of art that no one seemed to have a problem with. It was generally viewed as asinine and made him look like a fool.

Obama's staff made a request simple request for a virtually no cost, temporary arrangement that would prevent any existing symbols from being construed as having some special meaning in relation to Obama's presentation.

On the other hand, I can see many reasons why Ashcroft might not want the classic symbol of justice to be associated with his department.

You're a smart guy CAD, but you demean yourself presenting such BS as this.
 

Fear No Evil

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Originally posted by: jonks
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Originally posted by: jonks
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
I suspect Jesus would say things like STOP aborting children, STOP taking drugs, STOP borrowing more than you make, etc. I also think he would point to conservatives and say stop doing a lot of things as well. I think we would all be in a world of hurt.

Lol, jesus didn't have much to say on abortion, and the dude turned water INTO drugs for hissake. Speculating as to what god wants is the main problem with religion. You think you know but you have no idea, yet you continue telling people what they should do and not do based on what you think god wants when you admit he is unknowable.

Not a lot of abortions in in the year 40 I would suspect. Also, yes.. I do seem to remember Jesus turning water into lines of cocaine and some weed... totally forgot about that I apologize.

Why would you suspect that? Women have been inducing abortions for thousands of years when they knew they couldn't care for another child. It was seen as a necessary evil, same as it is now.

And alcohol isn't a drug only in your ignorant little mind. Or were you absent the day they taught us that in grade school? Ah, home schooled, amirite?


My guess is they weren't doing it because it was just inconvenient to have another child. Wine is generally not referred to as a DRUG.. its referred to as an alcohol. We can argue words if you want. Fact is, I bet Jesus would be saying a ton of things we are doing is WRONG.. especially our 3.5 billion dollar debt. Jesus DID speak a lot about not being in debt.

Either way, Obama is still a douchebag for doing this.
 

fskimospy

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Did anyone actually read this story? It has nothing to do with Ashcroft's covering of the statues. The White House asked for ALL identifying and distracting things behind where the president was speaking to be covered. This included all the signs for the university, everything. This wasn't a case of Obama covering up Jesus because he wanted to cover up something religious. Ashcroft asked the nude statues to be permanently covered up for modesty reasons, Obama covered up one jesus-y themed seal (out of more than 2 dozen in there) to limit distractions behind the speaker.

This is retarded.
 

tfcmasta97

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Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
I wonder if Obama would ask a Muslim country to do the same thing while visiting and giving a speech? I seriously doubt it. Can Obama be any more of a douchebag here? You get invited to speak at a Catholic University and you ask them to cover up the very things the University was founded on? Giving a speech has nothing to do with separation of church and state.. this is nothing but an arrogant and bigoted move by Obama. If he has such a problem with it he shouldn't have spoken there at all.

Apologize to the Muslims and make Catholics cover up their religious symbols. Nice 'change' Mr. President.

Im just guessin that this is the same cockmongler who would be spittin out republicum ZOMG KOOLAID MESSIAH if it wasnt covered, LULZ OBAMA THINKS HES JESUS along with the rest of the retards
 

jonks

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Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Originally posted by: jonks
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Not a lot of abortions in in the year 40 I would suspect. Also, yes.. I do seem to remember Jesus turning water into lines of cocaine and some weed... totally forgot about that I apologize.

Why would you suspect that? Women have been inducing abortions for thousands of years when they knew they couldn't care for another child. It was seen as a necessary evil, same as it is now.

And alcohol isn't a drug only in your ignorant little mind. Or were you absent the day they taught us that in grade school? Ah, home schooled, amirite?


My guess is they weren't doing it because it was just inconvenient to have another child. Wine is generally not referred to as a DRUG.. its referred to as an alcohol. We can argue words if you want. Fact is, I bet Jesus would be saying a ton of things we are doing is WRONG.. especially our 3.5 billion dollar debt. Jesus DID speak a lot about not being in debt.

Either way, Obama is still a douchebag for doing this.

So you've moved your position from "I suspect there weren't a lot of abortions" to alluding to reasons why there were in fact a lot of abortions, but can't actually come up with what those reasons are.

You've reached the astounding conclusion that alcohol is not a drug :confused:

And Jesus was more concerned about the evils of accumulating wealth and material goods than he was with debt. "It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God." Makes you wonder at all the complaining about how the rich are unfairly taxed. If you wanted gods work to be done you'd tax them way more.

You truly are a caricature of a human, and I mean that sincerely.
 

Turin39789

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Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Originally posted by: jonks
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Originally posted by: jonks
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
I suspect Jesus would say things like STOP aborting children, STOP taking drugs, STOP borrowing more than you make, etc. I also think he would point to conservatives and say stop doing a lot of things as well. I think we would all be in a world of hurt.

Lol, jesus didn't have much to say on abortion, and the dude turned water INTO drugs for hissake. Speculating as to what god wants is the main problem with religion. You think you know but you have no idea, yet you continue telling people what they should do and not do based on what you think god wants when you admit he is unknowable.

Not a lot of abortions in in the year 40 I would suspect. Also, yes.. I do seem to remember Jesus turning water into lines of cocaine and some weed... totally forgot about that I apologize.

Why would you suspect that? Women have been inducing abortions for thousands of years when they knew they couldn't care for another child. It was seen as a necessary evil, same as it is now.

And alcohol isn't a drug only in your ignorant little mind. Or were you absent the day they taught us that in grade school? Ah, home schooled, amirite?


My guess is they weren't doing it because it was just inconvenient to have another child. Wine is generally not referred to as a DRUG.. its referred to as an alcohol. We can argue words if you want. Fact is, I bet Jesus would be saying a ton of things we are doing is WRONG.. especially our 3.5 billion dollar debt. Jesus DID speak a lot about not being in debt.

Either way, Obama is still a douchebag for doing this.

Alcohol is a drug

Abortion is as old as the oldest profession, and probably older. It happened in the US plenty back when it was illegal, you just had more women dying in ER's after doing it at home.
 

JSFLY

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Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Obama did not speak of Jesus! This is blasphemy! This is madness!

Madness?

No.

THIS

IS


SPARTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Kicks Fearnoevil down a well]
 

JACKDRUID

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Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
I wonder if Obama would ask a Muslim country to do the same thing while visiting and giving a speech? I seriously doubt it. Can Obama be any more of a douchebag here? You get invited to speak at a Catholic University and you ask them to cover up the very things the University was founded on? Giving a speech has nothing to do with separation of church and state.. this is nothing but an arrogant and bigoted move by Obama. If he has such a problem with it he shouldn't have spoken there at all.

Apologize to the Muslims and make Catholics cover up their religious symbols. Nice 'change' Mr. President.

hahahah your a joke dude...we quit listening to your dribble a while back when it became obvious no matter what Obama does short of committing suicide you are going to be against.....so why don`t you check in early at your Mental Hospital!

How is my attitude any different than yours which is to swoon over everything Obama does not matter how damaging to the country it is?

Time for your medicine. lights out.
 

Tab3076

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Tab3076
What was the Ashcroft thing?

He was holding a presser at the justice dept and had his staff cover up a statue of a lady justice that had a bare breast. The libs here when ape over it.

They were? Anyway, I would think that'd have to be censored for public TV. I suppose they did this instead of a big black dot or what not on the screen.
 

Fear No Evil

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Originally posted by: jonks
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Originally posted by: jonks
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Not a lot of abortions in in the year 40 I would suspect. Also, yes.. I do seem to remember Jesus turning water into lines of cocaine and some weed... totally forgot about that I apologize.

Why would you suspect that? Women have been inducing abortions for thousands of years when they knew they couldn't care for another child. It was seen as a necessary evil, same as it is now.

And alcohol isn't a drug only in your ignorant little mind. Or were you absent the day they taught us that in grade school? Ah, home schooled, amirite?


My guess is they weren't doing it because it was just inconvenient to have another child. Wine is generally not referred to as a DRUG.. its referred to as an alcohol. We can argue words if you want. Fact is, I bet Jesus would be saying a ton of things we are doing is WRONG.. especially our 3.5 billion dollar debt. Jesus DID speak a lot about not being in debt.

Either way, Obama is still a douchebag for doing this.

So you've moved your position from "I suspect there weren't a lot of abortions" to alluding to reasons why there were in fact a lot of abortions, but can't actually come up with what those reasons are.

You've reached the astounding conclusion that alcohol is not a drug :confused:

And Jesus was more concerned about the evils of accumulating wealth and material goods than he was with debt. "It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God." Makes you wonder at all the complaining about how the rich are unfairly taxed. If you wanted gods work to be done you'd tax them way more.

You truly are a caricature of a human, and I mean that sincerely.

Actually I think Jesus would strike down Obama for trying to impersonate him. He would smite him. Then he would go on to all the ATPN libs.. who would all be too stoned to really notice anyway.. then he would probably kill all the Jews.

You guys take this stuff too seriously. But Obama is still an arrogant douchebag.
 

Fear No Evil

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Originally posted by: Tab3076
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Tab3076
What was the Ashcroft thing?

He was holding a presser at the justice dept and had his staff cover up a statue of a lady justice that had a bare breast. The libs here when ape over it.

They were? Anyway, I would think that'd have to be censored for public TV. I suppose they did this instead of a big black dot or what not on the screen.

Maybe Obama could have just put his teleprompters in front of all the Jesus statues?
 

fskimospy

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Tab3076
What was the Ashcroft thing?

He was holding a presser at the justice dept and had his staff cover up a statue of a lady justice that had a bare breast. The libs here when ape over it.

He didn't cover them up for a press conference, he covered them up for his entire tenure as attorney general.
 

fskimospy

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Originally posted by: Tab3076
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Tab3076
What was the Ashcroft thing?

He was holding a presser at the justice dept and had his staff cover up a statue of a lady justice that had a bare breast. The libs here when ape over it.

They were? Anyway, I would think that'd have to be censored for public TV. I suppose they did this instead of a big black dot or what not on the screen.

No, statues like that aren't censored on TV.
 

trooper11

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as much as I dont agree with this being any issue at all, those you arguing agasint this should realize that this kind of irrational reaction to small moments has been going on for years and becuase one side does it, the other side is going to do it as well.

the problem is, those people on either side that do this sort of thing will never stop becuase the other side never stops.

all i know is that personally, im not going to lose sight on the really important issues and maybe set an example for the other side lol