Obama was wrong, you can do it all on your own.

[CanOWorms]

Hold on...

Does this mean I can send my son over to the US for a free collage education when he's the right age?

He's learning Spanish now if that helps.

No. The requirements include being brought to the US as a child and meeting in-state eligibility requirements.

It's for people who are Americans in everything but the passport.

 

[WelshBloke]

No. The requirements include being brought to the US as a child and meeting in-state eligibility requirements.

It's for people who are Americans in everything but the passport.

When's the cut off for being a child?

I can bring him over for a few months before his course starts. I'll have to see if I can claim anything then though. Would that be a problem?

 

[5150Joker]

When's the cut off for being a child?

I can bring him over for a few months before his course starts. I'll have to see if I can claim anything then though. Would that be a problem?

Are you a Mexican peasant? If not, then no. California should be given back to the Mexicans since its hopeless at this point. Then put up a huge wall and landmines to protect the border with predator drones flying above...if they cross, they get bombed.

If Obama can do this to random Afghan and Pakistani families, he should have no problem doing it to illegals.

 

[Angry Irishman]

I'd rather give money to these courageous young adults than some tea party crazy. At least these people want to be American and want to be a part of our government rather than dismantling it.

They might not have American citizenship, but they're Americans.

Well actually no they are NOT Americans. They ARE Mexicans, and various other citizens of other countries that happen to be on American soil illegally....it's really just that simple.

 

[WelshBloke]

Are you a Mexican peasant? If not, then no. California should be given back to the Mexicans since its hopeless at this point. Then put up a huge wall and landmines to protect the border with predator drones flying above...if they cross, they get bombed.

If Obama can do this to random Afghan and Pakistani families, he should have no problem doing it to illegals.

Wait... I have to be Mexican? That seems unfair. Is that written down anywhere?
What about other south American citizens? I might be able to swing some Y Wladfa connections.

 

[Svnla]

When's the cut off for being a child?

I can bring him over for a few months before his course starts. I'll have to see if I can claim anything then though. Would that be a problem?

Must have entered the US ILLEGALLY before 16.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

I'd rather give money to these courageous young adults than some tea party crazy. At least these people want to be American and want to be a part of our government rather than dismantling it.

They might not have American citizenship, but they're Americans.

Actually I've read of at least one large scale study that showed the VAST majority of current illegal immigrants identify with their home country.

This is contrary to how things have been in the past.... Years ago, when an irish/whatever person moved to the US they became an American.

Nowadays when an immigrant moves to the US they still claim the flag of their "home" country, and send most of their money back home.




I say boot them all out. Yes, the 1-2% of "good" immigrants are punished. But that's the fault of the 99% of their brethren who are nothing other than leeches of our society.


There was a point where we could afford to float these people, but no longer.

 

[badb0y]

Most kids under 16 don't really choose to come here, they just get dragged along with their parents but still I think this program is a bit too generous.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

Most kids under 16 don't really choose to come here, they just get dragged along with their parents but still I think this program is a bit too generous.

Then send them back. They would already be better off than if their parents hadn't brought them here in the first place.

 

[Spungo]

My biggest problem with this is that these people are typically terrible students. In my experience at a California State University was that only about 10% of them could read or speak at even a high-school level.

Very true. One of my fellow engineering students was a guy from China who already had a PhD in engineering. He failed due to simple communication problems. He has the brains for it, and he is extremely good at math, but language barriers make it difficult to understand what a question is asking.

 

[ultimatebob]

But won't the eVerify system keep them from getting jobs anyway?

:hmm:

Oh I got it. After the taxpayer spends money educating them the next logical conclusion is to then let them work without documentation :awe:

Either that, or send them back to Mexico with a US taxpayer funded education and let them prosper there instead.

That option doesn't sound much better.

 

[JockoJohnson]

So after these undocumented students get their degree, how do they get a job if they are still illegal?

http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/05/opinion/navarrette-sergio-garcia/?hpt=ju_mid

This guy got his law degree in CA and can't practice there...or probably anywhere in the US.

 

[Svnla]

So after these undocumented students get their degree, how do they get a job if they are still illegal?

http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/05/opinion/navarrette-sergio-garcia/?hpt=ju_mid

This guy got his law degree in CA and can't practice there...or probably anywhere in the US.

Nice link. From the article:

How is Garcia supposed to uphold "the laws of the United States" when he is, by his mere presence in this country, in violation of federal law?

How does he pledge to show respect for "the courts of justice" when, for most of his life, he has lived here in defiance of the rule of law? And how can he claim that he won't "mislead" a judge or judicial officer when living in the United States illegally requires deception on a daily basis?

If Garcia had more respect for the profession that he is seeking to join, he might have second thoughts about whether he is eligible to join it. Yet, he seems to feel entitled to a law license and everything that comes with it.

To the countless ILLEGALS (and their ignorant supporters) that scream "where is my American Dream", why don't you ask the million and million of LEGALS that are waiting for years and years to get in the US the LEGAL way? Where are theirs? Why should they wait and wait while you laugh and cut ahead of the long line? American Dream is about truth, justice, and fairness. Do your ILLEGAL activities represent the American Dream or Nightmare?

 

[SpatiallyAware]

So after these undocumented students get their degree, how do they get a job if they are still illegal?

http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/05/opinion/navarrette-sergio-garcia/?hpt=ju_mid

This guy got his law degree in CA and can't practice there...or probably anywhere in the US.

Oh it's easy, you pitch to the modern progressive movement that they can drastically increase their voter base by trying to direct policy to benefit these illegals.


Then, just like typical little lapdogs, all of the blind followers jump on the obama train to make it legal for them to work.



My bet.... Is over the next few years things will be to where once you've shown 2-3 years of schooling you will be able to apply for citizenship. "For the greater good"

 

[nehalem256]

So after these undocumented students get their degree, how do they get a job if they are still illegal?

http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/05/opinion/navarrette-sergio-garcia/?hpt=ju_mid

This guy got his law degree in CA and can't practice there...or probably anywhere in the US.

Better article:
http://news.yahoo.com/immigrant-fights-become-california-lawyer-081031894.html

In the meantime, he has supported himself as a motivational speaker and paralegal when he can find the work

So I guess it is not just NC that doesn't use E-verify :awe:

Also:

He said he doesn't fear deportation because of the notoriety his case has received — and the fact that he has notified immigration officials of his prolonged presence in the U.S.

Say what?

 

[JockoJohnson]

Phew, for a second there, I thought that the Intellectuals that put this school policy in place for the illegals might not have thought things through all the way. Where are the usual suspects that stick up for everything democrat/liberal/progressive? Where is their explanation of this system put in place by them?

Like others have stated, it all boils down to buying their vote for down the road after they ram through amnesty. They are making a situation where all of these educated illegals can't get a job. So naturally, we must give them jobs because we wouldn't want them to leave the US and not pay back their student loans. But hey, I am just a mouth-breather. I should leave the more edumacated decisions up to those that are much more intelligenter than me.

 

[CanOWorms]

Actually I've read of at least one large scale study that showed the VAST majority of current illegal immigrants identify with their home country.

This is contrary to how things have been in the past.... Years ago, when an irish/whatever person moved to the US they became an American.

Nowadays when an immigrant moves to the US they still claim the flag of their "home" country, and send most of their money back home.

I disagree. I've noticed multi-generational European-Americans still have an intense affinity to the lands of their ancestors or Europe in general, much more than even children of recent immigrants from non-European lands. In fact, a lot of culture, media, and politics are heavily slanted towards a European bias. It's very concerning.

I say boot them all out. Yes, the 1-2% of "good" immigrants are punished. But that's the fault of the 99% of their brethren who are nothing other than leeches of our society.


There was a point where we could afford to float these people, but no longer.

What about booting out legal Americans who are only American in passport? Can we even afford to keep them here? What about those Tea Party people who actively plan the dismantling of the US government? We certainly cannot afford to have them around

 

[Zaap]

I can bring him over for a few months before his course starts.

Just be sure to have al those documents that prove you've been illegally in the country long enough....


Oh wait.

Undocumented....


Yeah. Nobody's checking. That would be racist.

 

[dphantom]

People who go to college, get better jobs buy houses and cars, and grow the economy.

Not to mention they discover new drugs that save lives, invent new products that create new industries, etc, etc.

Restricting the lives of people who live here only accomplishes one thing, restricts the growth and prosperity we otherwise all benefit from.

They are here illegally. In small words, they are breaking a law.

 

[JockoJohnson]

What about booting out legal Americans who are only American in passport? Can we even afford to keep them here? What about those Tea Party people who actively plan the dismantling of the US government? We certainly cannot afford to have them around

Duhverzuhn

 

[Tom]

"these people"

Jesus wept.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

"these people"

Jesus wept.

Oh please, jesus told them to get a fscking job and stop leeching off of everyone else.

 

[jhbball]

Oh please, jesus told them to get a fscking job and stop leeching off of everyone else.

Yeah, I'm pretty certain that's in the bible.

 

[Zaap]

Oh great, back to that *incredibly effective* leftwing tactic of getting up on a soapbox and bible-thumping how we must go along with leftist lunacy in order to be "following Jesus".

Because, you know, separation of church and state is just for things like screaming like stuck pigs over nativity scenes, but to be tossed straight out the window when it comes to pushing leftist claptrap.

There is just no end to leftwinger hypocrisy.

 

[child of wonder]

What obstacle, exactly, is there to these "undocumented" students becoming citizens so they can legally receive assistance?