Obama Victory Bash Owes City $1.74 million

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http://www.suntimes.com/news/p...ST-NWS-rally20.article

Chicago has yet to recoup the $1.74 million cost of President Obama's victory celebration in Grant Park -- despite a burgeoning $50.5 million budget shortfall that threatens more layoffs and union concessions.

"The Democratic National Committee has not yet paid us,'' Peter Scales, a spokesman for the city's Office of Budget and Management, said Thursday after questions from the Chicago Sun-Times. "We're reaching out to them this week."


The bill for Barack Obama's election night rally at Grant Park
Police $1 million
Emergency Management and Communications Office $121,578
Fire Department $85,965
Streets and Sanitation $71,694
Transportation $49,659
Cultural Affairs $2,567
Environment $2,309
CTA $201,500
Chicago Park District $202,440
(Park District breakdown):
Giant video boards $68,900
Electrical $37,185
Sound $37,500
Stagehands $29,850
Portable toilets $12,500
Security $7,505
Stage rental $6,000
Bike racks, barricades $2,000
Heavy equipment $1,000
Total bill $1,737,712


Stacie Paxton, a spokeswoman for the Obama-controlled DNC, explained the reimbursement delay by saying, "We are still looking at various costs and bills.'' She would not say whether parts of the bill are disputed.

The city spent $1 million on police protection for the rally. The Office of Emergency Management and Communications racked up more than $120,000 in expenses, including $19,500 paid to police official Neil Sullivan to quarterback election night logistics.

In late October, Mayor Daley assured that the cash-flush Obama campaign would reimburse the city for every penny spent on the rally. "We have a financial crisis," he said at the time. "The City of Chicago could not afford $2 million on this because we're gonna be laying off people, cutting back. That [cost] would really be unfortunate. . . . It's a huge cost to the City of Chicago.

"This is not a presidential visit. . . . This is a political event, and they've agreed to pay for all those services -- all the expenses of that. ... It's costly, but they raised quite a bit of money. There's no [shortage] of money in that campaign."

The day after the Nov. 4 election, Daley was asked again whether the Obama campaign would pay up.

"Yeah. I don't know why you're so negative. ... What is this? He just won for president, and you say, 'He's not gonna pay his bills,' " the mayor said then.

On Dec. 9, the day the Sun-Times disclosed the $1.74 million tab, Obama spokesman Ben LaBolt referred questions to the DNC.

Paxton confirmed then that the rally was a "DNC-sponsored event" and that the party was discussing the itemized bill with the city.



Straight out of the Tim Geithner school of finance, where compensating cities is optional.

Of course, we needed that stimulus pork package so badly so cities could have money, right? Change has come to Washington!
 

daveymark

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Is Stacey Paxton even qualified for her position? Does anyone have access to her tax records?
 

Lanyap

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Originally posted by: daveymark
Does anyone have access to her tax records?

No, but I'm sure we can find someone that can look her up in the government computer systems.

 

Sinsear

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Well it seems these days the popular trend is to not pay your bills. And it looks like Obama is leading by example.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Sinsear
Well it seems these days the popular trend is to not pay your bills. And it looks like Obama is leading by example.
No it doesn't
 

spacejamz

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Sinsear
Well it seems these days the popular trend is to not pay your bills. And it looks like Obama is leading by example.
No it doesn't

uh...aren't we bailing out people who didn't pay their obligations???
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: spacejamz
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Sinsear
Well it seems these days the popular trend is to not pay your bills. And it looks like Obama is leading by example.
No it doesn't

uh...aren't we bailing out people who didn't pay their obligations???
We're helping them meet the obligations but they still have to pay. Besides Sinear meant by his comment that Obama was personally not paying the bill for the celebration when in fact it's not his obligation. Also this amount due isn't being defaulted on, it's being examined by the DNC to make sure it's correct and then it will be paid. The DNC has the money and has no intentions of not paying it.

 

Budmantom

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: spacejamz
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Sinsear
Well it seems these days the popular trend is to not pay your bills. And it looks like Obama is leading by example.
No it doesn't

uh...aren't we bailing out people who didn't pay their obligations???
We're helping them meet the obligations but they still have to pay. Besides Sinear meant by his comment that Obama was personally not paying the bill for the celebration when in fact it's not his obligation. Also this amount due isn't being defaulted on, it's being examined by the DNC to make sure it's correct and then it will be paid. The DNC has the money and has no intentions of not paying it.

Helping = bailing them out

They lead by example by paying bills..... like taxes.

 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Budmantom
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: spacejamz
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Sinsear
Well it seems these days the popular trend is to not pay your bills. And it looks like Obama is leading by example.
No it doesn't

uh...aren't we bailing out people who didn't pay their obligations???
We're helping them meet the obligations but they still have to pay. Besides Sinear meant by his comment that Obama was personally not paying the bill for the celebration when in fact it's not his obligation. Also this amount due isn't being defaulted on, it's being examined by the DNC to make sure it's correct and then it will be paid. The DNC has the money and has no intentions of not paying it.

Helping = bailing them out

They lead by example by paying bills..... like taxes.
And which one of them still owes taxes?

 

Thump553

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Kind of odd that all the numbers are itemized, except for police which is a round million-and more than half the total "billing." I'm sure the OP would pay such a vague billing promptly if it was presented to him, without any sort of audit or review.

Yet another baseless whinning.
 

winnar111

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Originally posted by: Thump553
Kind of odd that all the numbers are itemized, except for police which is a round million-and more than half the total "billing." I'm sure the OP would pay such a vague billing promptly if it was presented to him, without any sort of audit or review.

Yet another baseless whinning.

Aren't the Dems whining about how cities need cash?
 

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Sinsear
Well it seems these days the popular trend is to not pay your bills. And it looks like Obama is leading by example.
No it doesn't

So the DNC did in fact pay the bills and this article is nothing but lies?? Is that your position?
 

Turin39789

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Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Sinsear
Well it seems these days the popular trend is to not pay your bills. And it looks like Obama is leading by example.
No it doesn't

So the DNC did in fact pay the bills and this article is nothing but lies?? Is that your position?

I believe his assertion was

Also this amount due isn't being defaulted on, it's being examined by the DNC to make sure it's correct and then it will be paid. The DNC has the money and has no intentions of not paying it.

In case you had trouble reading it.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Sinsear
Well it seems these days the popular trend is to not pay your bills. And it looks like Obama is leading by example.
No it doesn't

So the DNC did in fact pay the bills and this article is nothing but lies?? Is that your position?

My position is that Obama isn't the DNC and doesn't owe any money to the city of Chicago so Sinear's claim is total bullshit.
 

Specop 007

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Sinsear
Well it seems these days the popular trend is to not pay your bills. And it looks like Obama is leading by example.
No it doesn't

So the DNC did in fact pay the bills and this article is nothing but lies?? Is that your position?

My position is that Obama isn't the DNC and doesn't owe any money to the city of Chicago so Sinear's claim is total bullshit.

Ok
 

Sinsear

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Sinsear
Well it seems these days the popular trend is to not pay your bills. And it looks like Obama is leading by example.
No it doesn't

So the DNC did in fact pay the bills and this article is nothing but lies?? Is that your position?

My position is that Obama isn't the DNC and doesn't owe any money to the city of Chicago so Sinear's claim is total bullshit.

If this was 5 years ago and it was the RNC, we would be hearing about Bush, and traitors, and profiteers. Tough shit; 0bama is the head Dem now so it leads back to him.
 

Turin39789

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Originally posted by: Sinsear
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Sinsear
Well it seems these days the popular trend is to not pay your bills. And it looks like Obama is leading by example.
No it doesn't

So the DNC did in fact pay the bills and this article is nothing but lies?? Is that your position?

My position is that Obama isn't the DNC and doesn't owe any money to the city of Chicago so Sinear's claim is total bullshit.

If this was 5 years ago and it was the RNC, we would be hearing about Bush, and traitors, and profiteers. Tough shit; 0bama is the head Dem now so it leads back to him.

No
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Sinsear
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Sinsear
Well it seems these days the popular trend is to not pay your bills. And it looks like Obama is leading by example.
No it doesn't

So the DNC did in fact pay the bills and this article is nothing but lies?? Is that your position?

My position is that Obama isn't the DNC and doesn't owe any money to the city of Chicago so Sinear's claim is total bullshit.

If this was 5 years ago and it was the RNC, we would be hearing about Bush, and traitors, and profiteers. Tough shit; 0bama is the head Dem now so it leads back to him.
You can say it but it's false.
 

Fear No Evil

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Sinsear
Well it seems these days the popular trend is to not pay your bills. And it looks like Obama is leading by example.
No it doesn't

Yer right, he doesn't seem to be leading anything lately.. our country being the most important thing.
 

JEDIYoda

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Originally posted by: winnar111
http://www.suntimes.com/news/p...ST-NWS-rally20.article

Chicago has yet to recoup the $1.74 million cost of President Obama's victory celebration in Grant Park -- despite a burgeoning $50.5 million budget shortfall that threatens more layoffs and union concessions.

"The Democratic National Committee has not yet paid us,'' Peter Scales, a spokesman for the city's Office of Budget and Management, said Thursday after questions from the Chicago Sun-Times. "We're reaching out to them this week."


The bill for Barack Obama's election night rally at Grant Park
Police $1 million
Emergency Management and Communications Office $121,578
Fire Department $85,965
Streets and Sanitation $71,694
Transportation $49,659
Cultural Affairs $2,567
Environment $2,309
CTA $201,500
Chicago Park District $202,440
(Park District breakdown):
Giant video boards $68,900
Electrical $37,185
Sound $37,500
Stagehands $29,850
Portable toilets $12,500
Security $7,505
Stage rental $6,000
Bike racks, barricades $2,000
Heavy equipment $1,000
Total bill $1,737,712


Stacie Paxton, a spokeswoman for the Obama-controlled DNC, explained the reimbursement delay by saying, "We are still looking at various costs and bills.'' She would not say whether parts of the bill are disputed.

The city spent $1 million on police protection for the rally. The Office of Emergency Management and Communications racked up more than $120,000 in expenses, including $19,500 paid to police official Neil Sullivan to quarterback election night logistics.

In late October, Mayor Daley assured that the cash-flush Obama campaign would reimburse the city for every penny spent on the rally. "We have a financial crisis," he said at the time. "The City of Chicago could not afford $2 million on this because we're gonna be laying off people, cutting back. That [cost] would really be unfortunate. . . . It's a huge cost to the City of Chicago.

"This is not a presidential visit. . . . This is a political event, and they've agreed to pay for all those services -- all the expenses of that. ... It's costly, but they raised quite a bit of money. There's no [shortage] of money in that campaign."

The day after the Nov. 4 election, Daley was asked again whether the Obama campaign would pay up.

"Yeah. I don't know why you're so negative. ... What is this? He just won for president, and you say, 'He's not gonna pay his bills,' " the mayor said then.

On Dec. 9, the day the Sun-Times disclosed the $1.74 million tab, Obama spokesman Ben LaBolt referred questions to the DNC.

Paxton confirmed then that the rally was a "DNC-sponsored event" and that the party was discussing the itemized bill with the city.



Straight out of the Tim Geithner school of finance, where compensating cities is optional.

Of course, we needed that stimulus pork package so badly so cities could have money, right? Change has come to Washington!

As usual you can`t get anything right now can you?
You are way too funny!!!
 

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Originally posted by: Thump553
Kind of odd that all the numbers are itemized, except for police which is a round million-and more than half the total "billing." I'm sure the OP would pay such a vague billing promptly if it was presented to him, without any sort of audit or review.

Yet another baseless whinning.

Police unions hence the "flat" fee...dems love unions they should pay up.
 

umbrella39

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Originally posted by: Sinsear
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Sinsear
Well it seems these days the popular trend is to not pay your bills. And it looks like Obama is leading by example.
No it doesn't

So the DNC did in fact pay the bills and this article is nothing but lies?? Is that your position?

My position is that Obama isn't the DNC and doesn't owe any money to the city of Chicago so Sinear's claim is total bullshit.

If this was 5 years ago and it was the RNC, we would be hearing about Bush, and traitors, and profiteers. Tough shit; 0bama is the head Dem now so it leads back to him.

But, but, but, Bush... :roll:
 

Thump553

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Originally posted by: bozack
Originally posted by: Thump553
Kind of odd that all the numbers are itemized, except for police which is a round million-and more than half the total "billing." I'm sure the OP would pay such a vague billing promptly if it was presented to him, without any sort of audit or review.

Yet another baseless whinning.

Police unions hence the "flat" fee...dems love unions they should pay up.


Please provide some authority for your factual statement that the police unions set the $1,000,000 flat fee.