Obama starts campaigning for a second term already

[Triumph]

To hell with these people, and with all of you who pay attention to it! Campaigning is just like advertising, if you ignore it, it will go away. I do my part by turning off the radio and news as soon as they start talking about it. We should elect leaders through a series of discussions and debates, not through glorified popularity contests.

The worst was listening to one of these super delegates back in 2007, I think from the Philly area. They were asking her who she planned on getting behind, Obama or Clinton. Her response was, "Well I'm going to wait and see who looks like they're ahead." Wait...WHAT? You're not the least bit concerned about who is better, you're more concerned with who it looks like is going to win??? Get the hell outta here.

 

[IceBergSLiM]

sucks. less time he has for golfing and picking NCAA winners now.

 

[JockoJohnson]

Really? Didn't a lot of people say that about what would happen after he won his first term? :whiste:

But enjoy your wedge issue. Guns, abortion, religion, gay rights all of them engineered to make us fight over dumb shit instead of things that really matter.

Totally agree. If the Republicans are dumb enough, and they are, they will fight over the wedge issues instead of the one GIGANTIC issue staring them in the face--the ever increasing deficit which has grown tremendously under Pres. Obama's watch.

And back to the topic, this is just par for the course like others have stated. Nothing to be troubled over.

 

[Tom]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42392382/ns/politics-decision_2012/

So wait, we don't even get a solid two and a half years out of this guy before he starts hitting the campaign trails again? There should be laws saying that you can't campaign until at least a year before an election. Maybe even 6 months.

Republicans started campaigning against him before inauguration. He has to respond.

That's the way things are.

 

[Fern]

I'd very much like for him to start campaigning the minute.....no, the very second he's legally able to, because the guy has a lot of explaining to do on a whole pile of things he's had to either renege or compromise too deeply on.

sucks. less time he has for golfing and picking NCAA winners now.

LOL.

My two favorite replies so far.

Fern

 

[irwincur]

"There should be laws saying that you can't campaign until at least a year before an election. Maybe even 6 months."

There should be laws for everything it seems... If someone wants to campaign - who cares. It is their money and that of their supporters.

And lets not fool ourselves, Obama has been on the campaign trail since day one of office. It has just been more publicly funded.

 

[jonks]

Where are the Obama 2012 images/tshirts with a Mayan temple in the background titled "We Told You It Was Coming"

 

[Macamus Prime]

Nice how Sarah Palin was campaigning for 2012,... in 2008.

 

[Triumph]

Nice how Sarah Palin was campaigning for 2012,... in 2008.

I hate Sarah Palin, but wha... in 2008 she was a no-name until McCain chose her as her running mate around July, for the November election.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

I agree wholeheartedly. Look to our Canadian neighbors and how they handle elections. Our process is a breeding ground for corruption. Imagine the reduced cost of a 6 month election cycle versus an 18 month.

As one of your Canadian neighbors I would like to point out that we are on our fourth election in 7 years now. Our election campaigns may be shorter but the frequency is costing us a fortune.

 

[Deeko]

I agree. The sooner the better (but unless he gets impeached) we are stuck with him for another 1 1/2 year or so. A lot of people seem to think that IF he wins a second term, that will be when he decides to attack the 2nd amendment. We all know he is very anti-gun for US citizens.

Wow....just, just wow.

 

[drebo]

My feeling is that it should be illegal for any currently serving politician to actively campaign during any open session of Congress. They should be limited to periods of recess and should be required to use their own money to campaign.

I mean, really...think about Obama...he takes Airforce One and a whole retinue of people to go to Chicago to campaign for a weekend and celebrates raising $2 million dollars...but it cost us tax payers $5 million to send him there. It's ridiculous.

Incumbents should not be able to use their present status to fascilitate their campaigns.

 

[Carmen813]

According to the article he's just filing his paperwork so he can start collecting campaign contribution. I don't see the "campaigning" you speak of.

This looks odd:



Then it says:



So, he's already started collecting money before he's filed the necessary paperwork to start?

The article doen't make sense to me.

Fern

My guess would be that he was raising money for the DNC, and is now beginning to raise money for his reelection campaign. 2012-2016 is going to be a nightmare with the amount of money being tossed around regardless of who wins.

 

[bfdd]

I think it's about time we impeach Obama. He deserves it, others have, but I think it's about time we start setting a fucking example of what we expect from our politicians.

 

[fskimospy]

I think it's about time we impeach Obama. He deserves it, others have, but I think it's about time we start setting a fucking example of what we expect from our politicians.

So what are we impeaching him for today?

 

[bfdd]

So what are we impeaching him for today?

Lying and to make an example? I'm not saying we even need to stop there. Just a starting point. Unless you love being lied to by your President.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/barry-lando/secret-history-of-the-lib_b_844277.html

The hypocrites backing Barrack in this charade are making their protests and marches of early 2000's seem pointless. One doesn't need glasses of any shade to see that it was pretty much partisan bullshit in hindsight.

 

[fskimospy]

Lying and to make an example? I'm not saying we even need to stop there. Just a starting point. Unless you love being lied to by your President.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/barry-lando/secret-history-of-the-lib_b_844277.html

The hypocrites backing Barrack in this charade are making their protests and marches of early 2000's seem pointless. One doesn't need glasses of any shade to see that it was pretty much partisan bullshit in hindsight.

Well that's a well thought out argument!

To save Congress a little time (and to get 'ol Barry packing even sooner!), maybe you can point out where in the US code 'not following through on campaign rhetoric' is prohibited. Also, be a dear and show us the subsection on 'making an example of someone' as well.

 

[jonks]

My feeling is that it should be illegal for any currently serving politician to actively campaign during any open session of Congress. They should be limited to periods of recess and should be required to use their own money to campaign.

Care to back off that ledge?

 

[Jaskalas]

So what are we impeaching him for today?

I'm sure you can pick something from the menu.

 

[fskimospy]

I'm sure you can pick something from the menu.

What people really want to say is 'impeach him for doing things I dislike and not being on my political sports team'.

Impeachment is basically the nuclear weapon of domestic politics, but if people on here had their way we would have a new president about every 45 minutes. I can't decide if this is because these people are ignorant, childish, or stupid, but I'm quite sure it's one of the three.

 

[bfdd]

Well that's a well thought out argument!

To save Congress a little time (and to get 'ol Barry packing even sooner!), maybe you can point out where in the US code 'not following through on campaign rhetoric' is prohibited. Also, be a dear and show us the subsection on 'making an example of someone' as well.

So I guess lying to the American people, while president, doesn't qualify?

 

[fskimospy]

So I guess lying to the American people, while president, doesn't qualify?

It doesn't actually. Can you show me where in the US code the president is not allowed to make false statements to the American people?

 

[MomentsofSanity]

So I guess lying to the American people, while president, doesn't qualify?

Credibility takes a giant hit when someone doesn't bother to take the time to first have a basic knowledge of that which they speak.

 

[bfdd]

Lying to the American people in a speech could be seen as treason, especially when he's lying about our war actions and justifications for war. I mean isn't that why you guys wanted Bush tried?

 

[fskimospy]

Lying to the American people in a speech could be seen as treason, especially when he's lying about our war actions and justifications for war. I mean isn't that why you guys wanted Bush tried?

No, lying to the American people in a speech could not be seen as treason. You do realize that the President is actually not required to justify his actions to the American people in any way, shape, or form, right?

I have no idea who you consider 'you guys', but I certainly never advocated that Bush should have been impeached for invading Iraq. I DID advocate for his impeachment for knowingly and deliberately violating FISA, but again that's a purposeful violation of a standing US criminal statute.

If you can point to Obama willfully and repeatedly ordering the mass commission of felonies, I'll be right there with you. This whole 'BAWWW, HE'S MEAN!' thing isn't going to cut it though.