Obama sets record high for deporting illegals

[Schadenfroh]

http://articles.latimes.com/2010/oct/06/nation/la-na-illegal-immigration-20101007

The Obama administration deported a record number of illegal immigrants in the 2010 fiscal year

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The report comes at a time when the number of illegal immigrants coming into the U.S. is declining

I applaud Obama for acting in the best interest of the nation by stepping up the effort to deport those who would sidestep our immigration process and "cut in line" so to speak by crossing the border illegally. It is also most impressive that he is still able to portray himself as pro-illegal to appeal to his voter base, while in action, deporting more illegals than ever before.

My girlfriend is a foreign national and she had to jump through hoops to come here via a student visa from a country far more oppressive than Mexico (the main source of our illegal immigrants), so the fact that people simply walk across the border and skip what she had to go through sickens me.

This further adds to my opinion that Obama has exceeded my expectations in regards to national security issues.

 

[Fear No Evil]

Clearly they are racially profiling. I bet the vast majority of those deported were hispanic.

 

[spidey07]

When you have a record high number of illegals logic demands you would have a record high deportations as well. It's a percentage thing.

 

[sunzt]

When you have a record high number of illegals logic demands you would have a record high deportations as well. It's a percentage thing.

From the link:

More than 195,000 criminals were deported in 2010, a 70% increase over 2008 in the forced removal of immigrant criminals. Officials credited the increase to programs such as Secure Communities, which focuses law enforcement resources on identifying illegal immigrants who have committed crimes and are being held in local and state jails.

"ICE is committed to tough law enforcement," agency Director John Morton said.

The report comes at a time when the number of illegal immigrants coming into the U.S. is declining, according to a report released in September by the Pew Hispanic Center.

 

[Pens1566]

That has to be incorrect. spidey's talking points overcome facts. Everyone knows this.

 

[spidey07]

That has to be incorrect. spidey's talking points overcome facts. Everyone knows this.

I didn't say record number coming, I said record high illegal immigrants as in already here.

 

[DesiPower]

I applaud Omaba for this, this is one thing that was very necessary for the country as the drug lords were practically taking over certain areas of the towns. There is still a debate that the deportation is only for criminal illegals whereas it should be for all. IMO it was very important and something is better than nothing.

 

[PeshakJang]

What a bullshittingly slanted article.

Deportations have set record highs every year for the last 8 years, basically doubling under the Bush admin. The fact that they only increased by 3,000 last year, according to the LA times piece, shows that the rate of deportation drastically decreased.

 

[theeedude]

God bless Obama and Democrats in Congress.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

God bless Obama and Democrats in Congress.

But wait, earlier you said you didn't want this because it meant your strawberry prices might inch up a dime per quart. Which is it -- you want them deported or not?

 

[PeshakJang]

God bless Obama and Democrats in Congress.

Wow, you're such a racist. Pathetic.

 

[Siddhartha]

The last time someone posted a thread on how Mr Obama's adminstration has deported more people than Mr Bush, the response from the forum's anti-Obamaites was "I don't care about the numbers, I know Obama is weak on immigration."

 

[woolfe9999]

But wait, earlier you said you didn't want this because it meant your strawberry prices might inch up a dime per quart. Which is it -- you want them deported or not?

Oh, we definitely want them deported, but with one condition. That Spidey, FNE and everyone else with sub room temperature IQ be deported along with them.

- wolf

 

[IndyColtsFan]

oh, we definitely want them deported, but with one condition. That spidey, fne and everyone else with sub room temperature iq be deported along with them.

- wolf

lol

 

[werepossum]

Good for Obama - IF these are actual hard numbers and not merely "deport thyself!" letters. However, until the border is secure, deporting people is largely a waste of time. I also applaud his shift in emphasis toward deporting those with criminal convictions, as getting them out of the country even temporarily makes this a better country.

 

[CPA]

That's fine, now he needs to instruct his federales to back off of Arizona and to start deporting the 27% of prisoners who are illegal aliens.

 

[thraashman]

I applaud Omaba for this, this is one thing that was very necessary for the country as the drug lords were practically taking over certain areas of the towns. There is still a debate that the deportation is only for criminal illegals whereas it should be for all. IMO it was very important and something is better than nothing.

Well in that situation it's a matter of logistics. There's simply so many illegal immigrants that we can't afford to deport them all. People consistently complain the government is spending too much but refuse to let the government tax them more or cut spending to a program they support (was just reading an article on this). So we have to cut off how much money can fund deportations. And if we're gonna have to pay to deport people, well I think it's best if we get the most dangerous ones out first.

 

[thraashman]

Oh, we definitely want them deported, but with one condition. That Spidey, FNE and everyone else with sub room temperature IQ be deported along with them.

- wolf

THIS is something I support wholeheartedly!

In all seriousness though, it would be nice if there were a simply way to eradicate all hatred and bigotry caused by stupidity.

 

[theeedude]

But wait, earlier you said you didn't want this because it meant your strawberry prices might inch up a dime per quart. Which is it -- you want them deported or not?

I was always for deporting criminals. But yes, if you are going to work in the fields, by all means stay.

 

[techs]

Here's more news. Obama sued more companies for hiring illegals in ONE day than Bush did in 8 years.

Oh, btw, the Republican Party has always supported bringing in more workers into the US, legal or not.

 

[CycloWizard]

The last time someone posted a thread on how Mr Obama's adminstration has deported more people than Mr Bush, the response from the forum's anti-Obamaites was "I don't care about the numbers, I know Obama is weak on immigration."

Obama can be seen in either light because he says one thing and does another. In this case, I support his actions, but they are contradicted by the verbal message. He simply can't force himself to be consistent on any issue, which is his biggest problem IMO.

 

[Carmen813]

I fail to see how this contradicts his message in anyway. The deportation has largely been due to an increase of removing people who commit crimes in the U.S. (aside from being here illegally). Obama has consistently stated that his position is to offer illegal immigrants a path to legal status so long as they have followed other U.S. laws.

Seems to me that the only people who believe this is inconsistent with his message are those who didn't know what he was advocating for in the first place.

 

[PeshakJang]

Here's something interesting I just found with 10 minutes of research... pretty good example of the selective statistics used in the claim that Obama has deported a record number of immigrants:

http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/statistics/yearbook/2009/ois_yb_2009.pdf

DHS 2009 Statistics Yearbook

Table 36.
ALIENS REMOVED OR RETURNED: FISCAL YEARS 1892 TO 2009

...

Notice that while Removals went up for FY 2009, Returns are as low as they have been since 1973

Difference?

Returns are the confirmed movement of an inadmissible or deportable alien out of the United States not based on an order of removal. Most of the voluntary returns are of Mexican
nationals who have been apprehended by the U.S. Border Patrol and are returned to Mexico.

Basically meaning that when an illegal alien is arrested, he can either volunteer to go home, leaving the possibility open for future return, or if he doesn't volunteer, he'll be legally ejected and barred from re-entry. Since the handbook notes that most returns are conducted by the border patrol, this is even more telling of the fact that border enforcement has significantly declined under Obama and the Democratic congress.

So basically, if you look at ALL the statistics for deportations, in Obama's first year, we deported almost 17% FEWER illegals than the year before, and since the Democrats took control of congress, total deportations have decreased dramatically.

 

[Schadenfroh]

Obama can be seen in either light because he says one thing and does another. In this case, I support his actions, but they are contradicted by the verbal message. He simply can't force himself to be consistent on any issue, which is his biggest problem IMO.

It works out very well in foreign policy. The Europeans complain far less than under Bush, despite the fact that the same Bush era national security policies are being (mostly) continued. They even gave Obama The Nobel Peace Prize. Seems like the Anti-US Europeans can mostly be satisfied with some good speeches and do not notice (or care about) the contradictions between words and actions.

Obama knows how to play them, we need Obama in a PR position once his term(s) expire.

 

[werepossum]

Here's something interesting I just found with 10 minutes of research... pretty good example of the selective statistics used in the claim that Obama has deported a record number of immigrants:

http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/statistics/yearbook/2009/ois_yb_2009.pdf

DHS 2009 Statistics Yearbook
Notice that while Removals went up for FY 2009, Returns are as low as they have been since 1973

Difference?

Basically meaning that when an illegal alien is arrested, he can either volunteer to go home, leaving the possibility open for future return, or if he doesn't volunteer, he'll be legally ejected and barred from re-entry. Since the handbook notes that most returns are conducted by the border patrol, this is even more telling of the fact that border enforcement has significantly declined under Obama and the Democratic congress.

So basically, if you look at ALL the statistics for deportations, in Obama's first year, we deported almost 17% FEWER illegals than the year before, and since the Democrats took control of congress, total deportations have decreased dramatically.

That's what I wondered - how many of these "deported persons" are actually nothing more than an illegal who have been sent a "Deport thyself!" letter and then reported as an illegal deported rather than a letter added to a landfill. Thanks for the info.