Obama....one of the worst presidents in American history?

[Indus]

I'll say one thing, he may not be good but he's NOT THE WORST by a long shot.

That honor goes to the President who got us from making a budget surplus to 8+ trillion in debt and millions of Americans killed, wounded, disabled by taking the country into a war in Iraq we didn't need.. all the while not raising taxes on his rich friends to pay for it.. the very president who kept on saying Pakistan is our ALLY.. oh really?

And lets not even forget him saying on video cameras he's at home in his ranch and he'll go over some things with Kyle Rove while there's a memo on his desk titled "Bin Ladin determined to attack US!"

Maybe I have a grudge because I was actually in the World Trade Center on 31st floor.

Am I an Obama fan? No.
Do I like his promises and stuff? No he's a politician.
Do I trust him? No he's a politician.
Do I vote for him? Well I didn't vote for Palin and last time around I voted for Romney.
But is he the worst POTUS? NO!

 

[Matt1970]

I'll say one thing, he may not be good but he's NOT THE WORST by a long shot.

That honor goes to the President who got us from making a budget surplus to 8+ trillion in debt and millions of Americans killed, wounded, disabled by taking the country into a war in Iraq we didn't need.. all the while not raising taxes on his rich friends to pay for it.. the very president who kept on saying Pakistan is our ALLY.. oh really?

And lets not even forget him saying on video cameras he's at home in his ranch and he'll go over some things with Kyle Rove while there's a memo on his desk titled "Bin Ladin determined to attack US!"

Maybe I have a grudge because I was actually in the World Trade Center on 31st floor.

Am I an Obama fan? No.
Do I like his promises and stuff? No he's a politician.
Do I trust him? No he's a politician.
Do I vote for him? Well I didn't vote for Palin and last time around I voted for Romney.
But is he the worst POTUS? NO!

While there isn't much Bush did I can defend, we were back to spending more than we were taking in before one Bush fiscal policy was put in place.

 

[Muse]

I think so. This inexperienced community organizer was never cut out to be a leader, much less President.

From his bald face lies about government spying -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RQvKQGzcoc (Opposing Bush on Patriot Act, but taking NSA to whole new level by 2013 with no intention on stopping length and depth of domestic syping on Americans for NO DAMN REASON).

...to the IRS scandal, letting political sympathizers run amok and taking no account for it in going after the TEA party..

...to a series of decisions that led to the deaths of diplomats in Benghazi...

...to imposing a requirement that all Americans purchase healthcare against their will...

....you name it.

This is simply the worst president, ever, surpassing even the utter failure of the Carter Administration (poor economic growth, hyper housing inflation and 15% fixed rate mortgages, Iran hostage crises).

And we have 3 1/2 more years to go of this nightmare. :'(

Talk about having an agenda!

 

[WTSherman]

I feel sorry for Obama sometimes, I have the foresight of knowing his legacy. He'll be a zealot, an extremist, a destroyer of nations.

 

[Angry Irishman]

He's serious guys! He posted pictures!

Hey guys! It's yet another condescending remark from ivwshane. Attempting to garner support from your usual click? It's called a sense of humor....try it some time.

 

[DominionSeraph]

Not a single person responded, so I'll post the highlights of his accomplishments again... every single one fantastic. Feel free to actually address these points instead of just saying "he is the evilest evildoer because!!!

Passing the first healthcare bill in 100 years, even if it IS the Republican plan.
Allowing openly gay people in the military.
Taking some steps to wind down Iraq.
Stopped Gaddafi.
Authorized kill of Bin Laden.
Released new fuel efficiency standards in 2011 that will nearly double the fuel economy for cars and trucks by 2025.
With funds from stimulus, started $4.35 billion program of competitive grants to encourage and reward states for education reform.
Signed Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act in 2009, giving women who are paid less than men for the same work the right to sue their employers after they find out about the discrimination, even if that discrimination happened years ago. Under previous law, as interpreted by the Supreme Court in Ledbetter v. Goodyear Tire & Rubber Co., the statute of limitations on such suits ran out 180 days after the alleged discrimination occurred, even if the victims never knew about it.
In 2011, signed FDA Food Safety Modernization Act, which boosts the Food and Drug Administration’s budget by $1.4 billion and expands its regulatory responsibilities to include increasing number of food inspections, issuing direct food recalls, and reviewing the current food safety practices of countries importing products into America.
Could you name even three major accomplishments from Bush's 8 years?
Signed the Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act (2009). Nine years in the making and long resisted by the tobacco industry, the law mandates that tobacco manufacturers disclose all ingredients, obtain FDA approval for new tobacco products, and expand the size and prominence of cigarette warning labels, and bans the sale of misleadingly labeled “light” cigarette brands and tobacco sponsorship of entertainment events.
Passed Fair Sentencing Act: Signed 2010 legislation that reduces sentencing disparity between crack versus powder cocaine possessionfrom100 to1 to 18 to1.
As part of the 2009 stimulus, invested $90 billion, more than any previous administration, in research on smart grids, energy efficiency, electric cars, renewable electricity generation, cleaner coal, and biofuels.
Signed 2009 Children’s Health Insurance Authorization Act, which allows the Children’s Health Insurance Program (CHIP) to cover health care for 4 million more children, paid for by a tax increase on tobacco products.
In 2009, eliminated the Bush-era restrictions on embryonic stem cell research, which shows promise in treating spinal injuries, among many other areas.
In 2009, signed Claims Resolution Act, which provided $4.6 billion in funding for a legal settlement with black and Native American farmers who the government cheated out of loans and natural resource royalties in years past.
Created the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau

You missed the biggest: He saved the Gulf Coast. (And a collapse there would have likely taken down the economy of the rest of the country, teetering as it was.)
Would McCain have demanded that cleanup efforts start immediately when BP, Transocean, and Haliburton were all playing the game of "not me"? I don't see it. To a Republican, corporations are holy, and it is not the place of mere men to dictate to them. To a Republican, the environment is too big to contemplate; it must sit and wait until the courts decide who's responsible. If it takes 10-20 years while others bear the burden, well, that's just how it is. It's just God's will.

McCain would've never strongarmed BP into setting up a $20 billion fund administered by a third party allowing for immediate compensation. That's beyond your standard Democrat's forward-thinking. Obama hammered out a way to get shit done now. He didn't have the power to dictate to BP that they had to do it, they really didn't want to, but he got them to agree to it anyway.

Another success was in restoring FEMA to competency.

 

[ivwshane]

Hey guys! It's yet another condescending remark from ivwshane. Attempting to garner support from your usual click? It's called a sense of humor....try it some time.

Lol! For someone who doesn't care about me you seem to easily get butt hurt. It's called a sense of humor, try it sometime

 

[Angry Irishman]

Lol! For someone who doesn't care about me you seem to easily get butt hurt. It's called a sense of humor, try it sometime

Oh alright, I'm sure that was your intention....

You were, in fact, being insulting and condescending once again...not by a far stretch displaying a sense of humor. It's a shame you have to communicate this way consistently with me and just about everyone you engage in conversation with on this board. I'm certainly not butt hurt but I do grow tired of the unnecessary comments.

 

[MooseNSquirrel]

Not grounds to impeach but certainly enough to add to many folks opinions of the typical behavior of our president. I wouldn't call it being a tyrant as much as being ineffective at dealing with a reoccurring situation and not leading shit as usual. He's always been more a party man than the POTUS. This attitude and consistent behavior widens the divide and is detrimental to the country. This current stamping of his feet and attempting to divert all blame in front of the media is just another example of many. For the good of this country he needs to rise above the partisanship and LEAD. That is something he rarely does effectively beyond face words. I'd say the same thing of a Republican president. It's not the party as much as the man.

Is this sarcasm?

 

[Angry Irishman]

Is this sarcasm?

No

 

[HomerJS]

It is not the duty of the president to "create jobs."

Lack of regulation and oversight created the environment that led to the job loss. Leave capitalism alone is a mantra of conservatives and look what it got us.

 

[BudAshes]

Obama is a decent pres. Bush the sequel is obviously the worst in a long time. Not really his fault though, as he is just a fool with a rich powerful dad. Not his fault he was too dumb to realize how he was being manipulated.

 

[MooseNSquirrel]

No

Even funnier.

 

[thraashman]

I feel sorry for Obama sometimes, I have the foresight of knowing his legacy. He'll be a zealot, an extremist, a destroyer of nations.

I feel sorry for you, as I have the common sense and intelligence of knowing you sound really silly with this statement.

 

[BoberFett]

I feel sorry for you, as I have the common sense and intelligence of knowing you sound really silly with this statement.

No sillier than you sound most of the time with your "all Ds are smarter than all Rs" nonsense.

Someday when you grow up you'll realize you sound as ignorant as any slackjawed conservative.

 

[thraashman]

No sillier than you sound most of the time with your "all Ds are smarter than all Rs" nonsense.

Someday when you grow up you'll realize you sound as ignorant as any slackjawed conservative.

Awww. It's cute that you think you deserve to address me as if you're my equal or better than me. Unfortunately for you, you are very much my lesser and as such should not address me without my permission first.

 

[bunnyfubbles]

I'm inclined to agree with you, but the reality is that more people like him than dislike him. That's how he was elected twice.
I'm still up in the air over ACA though, it might work out for me personally, though I may have too divorce my wife to see any benefit.

can get elected by being disliked less than the alternative

2 party system is a joke

 

[alkemyst]

2 party system is a joke

I agree, it's a shell game that it being played to draw the masses away from the underlying issues.

The powers that be have categorized our people and know how they vote. Being that they can lump bills and other crap together on one vote gets the job done.

IMHO there is no reason not to open up voting via the internet and break out each item individually.

People get to vote on what they want and ignore the rest.

Heck even allow a write in for President.

The false fear is from our government is it's too easy to buy / sell votes and Mickey Mouse will be elected president.

 

[BoberFett]

Awww. It's cute that you think you deserve to address me as if you're my equal or better than me. Unfortunately for you, you are very much my lesser and as such should not address me without my permission first.

Thank you for demonstrating my point.

Edit: And your signature is adorable too. The buffoon get an F for logic, but I'll give him an A for length.

 

[ericlp]

Well, he certainly is better than Bush Jr.... But damn anyone with half a braincell could have proved that.

That being said... I think the guy was on the fence mostly and has not done enough. He's spent too MUCH TIME trying please the right and his own agenda. If I was president that fuck boehner would be crying everyday and the tea baggers would be shitting bricks daily. As I cut the military by 80% and mothballed the pentagon to use the money to fund my own shit. I would have slashed home land security down to a little office in Texas and bought back all the rights and added a few more ...

 

[shira]

Our society believes that if someone needs emergency treatment for an injury or illness, they should receive that treatment. But, many among us can't or won't pay for that cost. They take the risk that they won't end up in the hospital - and know that if they DO end up in the hospital, the rest of society will be forced to cover their costs. It only makes sense that if we're going to treat everyone, that everyone should pool their risks together (that's what insurance is). So, I disagree with your criticism of the ACA.

So what do you want - do you want the ambulance crew to say, "do you have insurance" "no?" Then drive away, leaving an accident victim in the middle of the road for his relatives to shovel up? If you want these people to be able to get health care when it's needed, then you need to realize that these people need to get insurance to pool their risks - only 1 in 20 will need that $20k of medical attention; so all 20 should be spending $1k to protect themselves from not being able to pay for that medical care. (Numbers are fictitious, but serve to illustrate the point.)

Unfortunately, the right's view of "personal responsibility" seems to be "let 'em die," which is (yet again) an example of the right's inability to accept how the real world works. Because, in fact, there's no way in hell that - in the real world - anyone will be left to die.

So what we already have in the U.S. is an implicit mandate - the "have's" are already subsidizing the cost of medical care for the have nots and the "will nots" among us. But when the attempt is made to create an explicit mandate - a recognition of reality, the right goes ape-shit.

 

[Angry Irishman]

Even funnier.

Good for you....laughing is healthy. Acting as a partisan is not.

 

[FelixDeCat]

Well, he certainly is better than Bush Jr.... But damn anyone with half a braincell could have proved that.

That being said... I think the guy was on the fence mostly and has not done enough. He's spent too MUCH TIME trying please the right and his own agenda. If I was president that fuck boehner would be crying everyday and the tea baggers would be shitting bricks daily. As I cut the military by 80% and mothballed the pentagon to use the money to fund my own shit. I would have slashed home land security down to a little office in Texas and bought back all the rights and added a few more ...

How can you say that Obama has spent too much time pleasing anyone other than gun grabbing, big government socialists like himself?

If you think nationalizing health care, not presenting a budget in FOUR YEARS and otherwise denying responsibility for anything that goes wrong is "pleasing the right", you are either trolling or didnt realize the faux pas you made.

 

[ivwshane]

How can you say that Obama has spent too much time pleasing anyone other than gun grabbing, big government socialists like himself?

If you think nationalizing health care, not presenting a budget in FOUR YEARS and otherwise denying responsibility for anything that goes wrong is "pleasing the right", you are either trolling or didnt realize the faux pas you made.

Lol! Troll says what?

Not a single damn thing you said was true, not a single damn thing!


The bubble is strong with this one!

 

[woolfe9998]

Lol! Troll says what?

Not a single damn thing you said was true, not a single damn thing!


The bubble is strong with this one!

Oh no, it must be all true because Rush Limbaugh told him so.