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Obama On Fox Thursday

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: thraashman
Originally posted by: Genx87
I will actually tune in because Oreilly should give him a good interview. It wont be a Katie Couric BJ express job like we got on the worldwide Obama tour.

That said, I also look forward to seeing how Obama handles himself with a hostile interviewer.

I think hostile is an understatement. Let's all just face it, O'Reilly is a dick 99.9% of the time. I don't expect that to be any different this time.

He is a dick to loonbats. He will be professional with Obama because Obama isnt a loonbat.

He's a dick to anyone that doesn't fit his agenda or view. O'reilly is the loonbat.
 
Originally posted by: Perknose
Hmmm, one candidate showing flexibility and political courage going into Papa Bear's Den of the Cut Off Microphone, while the other candidate's campaign appears to be behaving like a bunch of butt hurt schoolgirls over -- GASP -- a request for a real answer to a direct question! :shocked:
Is this the same FOX News that all the Democrats refused to have a debate on in the spring??
 
Originally posted by: heyheybooboo
Originally posted by: lupi
This should be interesting. Outside of the abc sponsored debated he hasn't appeared before any interviewer whom hasn't knelt before him first.

Buzzzzz. Fail.

I guess you missed Saddleback ....

Oh yes, that tough interview with such answers as "that's above my paygrade", next question.
 
Originally posted by: lupi
Originally posted by: heyheybooboo
Originally posted by: lupi
This should be interesting. Outside of the abc sponsored debated he hasn't appeared before any interviewer whom hasn't knelt before him first.

Buzzzzz. Fail.

I guess you missed Saddleback ....

Oh yes, that tough interview with such answers as "that's above my paygrade", next question.

We know all questions are within McCains pay grade, after all making 5 million a year is his definition of middle class.

See what I did there? The same thing you did, which was take part of Obama's response and spin it out of proportion so it has no resemblance at all to reality. You should work for Fox!
 
Originally posted by: SoundTheSurrender
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: thraashman
Originally posted by: Genx87
I will actually tune in because Oreilly should give him a good interview. It wont be a Katie Couric BJ express job like we got on the worldwide Obama tour.

That said, I also look forward to seeing how Obama handles himself with a hostile interviewer.

I think hostile is an understatement. Let's all just face it, O'Reilly is a dick 99.9% of the time. I don't expect that to be any different this time.

He is a dick to loonbats. He will be professional with Obama because Obama isnt a loonbat.

He's a dick to anyone that doesn't fit his agenda or view. O'reilly is the loonbat.

That is a bunch o crap. Watch the guy more than the 30 second youtube videos posted by leftwing bombthrowing websites.

He may get into Obama but in no way will he go off the handle with him.
 
I think I'll watch this too 🙂

I like Obama, it's (a small minority) of his followers that disgust me. (Same goes for McCain, just less revulsion) 🙂
 
Originally posted by: alchemize
I think I'll watch this too 🙂

I like Obama, it's (a small minority) of his followers that disgust me. (Same goes for McCain, just less revulsion) 🙂

O'Reilly is, imho, a classic bully. However, when he manages to land someone like Michael Moore, or now, Obama, you can bet that there are STRICT ground rules that each side signs off on before such a guy would ever come on his show, and so, O'Reilly has to pull back and behave.

For him, it's all about the ratings, in the end.

So . . . there won't be the mic pulling histrionics he gets to pull on nobodies.

Still, it should be interesting. :laugh:
 
Originally posted by: lupi
Originally posted by: heyheybooboo
Originally posted by: lupi
This should be interesting. Outside of the abc sponsored debated he hasn't appeared before any interviewer whom hasn't knelt before him first.

Buzzzzz. Fail.

I guess you missed Saddleback ....

Oh yes, that tough interview with such answers as "that's above my paygrade", next question.

Once again. You Fail

From the transcript:

WELL, I THINK THAT WHETHER YOU ARE LOOKING AT IT FROM A THEOLOGICAL PERSPECTIVE OR A SCIENTIFIC PERSPECTIVE, ANSWERING THAT QUESTION WITH SPECIFICITY, YOU KNOW, IS ABOVE MY PAY GRADE. BUT LET ME JUST SPEAK MORE GENERALLY ABOUT THE ISSUE OF ABORTION BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING OBVIOUSLY THE COUNTRY WRESTLES WITH.

ONE THING THAT I'M ABSOLUTELY CONVINCED OF IS THERE IS A MORAL AND ETHICAL CONTENT TO THIS ISSUE. SO I THINK THAT ANYBODY WHO TRIES TO DENY THE MORAL DIFFICULTIES AND GRAVITY OF THE ABORTION ISSUE I THINK IS NOT PAYING ATTENTION. SO THAT WOULD BE POINT NUMBER ONE.

BUT POINT NUMBER TWO, I AM PRO-CHOICE. I BELIEVE IN ROE V. WADE AND COME TO THAT CONCLUSION NOT BECAUSE I'M PRO ABORTION, BUT BECAUSE ULTIMATELY I DON'T THINK WOMEN MAKE THESE DECISIONS CASUALLY. THEY WRESTLE WITH THESE THINGS IN PROFOUND WAYS. IN CONSULTATION WITH THEIR PASTORS OR SPOUSES OR THEIR DOCTORS AND THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS.

AND SO FOR ME, THE GOAL RIGHT NOW SHOULD BE -- AND THIS IS WHERE I THINK WE CAN FIND COMMON GROUND AND BY THE WAY I HAVE NOW INSERTED THIS INTO THE DEMOCRAT PARTY PLATFORM IS HOW DO WE REDUCE THE NUMBER OF ABORTIONS BECAUSE THE FACT IS THAT ALTHOUGH WE'VE HAD A PRESIDENT WHO IS OPPOSED TO ABORTIONS OVER THE LAST EIGHT YEARS, ABORTIONS HAVE NOT GONE DOWN.

Kinda makes you look petty and small now doesn't it, Loopy ??

Sorry about the caps (they ain't mine)
 
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Thump553
That's going to steal a lot of thunder from McCain's acceptance speech the same night. Smart move on Obama's part, but I'm surprised at O'Reilly. I guess O'Reilly's greed for ratings outweighs his loyalty to the GOP.

There isnt any loyalty to the gop. That is a figment in the imagination of the left.

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the remaining 20%.
 
Originally posted by: lupi
Originally posted by: heyheybooboo
Originally posted by: lupi
This should be interesting. Outside of the abc sponsored debated he hasn't appeared before any interviewer whom hasn't knelt before him first.
Buzzzzz. Fail.
I guess you missed Saddleback ....
Oh yes, that tough interview with such answers as "that's above my paygrade", next question.
Senator Obama didn't get raked over the coals at Saddleback; so what? heyheybooboo supplied exactly what you asked for:
any interviewer whom hasn't knelt before him first.


Back on the Tucker Bounds fiasco: I saw the followup, when Wolf Blitzer announced the McCain campaign's withdrawal of the Larry King interview. McCain's people blew a great opportunity. It was a softball question the CNN crew knew the answer to: the Governor deploys Guard troops for forest fires, rescue missions, etc. Bounds hadn't done his homework and got burned when Campbell Brown wouldn't let him try to weasel instead of answering a simple question. I just hope it wasn't Senator McCain himself that pulled the interview. Snubbing the "liberal media" may play to the right wing, but this kind of petty political BS hurts him with the centrists he needs if he is to win the election.

edit: O'Reilly plays all kinds of petty StrawMan games, ad hominem attacks and rude microphone tricks on his regular shows, when his interview subjects are relatively powerless people who won't attract a lot of attention and can't really come back to hurt him. When he lands a Big Fish (like a Clinton, a Moore or an Obama) who will bring in a big audience, he generally plays it clean, That way he enhances his rep for "fairness" among those who don't see his daily schtick. Expect Senator Obama to get a reasonably fair deal.
 
Originally posted by: lupi
Originally posted by: heyheybooboo
Originally posted by: lupi
This should be interesting. Outside of the abc sponsored debated he hasn't appeared before any interviewer whom hasn't knelt before him first.

Buzzzzz. Fail.

I guess you missed Saddleback ....

Oh yes, that tough interview with such answers as "that's above my paygrade", next question.

Not everyone can wrestle with nuanced and complex moral, ethical, and scientific issues. Most just say "its wrong!" and move along. The 'change' that I'll embrace is to have politicians who understand the complexity inherent to such issues and who are honest enough to admit as much.

In other words, I'm saying that either you don't get it or are intellectually dishonest - a pale comparison to the man you're quoting.
 
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: Perknose
Hmmm, one candidate showing flexibility and political courage going into Papa Bear's Den of the Cut Off Microphone, while the other candidate's campaign appears to be behaving like a bunch of butt hurt schoolgirls over -- GASP -- a request for a real answer to a direct question! :shocked:
Is this the same FOX News that all the Democrats refused to have a debate on in the spring??

Yes, the democrats decide when the Fox airtime benefits outweigh the negatives of giving Fox more visibility as if they were not a propaganda network.

It's a little like deciding whether to return the calls of the National Enquirer, there's a starting reason not to.
 
Originally posted by: andy04
Originally posted by: Craig234
Originally posted by: hellokeith
Re topic, good for Obama. He knows he'll get a far fairer treatment on O'Reilly than any Republican would ever get on CNN/NBC/MSNBC/NPR.

No, he doesn't. And he won't. He knows that he'll do damage control by appearing directly, over the BS that will be spewed about him to that audience otherwise.

Lets see how he does on the "no spin zone" coz all he does is spin... I guess he will just memorize a few answers and apply them to all Bill's questions spinning all around him... it will be interesting to watch

Wow. You're supposed to add water to the kool-aid, you know.
 
Originally posted by: Carmen813
Originally posted by: lupi
Originally posted by: heyheybooboo
Originally posted by: lupi
This should be interesting. Outside of the abc sponsored debated he hasn't appeared before any interviewer whom hasn't knelt before him first.

Buzzzzz. Fail.

I guess you missed Saddleback ....

Oh yes, that tough interview with such answers as "that's above my paygrade", next question.

We know all questions are within McCains pay grade, after all making 5 million a year is his definition of middle class.

See what I did there? The same thing you did, which was take part of Obama's response and spin it out of proportion so it has no resemblance at all to reality. You should work for Fox!


I heard some popel around here talking about husseins 4 mil house not being a very big or lavish property for it's area, so maybe the 5 million thing wasn't to far off the mark.
 
Originally posted by: m1ldslide1
Originally posted by: lupi
Originally posted by: heyheybooboo
Originally posted by: lupi
This should be interesting. Outside of the abc sponsored debated he hasn't appeared before any interviewer whom hasn't knelt before him first.

Buzzzzz. Fail.

I guess you missed Saddleback ....

Oh yes, that tough interview with such answers as "that's above my paygrade", next question.

Not everyone can wrestle with nuanced and complex moral, ethical, and scientific issues. Most just say "its wrong!" and move along. The 'change' that I'll embrace is to have politicians who understand the complexity inherent to such issues and who are honest enough to admit as much.

In other words, I'm saying that either you don't get it or are intellectually dishonest - a pale comparison to the man you're quoting.


Maybe we should just vote present and move on.
 
Originally posted by: CallMeJoe
Originally posted by: lupi
Originally posted by: heyheybooboo
Originally posted by: lupi
This should be interesting. Outside of the abc sponsored debated he hasn't appeared before any interviewer whom hasn't knelt before him first.
Buzzzzz. Fail.
I guess you missed Saddleback ....
Oh yes, that tough interview with such answers as "that's above my paygrade", next question.
Senator Obama didn't get raked over the coals at Saddleback; so what? heyheybooboo supplied exactly what you asked for:
any interviewer whom hasn't knelt before him first.

Um, yeah that's why your statement backs my point, but thanks for playing.
 
I'll give Obama credit for a very good answer regarding Iran: Not appropriate to tip your hand on possible military action. :thumbsup:

The question becomes, is Obama sincere about using the military as a last resort. After that interview, I'm comfortable saying he believes he would use the military, but I doubt his party and his pundits would support him on any kind of military action outside of perhaps token missile strikes (a la Bill Clinton).
 
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