Obama must be licking his chops right now

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Misery Index at a 28 year high...and people are still looking for hope and change. Despite weak Republican candidates, the election will be close.
 

cybrsage

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I dunno. His supporters actually believe he honored all his promises to them. GitMo is closed. The troops left Iraq a LONG time ago, his administration is transparent, he does not sign things for a few days so people get to read the bills before he does...on and on. They actually believe he did these things.

His supporters are pretty blind, he is Bush-lite but they worship him anyway. I am not sure it will be too close.
 

sunzt

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A Romney presidency would be Bush 3. Huntsman would actually be a conservative.
 

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I'd vote for obama again if he gave most of his campaign money to charity. With such weak competition, it shouldn't require 90m +
 

Dari

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Romney looks like a big coward. The man has probably never been in an actual fight his whole life. His eyes look like he's in permanent fear. Or maybe he's just a nervous guy. I see zero confidence when I look at him. His conservative record is a joke and his lies about creating 100k jobs are just that once you start looking closer at the numbers (link)

His words and deeds simply do not match.
 

soundforbjt

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Romney has all the charisma of a bad used car salesman. He looks like a mannequin in the "preppy" section of a clothing store.
 

irishScott

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So to all the clueless morons who think Romney won't have the support of the Republican base, pay attention: The GOP Base wants Obama gone. Rabidly. Period. They would vote for the Republican candidate if it were batshit Bachman herself. Rabidly. Period.

Obama is probably going to win, but Mitt has a solid shot. And remember that independents and moderates determine elections, pandering to the base is what killed McCain.
 

irishScott

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Romney has all the charisma of a bad used car salesman. He looks like a mannequin in the "preppy" section of a clothing store.

And Obama's charisma was based entirely on his "hope and change" theme, which has really worn really thin for many people. He no longer appears as the idealistic beltway outsider, and his enthusiastic speeches have been revealed as nothing more than empty, good sounding words in most case.

Any way you slice it, this election is going to be close.
 

irishScott

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Romney looks like a big coward. The man has probably never been in an actual fight his whole life. His eyes look like he's in permanent fear. Or maybe he's just a nervous guy. I see zero confidence when I look at him. His conservative record is a joke and his lies about creating 100k jobs are just that once you start looking closer at the numbers (link)

His words and deeds simply do not match.

You think most of our politicians have been in actual fights?
 

soundforbjt

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And Obama's charisma was based entirely on his "hope and change" theme, which has really worn really thin for many people. He no longer appears as the idealistic beltway outsider, and his enthusiastic speeches have been revealed as nothing more than empty, good sounding words in most case.

Any way you slice it, this election is going to be close.

And it should've been a slam dunk for repubs. The fact that'll be close is telling in the repubs choice of candidates.
 

werepossum

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And it should've been a slam dunk for repubs. The fact that'll be close is telling in the repubs choice of candidates.
I'd say the fact that it will be close means our elections are usually close, the incumbent always has a big edge, Obama has been neither particularly good nor particularly bad, and Americans tend to have an unrealistic view of a President's responsibility and level of control.
 

cybrsage

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And it should've been a slam dunk for repubs. The fact that'll be close is telling in the repubs choice of candidates.

To continue with what werepossom said, the incumbant has a huge benefit...everything they say is news worthy and therefor they do not need to spend any money to get a lot of attention.

Just look at Bush during his reelection campaign. He had a failing economy and two unpopular wars and he still won the election.
 

cybrsage

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You think most of our politicians have been in actual fights?

Gone are the days of Duels.

The Burr–Hamilton duel was a duel between two prominent American politicians, the former Secretary of the Treasury Alexander Hamilton and sitting Vice President Aaron Burr, on July 11, 1804.[1] At Weehawken in New Jersey, Burr shot and fatally wounded Hamilton. Hamilton was carried to the home of William Bayard on the Manhattan shore, where he died at 2:00 p.m. the next day.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burr–Hamilton_duel

The duel was the counter-balance to the freedom of speech. Yes, you could say nasty things and act like an ass...but then you might be shot dead in a duel over the honor you attacked. Kept people from being ass-hats.
 

trenchfoot

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As an aside, I'm thinking how things would (not) change if a Repub manages to get elected over Obama.

Seeing as if the Repubs have managed to keep our country in the doldrums for all of Obama's term via minority rule, why would they change things if this how they want things in the first place? The rich are still getting richer, and the middle class and the poor are still going the opposite way, which is exactly what the folks who own the Repub Party want, don't they?

Without a re-election to worry about if Obama gets a second term, he may very well grow some lugnuts and pursue the campaign promises he made knowing full well the "mandate", as the Repubs do so like to throw around, the people had given him. Hmmmm, maybe this is why the Repubs so badly want to get rid of him now.

If Obama wins again, he has the awesome duty of laying the groundwork for his possible Dem successor. I don't think he's going to forget that, given the lessons learned from the Clinton/Gore years. I'm sure the DNC will remind him regardless.
 

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As an aside, I'm thinking how things would (not) change if a Repub manages to get elected over Obama.

Seeing as if the Repubs have managed to keep our country in the doldrums for all of Obama's term via minority rule, why would they change things if this how they want things in the first place? The rich are still getting richer, and the middle class and the poor are still going the opposite way, which is exactly what the folks who own the Repub Party want, don't they?

Without a re-election to worry about if Obama gets a second term, he may very well grow some lugnuts and pursue the campaign promises he made knowing full well the "mandate", as the Repubs do so like to throw around, the people had given him. Hmmmm, maybe this is why the Repubs so badly want to get rid of him now.

If Obama wins again, he has the awesome duty of laying the groundwork for his possible Dem successor. I don't think he's going to forget that, given the lessons learned from the Clinton/Gore years. I'm sure the DNC will remind him regardless.

My smoking days are over, but whatever you got must be really, really good.
 

Craig234

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I'd vote for obama again if he gave most of his campaign money to charity. With such weak competition, it shouldn't require 90m +

90m? The estimate is over a billion.

It's terrible. If he gave the money to charity, he'd get your vote and lose terribly.
 

LiuKangBakinPie

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At least in your country when the guy in charge mess up his out. You pick another. By us he can bang hiv positive girls, jnot delivering one of his promises. More people out of jobs etc etc and he will still get elected. All he do is make the same promises again and throw the past in for good measure. 20 years later they still singing that tune