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Obama: Law enforcemnet cannot enforece immigration law

Patranus

Patranus

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The Department of Homeland Security said Friday it was revising a program that authorized local police to enforce federal immigration law.
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The new guidelines sharply reduce the ability of local law enforcement to arrest and screen suspected illegal immigrants. They are intended to prevent sheriff and police departments from arresting people "for minor offenses as a guise to initiate removal proceedings," according to Homeland Security. The program will instead focus on more serious criminals.
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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124726259338825191.html

Huh, I thought breaking federal law by entering the country was, in itself a serious criminal offense.
 
Obama wants to make illegals citizens and move them into unions. Obama wants to dilute down cracker America as fast as he can. Would Rev Wright arrest illegals?
 
Originally posted by: BarrySotero
Obama wants to make illegals citizens and move them into unions. Obama wants to water down cracker America as fast as he can
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...and increasing his electoral base.
 
what? police can not enforce some laws? WTF.


i have thought for years we should have the military on the border. But we also need a real workers program and immigration
 
That's the way it has usually been. He's right, there are more important Crimes to be dealt with by Local Authorities.
 
THIS is going to end "well" with general public....

Correct me if I am wrong, Cops are suppose to deal with all kind of crime and Illegal entry into a country is a pretty big crime, correct?
 
Originally posted by: waggy
what? police can not enforce some laws? WTF.


i have thought for years we should have the military on the border. But we also need a real workers program and immigration
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I thought the police enforced local or state laws and the feds federal law? If the feds tell them to knock it off, then they pretty much have to since they have no jurisdiction. At least that's what I thought.

It's like that sheriff in Arizona or Nevada who had his deputies spend almost all their time rounding up illegals, hence people were getting away with other crimes. Do your job and let the feds do theirs. If they want your help they'll tell you.
 
Originally posted by: dainthomas
Originally posted by: waggy
what? police can not enforce some laws? WTF.


i have thought for years we should have the military on the border. But we also need a real workers program and immigration
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I thought the police enforced local or state laws and the feds federal law? If the feds tell them to knock it off, then they pretty much have to since they have no jurisdiction. At least that's what I thought.

It's like that sheriff in Arizona or Nevada who had his deputies spend almost all their time rounding up illegals, hence people were getting away with other crimes. Do your job and let the feds do theirs. If they want your help they'll tell you.
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And what happens if the Feds refuse to enforce federal law?
 
Originally posted by: dainthomas
Originally posted by: waggy
what? police can not enforce some laws? WTF.


i have thought for years we should have the military on the border. But we also need a real workers program and immigration
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I thought the police enforced local or state laws and the feds federal law? If the feds tell them to knock it off, then they pretty much have to since they have no jurisdiction. At least that's what I thought.

It's like that sheriff in Arizona or Nevada who had his deputies spend almost all their time rounding up illegals, hence people were getting away with other crimes. Do your job and let the feds do theirs. If they want your help they'll tell you.
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That was my understanding as well.
 
Originally posted by: frostedflakes
Originally posted by: dainthomas
Originally posted by: waggy
what? police can not enforce some laws? WTF.


i have thought for years we should have the military on the border. But we also need a real workers program and immigration
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I thought the police enforced local or state laws and the feds federal law? If the feds tell them to knock it off, then they pretty much have to since they have no jurisdiction. At least that's what I thought.

It's like that sheriff in Arizona or Nevada who had his deputies spend almost all their time rounding up illegals, hence people were getting away with other crimes. Do your job and let the feds do theirs. If they want your help they'll tell you.
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That was my understanding as well.
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Incorrect.

There was a law passed by congress and signed by Clinton in 1996 that allowed local law enforcement to be trained and enforce immigration law.
 
Originally posted by: Patranus
Originally posted by: dainthomas
Originally posted by: waggy
what? police can not enforce some laws? WTF.


i have thought for years we should have the military on the border. But we also need a real workers program and immigration
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I thought the police enforced local or state laws and the feds federal law? If the feds tell them to knock it off, then they pretty much have to since they have no jurisdiction. At least that's what I thought.

It's like that sheriff in Arizona or Nevada who had his deputies spend almost all their time rounding up illegals, hence people were getting away with other crimes. Do your job and let the feds do theirs. If they want your help they'll tell you.
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And what happens if the Feds refuse to enforce federal law?
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That still doesn't change things.

It is just like the Marijuana issue in Cali. They don't enforce Federal law. They enforce the state law. If the state makes it a crime, then the local/state police can enforce it.

Why is this so hard to understand?
 
Please. Feds chomp at the bit to take something anytime its remotely close to their jurisdiction. Nothing here to see.
 
Originally posted by: bl4ckfl4g


It is just like the Marijuana issue in Cali. They don't enforce Federal law. They enforce the state law. If the state makes it a crime, then the local/state police can enforce it.

Why is this so hard to understand?
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Huh? Obama has temporarily ceased raids on state licensed farms/clinics, but the DEA is still active in busting up the Mexican cartel run pot operations up north.
 
Originally posted by: Patranus
Originally posted by: frostedflakes
Originally posted by: dainthomas
Originally posted by: waggy
what? police can not enforce some laws? WTF.


i have thought for years we should have the military on the border. But we also need a real workers program and immigration
Click to expand...

I thought the police enforced local or state laws and the feds federal law? If the feds tell them to knock it off, then they pretty much have to since they have no jurisdiction. At least that's what I thought.

It's like that sheriff in Arizona or Nevada who had his deputies spend almost all their time rounding up illegals, hence people were getting away with other crimes. Do your job and let the feds do theirs. If they want your help they'll tell you.
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That was my understanding as well.
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Incorrect.

There was a law passed by congress and signed by Clinton in 1996 that allowed local law enforcement to be trained and enforce immigration law.
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Yep and it was and still is being abused by an asshole Sheriff in Arizona.
Nothing is really changing about the law itself, it simply directls local law enforcement agencies to quit profiling latinos.
If an illegal gets arrested and brought in they will still be checked and then deported.
Quit fear-mongering and think for a bit will ya.


Wait, check that, for you and Barry fear mongering and skewing facts is a way of life.
Carry on.
 
Originally posted by: OCguy
Originally posted by: bl4ckfl4g


It is just like the Marijuana issue in Cali. They don't enforce Federal law. They enforce the state law. If the state makes it a crime, then the local/state police can enforce it.

Why is this so hard to understand?
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Huh? Obama has temporarily ceased raids on state licensed farms/clinics, but the DEA is still active in busting up the Mexican cartel run pot operations up north.
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Well, one of those things is legal under CA law the other is not. I'll let you figure it out.
 
For all of you bashing Obama and Democrats in general, please keep in mind that Reagan (the bastion of Republican ideals) let them stay back in the 80's.
And Bush Sr did absolutely nothing about them.
Neither did Bush Jr, despite the fact he start a new McCarthysm aimed at terrorists. He tried to convince us we were in grave danger and needed to have our personal liberties restricted so the bad guys could be caught, yet allowed 10 million plus illegals to roam around freely and never did a damn thing about it. At least Obama is being honest and forthright by saying its not reasonable to expect serious results on this issue.
Though I will admit I hate it and I hate being automatically branded as racist simply because I dont like criminal invaders being allowed to roam freely here. And while I'm sure he does want them as voters in the next generation, Obama will pay the ultimate cost which is this country going to hell.
The good news is (I hope) that whites will be less likely to recieve villain status in America, seeing as how we wont be in charge any more. Obama did absolutely nothing to help race relations with his comments on the Harvard professor. I dont think coffee at the White House will help either. In the next generation we will have a majority of hardworking people who've got no cause to feel guilty about how they treat minorities, and that means less free handouts and liberal guilt.

In the meantime, I have already enrolled in beggining Spanish at my college for the fall semester. I know I will not be allowed to succeed in the new world order without fluency. And at this point, if we did declare an official language in America, it would be Spanglish. So both sides would have plenty of learning to do.
 
Originally posted by: OCguy
Originally posted by: bl4ckfl4g


It is just like the Marijuana issue in Cali. They don't enforce Federal law. They enforce the state law. If the state makes it a crime, then the local/state police can enforce it.

Why is this so hard to understand?
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Huh? Obama has temporarily ceased raids on state licensed farms/clinics, but the DEA is still active in busting up the Mexican cartel run pot operations up north.
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"Buy American!" 😀
 
the best solution for ilegal immigration is calling back Bush-Cheney so they can rip the economy in two and send back illegals to where they belong, It works, there is no jobs for them, so you dont need taxpayers money to raid work places anymore.
 
Bullshit, the laws cannot be enforced. They can, politicians just won't let them, because they want the cheap labor and the Hispanic vote and whatnot. Fuckwits.
 
So he wants to extend sanctuary cities to the entire nation? Wonderful. I am all for immigration reform. But not turn the blind eye which turns them into an underclass.
 
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