Obama Launches New Website

[Pabster]

Link here.

Looks like the gloves are coming off. I think this is a good response to Hillary's FUD site off her main site where she defends herself against "attacks" from her rivals.

The next 30 days are going to be a real blast.

 

[Nitemare]

in before the leave Hillary alone posts...

 

[jonks]

Yeah, and Obama is running on the "politics of hope" or something. Wait, did Obama say something bad about Hillary? Oops, guess he's going negative too. No surprises here.

 

[Red Dawn]

It's seems you have an agenda here Pabster.

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
It's seems you have an agenda here Pabster.

Hey, if his agenda is to move Obama up the ladder above Hillary, then...

Hi, I'm bamacre, and I approve this thread.


😀

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
It's seems you have an agenda here Pabster.

Hey, if his agenda is to move Obama up the ladder above Hillary, then...

Hi, I'm bamacre, and I approve this thread.


😀

:laugh: Yeah, I'd much rather have Obamarama than hillary - but neither would be the best option. 😀

 

[Linflas]

Originally posted by: Pabster
Link here.

Looks like the gloves are coming off. I think this is a good response to Hillary's FUD site off her main site where she defends herself against "attacks" from her rivals.

The next 30 days are going to be a real blast.

Good for him, he is going up against one of the most ruthless political teams around so he needs to take of the gloves and deal with them in kind.

 

[Skitzer]

Originally posted by: Pabster
Link here.

Looks like the gloves are coming off. I think this is a good response to Hillary's FUD site off her main site where she defends herself against "attacks" from her rivals.

The next 30 days are going to be a real blast.

This is text book Politics ...... I'm surprised it didn't start sooner.
My .02 ....... I believe she is getting desparate because she now knows she will probably lose Iowa.

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: Skitzer
This is text book Politics ...... I'm surprised it didn't start sooner.
My .02 ....... I believe she is getting desparate because she now knows she will probably lose Iowa.

The numbers in NH and SC aren't so favorable for her these days, either. I think it is clear that if she loses Iowa now, SC is likely to go for Obama. That leaves NH as her "firewall" but she's only leading by a few percentage points there too.

 

[Nitemare]

I could live with Obama and Huckabee

 

[bamacre]

Pabster is really just preaching to the choir here.

All the polls here at P&N I have seen show that folks here would rather see Obama get the nomination over Hillary. And it's not even close.

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: bamacre
Pabster is really just preaching to the choir here.

All the polls here at P&N I have seen show that folks here would rather see Obama get the nomination over Hillary. And it's not even close.

Who would have thought...a "right wing" conservative preaching to the choir...about a Democrat! :laugh:

I've said for quite some time that Obama was really the only Democrat I could vote for. And with 9/11 appearing to be a shoe-in for the Republican Nomination, Obama may well earn my vote. I disagree with him on a lot of issues, and I don't think he has the experience - but GWB wasn't exactly a foreign policy veteran when he arrived. And I think he's ran an overwhelmingly positive, clean campaign - despite the constant attacks from Hillary.

 

[theeedude]

If Obama can't handle the heat, he should stay out of the kitchen.

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: Pabster

Originally posted by: bamacre
Pabster is really just preaching to the choir here.

All the polls here at P&N I have seen show that folks here would rather see Obama get the nomination over Hillary. And it's not even close.

Who would have thought...a "right wing" conservative preaching to the choir...about a Democrat! :laugh:

I've said for quite some time that Obama was really the only Democrat I could vote for. And with 9/11 appearing to be a shoe-in for the Republican Nomination, Obama may well earn my vote. I disagree with him on a lot of issues, and I don't think he has the experience - but GWB wasn't exactly a foreign policy veteran when he arrived. And I think he's ran an overwhelmingly positive, clean campaign - despite the constant attacks from Hillary.

How is Giuliani a shoe-in again?

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: senseamp
If Obama can't handle the heat, he should stay out of the kitchen.

I think he's handled "the heat" very well.

Unlike your hero, who has spent the last year playing victim and gender-baiting the electorate.

 

[theeedude]

Originally posted by: Pabster

Originally posted by: bamacre
Pabster is really just preaching to the choir here.

All the polls here at P&N I have seen show that folks here would rather see Obama get the nomination over Hillary. And it's not even close.

Who would have thought...a "right wing" conservative preaching to the choir...about a Democrat! :laugh:

I've said for quite some time that Obama was really the only Democrat I could vote for. And with 9/11 appearing to be a shoe-in for the Republican Nomination, Obama may well earn my vote. I disagree with him on a lot of issues, and I don't think he has the experience - but GWB wasn't exactly a foreign policy veteran when he arrived. And I think he's ran an overwhelmingly positive, clean campaign - despite the constant attacks from Hillary.

So one of your reasons for supporting Obama is that GWB was inexperienced in foreign policy and it worked out so well?

 

[Jaskalas]

This is hilarious. Go Barrack! (Among Dems)

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: senseamp
So one of your reasons for supporting Obama is that GWB was inexperienced in foreign policy and it worked out so well?

No, I'm saying that being a veteran of diplomacy and foreign policy isn't a necessary pre-requisite for the job. The last few Presidents have proven that. It's who you surround yourself with.

 

[theeedude]

Originally posted by: Pabster

Originally posted by: senseamp
So one of your reasons for supporting Obama is that GWB was inexperienced in foreign policy and it worked out so well?

No, I'm saying that being a veteran of diplomacy and foreign policy isn't a necessary pre-requisite for the job. The last few Presidents have proven that. It's who you surround yourself with.

Well, Bush certainly hasn't proven that. It's only about who you surround yourself with if you don't know what you are doing. If you know what you are doing, you surround yourself with people who share your views, not adopt the views of the people you surround yourself with.

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: Pabster

Originally posted by: senseamp
So one of your reasons for supporting Obama is that GWB was inexperienced in foreign policy and it worked out so well?

No, I'm saying that being a veteran of diplomacy and foreign policy isn't a necessary pre-requisite for the job. The last few Presidents have proven that. It's who you surround yourself with.

Well, Bush certainly hasn't proven that. It's only about who you surround yourself with if you don't know what you are doing. If you know what you are doing, you surround yourself with people who share your views, not adopt the views of the people you surround yourself with.

I'd rather a president not pick people based on whether they share his views, but whether they have a rational, well reasoned view supported by evidence. Different points of view are required to avoid a bubble mentality.

 

[Jaskalas]

Originally posted by: sirjonk
I'd rather a president not pick people based on whether they share his views, but whether they have a rational, well reasoned view supported by evidence. Different points of view are required to avoid a bubble mentality.

Nothing would be more boring than an all-Republican P&N. So as self evidence of this truth, P&N's diversity helps keep us away from bubble mentality?

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: sirjonk
I'd rather a president not pick people based on whether they share his views, but whether they have a rational, well reasoned view supported by evidence. Different points of view are required to avoid a bubble mentality.

:thumbsup:

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Originally posted by: sirjonk
I'd rather a president not pick people based on whether they share his views, but whether they have a rational, well reasoned view supported by evidence. Different points of view are required to avoid a bubble mentality.

Nothing would be more boring than an all-Republican P&N. So as self evidence of this truth, P&N's diversity helps keep us away from bubble mentality?

Can't tell if you're being sarcastic, but the answer is yes. I can't stand watching Bill Maher when it's a bunch of yes men on his panel. It's always better when conservatives (with brains) are on the show. Tony Snow had a great appearance, and David Frum always does pretty well. That's tough to do in that house.

 

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: Pabster

Originally posted by: senseamp
So one of your reasons for supporting Obama is that GWB was inexperienced in foreign policy and it worked out so well?

No, I'm saying that being a veteran of diplomacy and foreign policy isn't a necessary pre-requisite for the job. The last few Presidents have proven that. It's who you surround yourself with.

Well, Bush certainly hasn't proven that. It's only about who you surround yourself with if you don't know what you are doing. If you know what you are doing, you surround yourself with people who share your views, not adopt the views of the people you surround yourself with.

In light of that, what are your reasons for supporting your candidate?

 

[Skitzer]

Originally posted by: sirjonk

Originally posted by: Pabster

Originally posted by: bamacre
Pabster is really just preaching to the choir here.

All the polls here at P&N I have seen show that folks here would rather see Obama get the nomination over Hillary. And it's not even close.

Who would have thought...a "right wing" conservative preaching to the choir...about a Democrat! :laugh:

I've said for quite some time that Obama was really the only Democrat I could vote for. And with 9/11 appearing to be a shoe-in for the Republican Nomination, Obama may well earn my vote. I disagree with him on a lot of issues, and I don't think he has the experience - but GWB wasn't exactly a foreign policy veteran when he arrived. And I think he's ran an overwhelmingly positive, clean campaign - despite the constant attacks from Hillary.

How is Giuliani a shoe-in again?

He said "appearing to be"
Personally I believe he will self destruct after he loses in NH. (At least I hope so)