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Obama Joker Poster Popping Up In Los Angeles...

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Originally posted by: SpanishFry
Originally posted by: Atomic Playboy

All this leads me to think is that conservatives just aren't funny.

I agree. Liberals are much better at one sentence taglines and logos than conservatives.

Conservatives are much better at realizing the necessity for fiscal responsibility and not being dependent on a nanny government to provide everything for "free."

And yes, Bush was not very good for conservatives in the fiscal arena. He spent money like a liberal.

Whoops!
 
Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Originally posted by: SpanishFry
Originally posted by: Atomic Playboy

All this leads me to think is that conservatives just aren't funny.

I agree. Liberals are much better at one sentence taglines and logos than conservatives.

Conservatives are much better at realizing the necessity for fiscal responsibility and not being dependent on a nanny government to provide everything for "free."

And yes, Bush was not very good for conservatives in the fiscal arena. He spent money like a liberal.

Whoops!

Oh, he just inherited the good fortune that Reagan and Bush Sr. had been working on 😉
 
Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Originally posted by: SpanishFry
Originally posted by: Atomic Playboy

All this leads me to think is that conservatives just aren't funny.

I agree. Liberals are much better at one sentence taglines and logos than conservatives.

Conservatives are much better at realizing the necessity for fiscal responsibility and not being dependent on a nanny government to provide everything for "free."

And yes, Bush was not very good for conservatives in the fiscal arena. He spent money like a liberal.

Whoops!

Want to fill in the last one? 😉
 
Originally posted by: OCguy
Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Originally posted by: SpanishFry
Originally posted by: Atomic Playboy

All this leads me to think is that conservatives just aren't funny.

I agree. Liberals are much better at one sentence taglines and logos than conservatives.

Conservatives are much better at realizing the necessity for fiscal responsibility and not being dependent on a nanny government to provide everything for "free."

And yes, Bush was not very good for conservatives in the fiscal arena. He spent money like a liberal.

Whoops!

Want to fill in the last one? 😉

And try it with "majority controlled congress"
 
Originally posted by: QueBert
Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: herkulease
Originally posted by: Genx87
You just know people will pull the race card on this one.

I'm waiting to see it too. Its inevitable.

*PAGING QUEBERT*

Why are you paging me? I looked at the poster and it makes no sense, it's not racist, it's not anything but retarded. To be racist I think it would have to have actually been something ummm, racist? I don't see it containing any stereotypes. All I see is a poster that will appeal to confused people who want any reason at all to hate the president.

I'm paging you because you're as closest as we can get to Al Sharpton on ATOT. Now c'mon! Pull the race card and tell us why it's racist.
 
Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Originally posted by: SpanishFry
Originally posted by: Atomic Playboy

All this leads me to think is that conservatives just aren't funny.

I agree. Liberals are much better at one sentence taglines and logos than conservatives.

Conservatives are much better at realizing the necessity for fiscal responsibility and not being dependent on a nanny government to provide everything for "free."

And yes, Bush was not very good for conservatives in the fiscal arena. He spent money like a liberal.

Whoops!

Whoops!

Whoops again!
 
Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
I don't get the joke... is the joker a socialist? I never read the comics but it didn't seem like it in the movies... Or is Heath Ledger a socialist? Honestly I just don't get it. I don't think the guy who made these posters put a lot of thought into it.

I didn't focus on the Joker aspect quite as much, and just looked at it as whoever came up with the image as wanting to project Obamas image as the new face of Socialism...

It wouldn't have the same impact without The Joker angle to it imho...
 
Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: QueBert
Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: herkulease
Originally posted by: Genx87
You just know people will pull the race card on this one.

I'm waiting to see it too. Its inevitable.

*PAGING QUEBERT*

Why are you paging me? I looked at the poster and it makes no sense, it's not racist, it's not anything but retarded. To be racist I think it would have to have actually been something ummm, racist? I don't see it containing any stereotypes. All I see is a poster that will appeal to confused people who want any reason at all to hate the president.

I'm paging you because you're as closest as we can get to Al Sharpton on ATOT. Now c'mon! Pull the race card and tell us why it's racist.

I only do that when it's clear racism exists, nothing to see here move on...
 
Heh

edit: BTW, that was in response to this LA Weekly blog post.

The poster, which bears a very superficial resemblance to Shepard Fairey's famous Obama Hope illustration, has been pasted on freeway supports and other public surfaces. It has a bit of everything to appeal to the drunk tank of California conservatism: Obama is in white face, his mouth (like Ledger's Joker's) has been grotesquely slit wide open and the word "Socialism" appears below his face. [b[The only thing missing is a noose.[/b]
 
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: Slick5150
I'm all for a good joke at any politician's expense, but for the life of me I can't figure out why this is funny. *shrug*

It's funny because it is true. Think about it - joker wanted to destroy society to push his goal of anarchy, obama wants to destroy society to push his goal of socialist utopia.

I'm 10 times more anti-socialist than you could possibly ever imagine yourself to be, spidey, and I'm here to tell you that Obama is NOT a socialist. You oughta look up the meaning of the word. As for this 'destroy society' bullshit... dude, I think you need to take a break. Seriously. McOwen got nothing on you at this point.
 
Originally posted by: WingZero94
More like Fascism, closely related to socialism though. LOL at the picture.

Fascism and socialism are only closely related by their inherent authoritarian natures. Otherwise, they have completely opposite agendas.

I agree, though, that the overall authoritarian tendency of the American govt is towards fascism rather than socialism. And the simple reason for that is that, quite frankly, socialism is bad for generating tax revenues (in that the govt has to tax itself). Fascism OTOH always looks good on paper.

Something I really love about these kind of threads is that it always exposes the naivete of the average partisan, who believes that the entire direction and policy of one of the world's largest and most bureaucratic institutions, namely the US govt, could be reversed almost overnight by a single man. Reality check, people.
 
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: Slick5150
I'm all for a good joke at any politician's expense, but for the life of me I can't figure out why this is funny. *shrug*

It's funny because it is true. Think about it - joker wanted to destroy society to push his goal of anarchy, obama wants to destroy society to push his goal of socialist utopia.

I'm 10 times more anti-socialist than you could possibly ever imagine yourself to be, spidey, and I'm here to tell you that Obama is NOT a socialist. You oughta look up the meaning of the word. As for this 'destroy society' bullshit... dude, I think you need to take a break. Seriously. McOwen got nothing on you at this point.

Socialism - a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole.

Banking - US gov't now majority shareholder in Citibank, holds large stakes in other banks, Fannie, Freddie, Sallie, AIG backstop.

Car companies - US gov't takes control of bankruptcy process, screws bondholders, now majority holder in GM and Chrysler

Healthcare - currently working towards expanding healthcare, with eventual goal of single payer system

Taxes - wants to raise taxes. What are taxes (in our case corporate)? It is a claim on a % of current and future income streams of US corporations. What is a shareholder? A shareholder has claims on a % of current and future income streams of US corporations. What is the corporate tax rate? 35%. The government is effectively 35% shareholder of all US corporations.
 
Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: Slick5150
I'm all for a good joke at any politician's expense, but for the life of me I can't figure out why this is funny. *shrug*

It's funny because it is true. Think about it - joker wanted to destroy society to push his goal of anarchy, obama wants to destroy society to push his goal of socialist utopia.

I'm 10 times more anti-socialist than you could possibly ever imagine yourself to be, spidey, and I'm here to tell you that Obama is NOT a socialist. You oughta look up the meaning of the word. As for this 'destroy society' bullshit... dude, I think you need to take a break. Seriously. McOwen got nothing on you at this point.

Socialism - a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole.

Banking - US gov't now majority shareholder in Citibank, holds large stakes in other banks, Fannie, Freddie, Sallie, AIG backstop.

Car companies - US gov't takes control of bankruptcy process, screws bondholders, now majority holder in GM and Chrysler

Healthcare - currently working towards expanding healthcare, with eventual goal of single payer system

Taxes - wants to raise taxes. What are taxes (in our case corporate)? It is a claim on a % of current and future income streams of US corporations. What is a shareholder? A shareholder has claims on a % of current and future income streams of US corporations. What is the corporate tax rate? 35%. The government is effectively 35% shareholder of all US corporations.

You're an idiot that you can't tell the difference between socialism and fascism, but imagine you know anything about modern politics. All you did here is post some things that socialism and fascism have in common.

The govt isn't assuming permanent ownership and control of the means of production, it's bailing the owners of the means of production out temporarily from their own fsck ups. That you would want them bailed out without paying any penalty whatsoever is what marks you a fascist (well that and your blatant racism and xenophobia, 2 other hallmarks of fascism).

Edit: BTW, when it comes to the bailouts, Obama did nothing more than continue Bush's policies, and which McCain had promised to do even far more than Obama has done. I know that this will be the point that you'll claim to be non-partisan, but you only think you can get away with that because of how bad the search function works here.

Edit2: BTW, single-payer healthcare is not socialism, but textbook fascism. :roll:
 
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: Slick5150
I'm all for a good joke at any politician's expense, but for the life of me I can't figure out why this is funny. *shrug*

It's funny because it is true. Think about it - joker wanted to destroy society to push his goal of anarchy, obama wants to destroy society to push his goal of socialist utopia.

I'm 10 times more anti-socialist than you could possibly ever imagine yourself to be, spidey, and I'm here to tell you that Obama is NOT a socialist. You oughta look up the meaning of the word. As for this 'destroy society' bullshit... dude, I think you need to take a break. Seriously. McOwen got nothing on you at this point.

Socialism - a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole.

Banking - US gov't now majority shareholder in Citibank, holds large stakes in other banks, Fannie, Freddie, Sallie, AIG backstop.

Car companies - US gov't takes control of bankruptcy process, screws bondholders, now majority holder in GM and Chrysler

Healthcare - currently working towards expanding healthcare, with eventual goal of single payer system

Taxes - wants to raise taxes. What are taxes (in our case corporate)? It is a claim on a % of current and future income streams of US corporations. What is a shareholder? A shareholder has claims on a % of current and future income streams of US corporations. What is the corporate tax rate? 35%. The government is effectively 35% shareholder of all US corporations.

You're an idiot that you can't tell the difference between socialism and fascism, but imagine you know anything about modern politics. All you did here is post some things that socialism and fascism have in common.

The govt isn't assuming permanent ownership and control of the means of production, it's bailing the owners of the means of production out temporarily from their own fsck ups. That you would want them bailed out without paying any penalty whatsoever is what marks you a fascist (well that and your blatant racism and xenophobia, 2 other hallmarks of fascism).

Let's revisit in 6 months when the gov't still owns banks, car companies, is a backstop for failed financial institutions, and government has a claim on 35% of corporate income streams. I was posting real life examples of how Obama is a socialist through his policies and actions and you call me an idiot and a racist facist.
 
Originally posted by: JS80
Let's revisit in 6 months when the gov't still owns banks, car companies, is a backstop for failed financial institutions, and government has a claim on 35% of corporate income streams. I was posting real life examples of how Obama is a socialist through his policies and actions and you call me an idiot and a racist facist.

Were those banks and car companies worth anything when the govt 'bought' them? Or would they not have all failed utterly if not for govt intervention? That alone should tell you which direction the money flowed here. Govt didn't 'seize the wealth of industry' here. Quite the opposite. Now, if you have the slightest ability for objective thought, why don't you tell us how socialist that is?
 
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: JS80
Let's revisit in 6 months when the gov't still owns banks, car companies, is a backstop for failed financial institutions, and government has a claim on 35% of corporate income streams. I was posting real life examples of how Obama is a socialist through his policies and actions and you call me an idiot and a racist facist.

Were those banks and car companies worth anything when the govt 'bought' them? Or would they not have all failed utterly if not for govt intervention? That alone should tell you which direction the money flowed here. Govt didn't 'seize the wealth of industry' here. Quite the opposite. Now, if you have the slightest ability for objective thought, why don't you tell us how socialist that is?

How is govt intervening and forcing a financial solution whereby they become majority shareholders not the same as "seizing" industry? Regardless it does not require the govt to seize for the action to be socialist.

The car companies should have bankrupted, and all the banks nationalized and immediately spun off. That would have been the "correct" non-socialist solution. Now you have majority shareholder govt dictating bonuses and whom to loan and what cars to build, with uncertainty on how or when they will divest. That's how socialist it is.
 
Originally posted by: Vic
/facepalm

Obama is the worst president ever, he wasn't even born in the USA so he shouldn't be President. You should sign our petition to get him out of office asap. He has evil plans to totally destroy the US before his term is up.

Oh yeah, and he killed my cat and ate the last bowl of my Cinnamon Toast Crunch!

/tinfoilhat

 
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