Obama Has Brought Us to ‘Constitutional Tipping Point’

[boomerang]

Yeh, citing a raving opinion piece from the Stinker merely confirms the depth of right wing indoctrination & fear. Lifson is the same nutcase who goes on about Obama "bowing" to Saudi royalty, but he makes a nice living from the Stinker's advertising revenues, hucksterizing the gullible.

That would be you.

You're a head case Jhhnn. You've got mental health care coverage through Obamacare. Use it.

 

[michal1980]

I know what you mean..."you're either with us, or you're against us", oh wait, that was Bush.

Obama is worse.

At least with Bush it was america vs others.

Obama is either your a democrat, or your a terrorist.

 

[werepossum]

You have proven once again to be a good Obama minion. You shall now advance to the next level and unlock many more flavors of Kool Aid.

LAMO! +1

You're a head case Jhhnn. You've got mental health care coverage through Obamacare. Use it.

LOL If he could understand he needs it, he wouldn't need it.

Well - he wouldn't need it as much. Maybe. Hard to know for sure what's under all that foam.

 

[boomerang]

Good enough for thee, but not for me.

For lawmakers, an O-Care escape option

This year, members of Congress and thousands of their staffers are finally signing up for health insurance provided by an ObamaCare exchange, fulfilling their commitment to live under the same system that millions of other Americans will use.

But unlike those millions of Americans, members and staff have a way to opt out of ObamaCare — retirement.

Under a rule issued by the Office of Personnel Management (OPM) late last year, members and staff who retire will be able to revert back to health coverage under the Federal Employees Health Benefits Program (FEHBP). That's the same coverage thousands of other federal workers can use when they retire.

 

[MagickMan]

That's willful ignorance & denial.

Google "Republican Obstructionism". Wikipedia uses current Repub tactics to define the term, "Obstructionism".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obstructionism

Perhaps the most distressing part of all of this is just how well indoctrinated Righties can ignore factual information. If I covered the page with charts, links, & graphs, they'd have zero influence on your opinion. That's because you already believe to the contrary, independent of any facts whatsoever, and you probably always will.

Talk about ignorance? You didn't post any proof at all, just more rhetoric. What irony.

 

[MagickMan]

LOL...your looking forward to my answer, oooo aren't I special, lol...My answer : blow me, you must think I have time, or give a shit to google a bunch of Bush's executive order's so I can argue with a wingnut on a message board..lol.

Then move along, little troll bitch. Go ask your mommy to make you some fucking cocoa.

 

[boomerang]

Talk about ignorance? You didn't post any proof at all, just more rhetoric. What irony.

That's his M.O. lately. In post 124 I quoted an article. He attacked the author, he attacked the source, he attacked me. The premise of the article has since proven to be true. But he had nothing to say about the content of the article.

He has the potential to be the most dangerous of the dangerous. Because what his ideal world would entail is no first amendment freedom. Freedom of the press would not exist. He wants state controlled media in which people only hear what the state feels they need to hear and of course with the appropriate spin on it.

This is nearly the most juvenile of the arguments I hear from the progressive left. They are so caught up in their feelings of superiority that they fear that the lesser beings thoughts will be adversely affected by what they read. So that must be controlled.

I'm certain that his name is among the officers of the Communist Party USA.

 

[werepossum]

That's his M.O. lately. In post 124 I quoted an article. He attacked the author, he attacked the source, he attacked me. The premise of the article has since proven to be true. But he had nothing to say about the content of the article.

He has the potential to be the most dangerous of the dangerous. Because what his ideal world would entail is no first amendment freedom. Freedom of the press would not exist. He wants state controlled media in which people only hear what the state feels they need to hear and of course with the appropriate spin on it.

This is nearly the most juvenile of the arguments I hear from the progressive left. They are so caught up in their feelings of superiority that they fear that the lesser beings thoughts will be adversely affected by what they read. So that must be controlled.

I'm certain that his name is among the officers of the Communist Party USA.

Useful idiots, certainly, but officers? Surely even the Communist Party USA has smarter officers.

 

[ivwshane]

You have proven once again to be a good Obama minion. You shall now advance to the next level and unlock many more flavors of Kool Aid.

As expected, you've got nothing, no counter evidence, not even an attempt. Quite pathetic really.

I guess when given facts it's easier to dismiss them by saying it's coming from an "Obama minion", than to face the reality that what you have been lead to believe has been a lie.

Good boy parrot. Or is it a sheep? What do you call someone who blindly repeats talking points and follows people who lie to them? I know you call yourself Matt but I'm looking for the more generalized term.

 

[ivwshane]

Talk about ignorance? You didn't post any proof at all, just more rhetoric. What irony.

Uh...you want counter proof to an opinion piece about a rumor? Why would you need proof? You certainly didn't need any when you read an article that jived with your gut feelings.

 

[boomerang]

Useful idiots, certainly, but officers? Surely even the Communist Party USA has smarter officers.

You're right of course. I got wound up there at the end. A useful idiot being controlled with promises of ever increasing power within the party.

 

[piasabird]

Its my way or the highway. Lets arrest a few more reporters.

Just use the NSA to spy on people who don't support us. Then we can have the FBI investigate them. After that a few IRS audits will help to discourage others from sticking their necks out.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

These are great threads. Never have I seen so many pots and kettles

 

[Jaskalas]

These are great threads. Never have I seen so many pots and kettles

We call those election years.

 

[Jhhnn]

Good enough for thee, but not for me.

For lawmakers, an O-Care escape option

Is that plan ACA compliant? Gosh, I bet it is. Just like all employer based plans will be rather shortly. I wonder how much it costs, bottom line to participants. Likely more for high earners than the exchanges, huh?

And, uhh, that means they won't be eligible for ACA subsidies when they retire, right?

This benefits congressional staffers how, exactly? What do they gain?

 

[Jhhnn]

Talk about ignorance? You didn't post any proof at all, just more rhetoric. What irony.

Heh. Wikipedia uses current Repub tactics as a way to define *obstructionism*. It's like saying that the sky is blue & water is wet.

Oh, you probably want charts, graphs & specific examples, the same ones you've disregarded dozens of times in the past. You must have, in order to maintain your position at all.

It's all right here-

https://www.google.com/search?q=Rep...ionism&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&spell=1

 

[Jhhnn]

You're a head case Jhhnn. You've got mental health care coverage through Obamacare. Use it.

That's his M.O. lately. In post 124 I quoted an article. He attacked the author, he attacked the source, he attacked me. The premise of the article has since proven to be true. But he had nothing to say about the content of the article.

Uhh, the article is dated today, March 4 2014. How could the allegations have now been proven true w/o any announcement whatsoever? The article is rank speculation & rabble rousing, which you seem to be able to claim as factual in some way.

What salient facts are contained in that article, anyway?

He has the potential to be the most dangerous of the dangerous. Because what his ideal world would entail is no first amendment freedom. Freedom of the press would not exist. He wants state controlled media in which people only hear what the state feels they need to hear and of course with the appropriate spin on it.

This is nearly the most juvenile of the arguments I hear from the progressive left. They are so caught up in their feelings of superiority that they fear that the lesser beings thoughts will be adversely affected by what they read. So that must be controlled.

I'm certain that his name is among the officers of the Communist Party USA.

Heh. When busted, just start screaming about Merricuh! Freedumb! & Commies!

I don't dispute your right to disseminate disinformational right wing agitprop, at all. I dispute your right to do so unchallenged.

 

[werepossum]

Uhh, the article is dated today, March 4 2014. How could the allegations have now been proven true w/o any announcement whatsoever? The article is rank speculation & rabble rousing, which you seem to be able to claim as factual in some way.

What salient facts are contained in that article, anyway?



Heh. When busted, just start screaming about Merricuh! Freedumb! & Commies!

I don't dispute your right to disseminate disinformational right wing agitprop, at all. I dispute your right to do so unchallenged.

Unfortunately, while you have the right to challenge his posts you apparently lack the ability.

 

[MagickMan]

Uh...you want counter proof to an opinion piece about a rumor? Why would you need proof? You certainly didn't need any when you read an article that jived with your gut feelings.

I'm looking forward to the USSC's reactions to Obama's EOs relating to the ACA, and the 4 other suits making their way to them. When/if they find him in breach of the Constitution, you know what it's within their power to do? They don't just take out the parts that Obama edited in these laws, no they can't do that, they nullify the entire thing and make the legislature work on it again... or it simply sits there, dead. That's going to be something to see, right there.

Heh. Wikipedia uses current Repub tactics as a way to define *obstructionism*. It's like saying that the sky is blue & water is wet.

Oh, you probably want charts, graphs & specific examples, the same ones you've disregarded dozens of times in the past. You must have, in order to maintain your position at all.

It's all right here-

https://www.google.com/search?q=Rep...ionism&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&spell=1

Oh, it's been hard for him? Poor little thing! He shouldn't have to work with those mean old Repubs, how dare they challenge his vision for his country? Talk with them? Try to reconcile? Fuck that! Why worry with the law when he can just pull out a pen and order up what you want? It's not like it's his job to try and reach a bipartisan solution... Like Clinton did, over, and over, and over again.

Here's a Google search for you: https://www.google.com/search?sclient=psy-ab&q=obama+lawsuit+executive+order

 

[Jhhnn]

I'm looking forward to the USSC's reactions to Obama's EOs relating to the ACA, and the 4 other suits making their way to them. When/if they find him in breach of the Constitution, you know what it's within their power to do? They don't just take out the parts that Obama edited in these laws, no they can't do that, they nullify the entire thing and make the legislature work on it again... or it simply sits there, dead. That's going to be something to see, right there.

Dream on. The ACA has already met Constitutional muster.

Oh, it's been hard for him? Poor little thing! He shouldn't have to work with those mean old Repubs, how dare they challenge his vision for his country? Talk with them? Try to reconcile? Fuck that! Why worry with the law when he can just pull out a pen and order up what you want? It's not like it's his job to try and reach a bipartisan solution... Like Clinton did, over, and over, and over again.

Here's a Google search for you: https://www.google.com/search?sclient=psy-ab&q=obama+lawsuit+executive+order

Being unable to deny that Repubs are obstructionist, you now rave as if they really weren't, as if it's all Obama's fault, as usual.

What part of "If the voters won't pick us to run the country, we'll be damned if we'll let anybody else do it" are you failing to comprehend? How does one reason with a minority leader who filibusters his own bill minutes after introducing it?

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-december-10-2012/mitch-mcconnell-s-self-filibuster

Or perhaps you're having trouble deciphering the "Burn it down!" message from the teatards? Gee, what does it mean?

 

[Jhhnn]

Unfortunately, while you have the right to challenge his posts you apparently lack the ability.

I can't claim to be able to make sense to those indoctrinated to a state beyond reason, one where they operate of Faith alone. They head right down the rabbit hole of Denial, as you are.

 

[werepossum]

I'm looking forward to the USSC's reactions to Obama's EOs relating to the ACA, and the 4 other suits making their way to them. When/if they find him in breach of the Constitution, you know what it's within their power to do? They don't just take out the parts that Obama edited in these laws, no they can't do that, they nullify the entire thing and make the legislature work on it again... or it simply sits there, dead. That's going to be something to see, right there.

Oh, it's been hard for him? Poor little thing! He shouldn't have to work with those mean old Repubs, how dare they challenge his vision for his country? Talk with them? Try to reconcile? Fuck that! Why worry with the law when he can just pull out a pen and order up what you want? It's not like it's his job to try and reach a bipartisan solution... Like Clinton did, over, and over, and over again.

Here's a Google search for you: https://www.google.com/search?sclient=psy-ab&q=obama+lawsuit+executive+order

I really wish the GOP had not chosen to take Obama to court over his ACA executive orders. If Obama wins, we've effectively established a dictator. If Obama loses, we're stuck with being required by law to comply with a law to which government cannot possibly process everyone. Only way we don't lose is if SCOTUS refuses to hear the case. I'm all for taking him to court on executive orders in general, and I hope (though do not expect) that the GOP will remember these principles if/when we ever have another Republican President, but I wish they'd leave be the ACA orders - even though it's cost me my own health insurance.

 

[Jhhnn]

I really wish the GOP had not chosen to take Obama to court over his ACA executive orders. If Obama wins, we've effectively established a dictator.

The Sky Is Falling! the Sky Is Falling!

Why, Obama is just an executive order away from appointing himself Presidente for Life! Honest! True Story!

Either you just love spreading the FUD, or you live in a state of fear that must be almost unbearable.

 

[boomerang]

Uhh, the article is dated today, March 4 2014. How could the allegations have now been proven true w/o any announcement whatsoever? The article is rank speculation & rabble rousing, which you seem to be able to claim as factual in some way.

What salient facts are contained in that article, anyway?



Heh. When busted, just start screaming about Merricuh! Freedumb! & Commies!

I don't dispute your right to disseminate disinformational right wing agitprop, at all. I dispute your right to do so unchallenged.

There is no method to your madness, it's just madness. IMO, you've got yourself too enmeshed in an administration that deep down you know is failing and failing such that there is a very real possibility of a shift of power in November. My advice, and I'm fully aware that you don't want it, is to try and understand that the pendulum swings in this country from a political perspective and right now it's swinging away from the party you cherish.

Your response to werepossum above this one the rest of us see as a warning sign and is further proof of what I'm saying. Lord knows I'm guilty of going off half-cocked around here, but virtually every post of yours has no content whatsoever. It didn't use to be like that.

 

[Moonbeam]

This all amounts to the conservative brain defect acting defectively. They have painted themselves into a bubble and can't see reality.