Obama: Government tyranny is impossible because govt is us.

[Anarchist420]

He knows 70% of eligible voters didn't consent to his re-election, yet he has to lie about shit like that.

Why did he say that I am the government?

I'm offended because I don't murder or steal.

Link.

 

[HomerJS]

Confucious say...

statistics pulled out of your ass tends to be brown and smell

 

[Capt Caveman]

Why did he say that I am the government?

He wasn't. He was talking about non-retards.

 

[CitizenKain]

He knows 70% of eligible voters didn't consent to his re-election, yet he has to lie about shit like that.

Pretty sure he won the election, so the voters did consent to his re-election. So why are you lying about that? Besides you being a dishonest person.

 

[Sonikku]

Obama did steal the election though. Fox News was all but swearing up and down Romney would win in a power house landslide win for months. Yet Romney still lost. Clearly the only explanation is the Dems cheated the vote.

 

[Anarchist420]

statistics pulled out of your ass tends to be brown and smell

Have you ever bothered putting "2012 voter turnout percentage" into your search engine? I did.

Pretty sure he won the election, so the voters did consent to his re-election. So why are you lying about that? Besides you being a dishonest person.

I'm not lying. The voter turnout was ~58%, and he only got ~51% of those voters. So actually a more than 7 in 10 eligible voters did not consent to him being re-elected.

 

[ivwshane]

Have you ever bothered putting "2012 voter turnout percentage" into your search engine? I did.

I'm not lying. The voter turnout was ~58%, and he only got ~51% of those voters. So actually a more than 7 in 10 eligible voters did not consent to him being re-elected.

You automatically give your consent when you fail to exercise your right to vote.

Anyone else feel sorry for the OP?

 

[Phanuel]

You just don't understand things, got it.

Pro-tip; if people don't turn out to vote, they don't vote and thus are neither consenting to or dissenting against the popular opinion of those who did vote.

 

[Anarchist420]

These States united were founded on consent required to be governed and dissent against tyrants rather than the silence (or non-silence) of the governed.

You automatically give your consent when you fail to exercise your right to vote.

Pro-tip; if people don't turn out to vote, they don't vote and thus are neither consenting to or dissenting against the popular opinion of those who did vote.

 

[sunzt]

These States united were founded on consent required to be governed and dissent against tyrants rather than the silence (or non-silence) of the governed.

silence/non-participation <> disapproval nor consent

at best, silence/non-participation means apathy.

 

[Smoblikat]

The government is us..............we are here for the government. Welcome to communism gentlemen. If you need me I will be greasing my AK.

 

[Juror No. 8]

Intelligent, perceptive people understand that democracy and representative government in America are myths. Only stupid, ignorant people and children believe in that stuff. The corporate media controls public perception of political issues, candidates, and policies. This means the corporate media has the power to dictate the outcome of elections. So whoever owns and controls the media, controls America. It's really that simple.

The ruling elites in every "democratic" society understand this reality. Only the peons, peasants, and slaves believe the politicians represent them.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

You just don't understand things, got it.

Pro-tip; if people don't turn out to vote, they don't vote and thus are neither consenting to or dissenting against the popular opinion of those who did vote.

Let's see. You didn't have any choice if you were Democrat and a choice of those vetted by the Republican party. Pick from the list and no substitution. The illusion of votes mattering. Cow shit or horse shit still stinks. And we have nothing to worry about, don't worry about the NDAA or SOPA or warrantless wiretaps. You can always find out if the NSA is wiretapping illegally in the US. Oh no you can't. But never fear. You must want this since he's the government and the government is you. You could always have elected a party and candidates who wouldn't hear of such things. Sure you could have.

 

[Slick5150]

Yeah, Lincoln was such a communist asshole when he spoke of "A Government of the people, by the people and for the people."

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

It's not the "us" that's the problem with government, it's all those "thems" that are a part of it too.

 

[ivwshane]

Let's see. You didn't have any choice if you were Democrat and a choice of those vetted by the Republican party. Pick from the list and no substitution. The illusion of votes mattering. Cow shit or horse shit still stinks. And we have nothing to worry about, don't worry about the NDAA or SOPA or warrantless wiretaps. You can always find out if the NSA is wiretapping illegally in the US. Oh no you can't. But never fear. You must want this since he's the government and the government is you. You could always have elected a party and candidates who wouldn't hear of such things. Sure you could have.

And there is nothing you can do about it so you should go live in a hole somewhere where the gubment won't find you. Oh and don't forget to bring a bunch of guns just in case the black helicopters find you.


/s

Anyone who thinks government by the people will be perfect and do no wrong or wont do things some of its citizens don't agree with are idiots, plane and simple.

 

[Munky]

More feel-good tripe used to assuage the ignorant masses. Where have I heard that before? From statements like "We owe the deficit to ourselves" perpetuated by certain clowns who would love to pretend that deficits don't matter.

If the government is "us" then I suppose it was really "us" who taxes each other and spends other people's money. It's "us" who would rather send rifles to Mexican drug cartels instead of allowing US citizens to own them. It's "us" who gives banks the bailout and refuses to prosecute financial fraud, including that homeless guy lying on the bench... yeah, according to some know-it-all smartass, it was really us.

 

[ivwshane]

More feel-good tripe used to assuage the ignorant masses. Where have I heard that before? From statements like "We owe the deficit to ourselves" perpetuated by certain clowns who would love to pretend that deficits don't matter.

If the government is "us" then I suppose it was really "us" who taxes each other and spends other people's money. It's "us" who would rather send rifles to Mexican drug cartels instead of allowing US citizens to own them. It's "us" who gives banks the bailout and refuses to prosecute financial fraud, including that homeless guy lying on the bench... yeah, according to some know-it-all smartass, it was really us.

Yes it is, you just don't like looking in the mirror.

 

[Munky]

Yes it is, you just don't like looking in the mirror.

In the twisted mind of a leftist loon, it was probably me who said what you heard Obama say. I'm expecting my $400K salary and personal bodyguards any moment now.

 

[shadow9d9]

In the twisted mind of a leftist loon, it was probably me who said what you heard Obama say. I'm expecting my $400K salary and personal bodyguards any moment now.

There are no "leftists" in US politics... just middle/right dems and off the cliff right Reps.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

And there is nothing you can do about it so you should go live in a hole somewhere where the gubment won't find you. Oh and don't forget to bring a bunch of guns just in case the black helicopters find you.


/s

Anyone who thinks government by the people will be perfect and do no wrong or wont do things some of its citizens don't agree with are idiots, plane and simple.

Not your best response. Perhaps the concerns I list are trivial to you, and that's your business, however if you find my characterization of the election offensive or whatever I really don't care as you'll have the devil of a time explaining how we have a real choice. That we have a wide selection from the marketplace of ideas. That parties don't use their power to keep others from threatening their duopoly. Sure you can say that. You can say that those concerned with Diane Feinstein wanting to make sure we can't know about illegal wiretaps isn't real. You can appeal to black helicopters to discredit those who do find that disconcerting as you already have, but I've presented real examples and you may malign but you won't be able to refute it.

 

[ivwshane]

Not your best response. Perhaps the concerns I list are trivial to you, and that's your business, however if you find my characterization of the election offensive or whatever I really don't care as you'll have the devil of a time explaining how we have a real choice. That we have a wide selection from the marketplace of ideas. That parties don't use their power to keep others from threatening their duopoly. Sure you can say that. You can say that those concerned with Diane Feinstein wanting to make sure we can't know about illegal wiretaps isn't real. You can appeal to black helicopters to discredit those who do find that disconcerting as you already have, but I've presented real examples and you may malign but you won't be able to refute it.

Refute what? Something a minority of people are concerned about? Sorry but more people are in favor of those things that those that aren't. Don't like it? Then start campaigning against them, that's how democracy works (as well as a republic).

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Refute what? Something a minority of people are concerned about? Sorry but more people are in favor of those things that those that aren't. Don't like it? Then start campaigning against them, that's how democracy works (as well as a republic).

Wouldn't that be nice? Someone who isn't part of the party machine becoming President. Teddy Roosevelt! Yeah that's going to happen again except the money in political machines isn't going to let that happen. No such thing? That's right, there is. Speaking of the majority being for illegal wiretaps- could you find that or how the majority favor it? That we should not be allowed to know if we're a victim of illegal acts? That would be useful. Of course you could say that being elected means that any action would be viewed as approved before the public could know about them. Clarvoyance isn't something often attributed to the general population. It seems as if you have only a deep devotion to the status quo, ignoring reality for time honored tradition. If it's a Hobson's choice it qualifies as the will of the people being expressed free of external influence. Well you can say such a thing but appeals to ignorance or magical thinking won't make it true. Your perspective does make you useful though so you have that going for you.

 

[ivwshane]

Wouldn't that be nice? Someone who isn't part of the party machine becoming President. Teddy Roosevelt! Yeah that's going to happen again except the money in political machines isn't going to let that happen. No such thing? That's right, there is. Speaking of the majority being for illegal wiretaps- could you find that or how the majority favor it? That we should not be allowed to know if we're a victim of illegal acts? That would be useful. Of course you could say that being elected means that any action would be viewed as approved before the public could know about them. Clarvoyance isn't something often attributed to the general population. It seems as if you have only a deep devotion to the status quo, ignoring reality for time honored tradition. If it's a Hobson's choice it qualifies as the will of the people being expressed free of external influence. Well you can say such a thing but appeals to ignorance or magical thinking won't make it true. Your perspective does make you useful though so you have that going for you.

And this is where your ignorance is highlighted. Not by what your views are but that your views don't allow for facts and that your immediate response is to attack me instead of acknowledging the truth. You confuse the facts as if I wrote them and agree with those that support actions you do not when in reality I have made no such statements. You simply don't like America because Americans don't agree with you and it must not agree with you because it's broken and corrupted by money, according to you. And while there may be some truth to it, most people generally don't agree that scraping it is the way to go, no most people understand how this country works and it works in many different ways, ways in which you seem to have forgotten or don't think is worth your time.

But to answer your question of how I know who supports it, here is your answer:

from 2004
http://www.gallup.com/poll/10858/Americans-Generally-Comfortable-Patriot-Act.aspx

from 2011
http://www.pewresearch.org/2011/02/15/public-remains-divided-over-the-patriot-act/

We get the government we vote for, the government represents us as a whole, not just you. If you have a problem with government then you have a problem with the American people and the last thing people want to hear is how the system doesn't work that currently represents them and a majority of their views.

 

[shortylickens]

Wow, I didnt think obama could do anything to make me hate him more.

Good job brah.