Obama goes to bat for iran

[Texashiker]

Obama to make plea against new sanctions against iran.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...ersonal-appeal-to-senators-on-iran-sanctions/

What a sad state of affairs we have gotten ourselves in. Not only do we have an islamic sympathizer in office, we have a president who hates this nation and its people.

Yea, lets not give iran any more sanctions so they can continue nuclear development.

This is like clinton not ordering bin laden killed back in the 1990s. Clinton could have saved a lot of lives by killing one person. Who knows how many lives will be lost to a nuclear strike 10 years from now.

Do democrats protect terrorist by accident, or do they do it on purpose?

Bin laden served his purpose, so obama had him killed. Now its onto bigger and better things, such as nukes.

 

[zinfamous]

Obama to make plea against new sanctions against iran.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...ersonal-appeal-to-senators-on-iran-sanctions/

What a sad state of affairs we have gotten ourselves in. Not only do we have an islamic sympathizer in office, we have a president who hates this nation and its people.

Yea, lets not give iran any more sanctions so they can continue nuclear development.

This is like clinton not ordering bin laden killed back in the 1990s. Clinton could have saved a lot of lives by killing one person. Who knows how many lives will be lost to a nuclear strike 10 years from now.

Do democrats protect terrorist by accident, or do they do it on purpose?

Bin laden served his purpose, so obama had him killed. Now its onto bigger and better things, such as nukes.

Oh, you're on a role these days.

Also, Clinton did order the death of bin Laden. Turns out, he was not where he was supposed to be when those missiles blew up that Tylenol factory, or whatever it was. So, yeah, one gets flack for striking a "seemingly harmless" target and ignores the reasoning behind it.

 

[Texashiker]

Also, Clinton did order the death of bin Laden. Turns out, he was not where he was supposed to be when those missiles blew up that Tylenol factory, or whatever it was. So, yeah, one gets flack for striking a "seemingly harmless" target and ignores the reasoning behind it.

It seems clinton missed a bunch of chances to have bin laden killed.

Who knows, maybe if he killed enough people billy could have won himself a peace prize like obama?

 

[Jaskalas]

It's more like North Korea part 2.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

It takes a special blend of jaw-droppingly crazy and mind-fuckingly stupid to explicitly state that a sitting President "hates this nation and its people." When you venture that far from rational thought, there's no point even attempting discussion. You aren't looking for discussion, you're just looking to rant and rave and rage and turn some perceived ill into the worst travesty of justice the world has ever seen, and all you do is pollute these forums with hyperbole and nonsense.

 

[Anarchist420]

Obama to make plea against new sanctions against iran. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...ran-sanctions/ What a sad state of affairs we have gotten ourselves in. Not only do we have an islamic sympathizer in office, we have a president who hates this nation and its people. Yea, lets not give iran any more sanctions so they can continue nuclear development. This is like clinton not ordering bin laden killed back in the 1990s. Clinton could have saved a lot of lives by killing one person. Who knows how many lives will be lost to a nuclear strike 10 years from now. Do democrats protect terrorist by accident, or do they do it on purpose? Bin laden served his purpose, so obama had him killed. Now its onto bigger and better things, such as nukes.

why shouldnt iran be allowed to have nukes? why should the u.s. govt be allowed to have them?

has iran ever threatened to impose sharia on america?

and you're completely clueless about bin laden too because bin laden didnt do anything to americans... he said he respected the American and that the problems were a shadow govt and our unpatriotic leaders.

it saddens me (not just me though) that so many people dont realize that truth is treason in the empire of lies.

why would bush not have had bin laden killed if bin laden was "the mastermind"? why did he say in 3/02 that he didnt care about bin laden? why did fox news report that it was reported that bin laden died in '01? how could it be merely coincidental that norad stood down only on that day? if there was no foreknowledge of operation 9/11, then why was an unusually high level of high frequency trading going on a week or so before? if there was no foreknowledge of 9/11, then why did larry silverstein wait until 7/01 to buy an insurance policy on a building he had already owned for a few years? why was bush in florida the morning it happened? why was bush acting like he was on drugs the morning it happened?
what was the goal of pnac (as of which dick cheney was a member of) if not to cause a pearl harbor for the 21st century? did dick cheney really care more about the people than about making a profit off the wars?

 

[Anarchist420]

It takes a special blend of jaw-droppingly crazy and mind-fuckingly stupid to explicitly state that a sitting President "hates this nation and its people." When you venture that far from rational thought, there's no point even attempting discussion. You aren't looking for discussion, you're just looking to rant and rave and rage and turn some perceived ill into the worst travesty of justice the world has ever seen, and all you do is pollute these forums with hyperbole and nonsense.

haven't most presidents cared a lot more about themselves than the people? dont they get secret service protection and a shitload of money extracted from the people by threats of violence for being president? isnt the presidency a job where they get to make things the way they want them to be?

 

[Texashiker]

It takes a special blend of jaw-droppingly crazy and mind-fuckingly stupid to explicitly state that a sitting President "hates this nation and its people." When you venture that far from rational thought, there's no point even attempting discussion. You aren't looking for discussion, you're just looking to rant and rave and rage and turn some perceived ill into the worst travesty of justice the world has ever seen, and all you do is pollute these forums with hyperbole and nonsense.

Rather than debating the message, you attack the messenger.

Obama is beating around he bush so much on iran, Israel and Saudi Arabia are talking about teaming up on iran.

And not only is obama stalling with iran, he is asking for no more new sanctions.

Are loyal democrats blind, stupid, or both?

 

[Fayd]

Rather than debating the message, you attack the messenger.

Obama is beating around he bush so much on iran, Israel and Saudi Arabia are talking about teaming up on iran.

that's not necessarily a bad thing.

 

[fskimospy]

Rather than debating the message, you attack the messenger.

Obama is beating around he bush so much on iran, Israel and Saudi Arabia are talking about teaming up on iran.

Israel and Saudi Arabia already team up on Iran.

He attacked your message and you as the messenger. Your message was insane and idiotic, and he felt that anyone making a post so completely divorced from reality was also insane and idiotic. It is difficult or impossible to have a discussion with someone who would be foolish enough to believe that the President of the United States hates his own nation and people.

If you withdraw your statements about that and apologize for your inappropriate and ignorant comments I'm sure we can have a rational discussion about the merits of engaging with Iran instead of pursuing further sanctions.

 

[Texashiker]

that's not necessarily a bad thing.

You are right, it may not be a bad thing.

But what is a bad thing is obama isolating israel.

There is a news story today saying the obama administration has been negotiating with iran over sanctions for a year. A deal has already been reached.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/201...already-struck-directly-with-valerie-jarrett/

If you withdraw your statements about that and apologize for your inappropriate and ignorant comments I'm sure we can have a rational discussion about the merits of engaging with Iran instead of pursuing further sanctions.

Another loyal democrat joins the conversation.

Israel and Saudi Arabia already team up on Iran.

When have israel and Saudi Arabia done joint military strikes against iran?

obama has abandoned israel to the possibility of a nuclear iran.

 

[K1052]

Iran will eventually become nuclear capable regardless of further sanctions imposed. Many nations have breakout capacity or the technological expertise to achieve capability in relatively short order. Freezing their development at a certain stage and giving economic incentives not to pursue it is a longer term solution than anything else on the table.

 

[fskimospy]

Another loyal democrat joins the conversation.

I like how immediately complaining about people attacking the messenger you... attack the messenger.

Are you refusing to take back and/or apologize for your earlier crazy remarks?

When have israel and Saudi Arabia done joint military strikes against iran?

obama has abandoned israel to the possibility of a nuclear iran.

Obama is doing more to protect Israel's interests vis a vis Iran right now than Israel's foolish and shortsighted leadership.

 

[Texashiker]

Are you refusing to take back and/or apologize for your earlier crazy remarks?

Why should I apologize for speaking the truth?

If anything, all of you crazy democrats should apologize for electing obama not only once, but twice.

 

[thraashman]

Texashiker, you seriously get dumber with every post. The President asking Congress to not fuck up negotiations is a perfectly reasonable request. Though it's been clear for some time you are anything but reasonable ... or rational, intelligent, sane, humane ...

 

[Texashiker]

Though it's been clear for some time you are anything but humane ...

I will have you know my wife and I setup a wildlife feeder to help animals get through the winter months, and we put table scraps out for raccoons and opossums.

Just yesterday my wife and I dumped a big bowl of leftovers about a hundred yards behind the house. I sure it was gone by this morning. Cracked eggs are also put out for raccoons and opossums.

I have done more for the wild animals who live in the woods behind my house, than obama has done for the homeless and needy of this nation.

 

[sm625]

Yea, lets not give iran any more sanctions so they can continue nuclear development.

This is like clinton not ordering bin laden killed back in the 1990s. Clinton could have saved a lot of lives by killing one person. Who knows how many lives will be lost to a nuclear strike 10 years from now.

STUPIDITY ALERT. It's not gonna be Iran that causes millions to be irradiated. It is someone as dumb as you working in an agency such the NRC who is so frickin mentally damaged that he cannot even do his job competently. As a result, safety standards lapse. Then an anticipated natural disaster strikes and next thing you know we have a fukushima. This brand of stupid is far more fatal than 2 dozen bogeymen in caves.

 

[brycejones]

I will have you know my wife and I setup a wildlife feeder to help animals get through the winter months, and we put table scraps out for raccoons and opossums.

Just yesterday my wife and I dumped a big bowl of leftovers about a hundred yards behind the house. I sure it was gone by this morning. Cracked eggs are also put out for raccoons and opossums.

I have done more for the wild animals who live in the woods behind my house, than obama has done for the homeless and needy of this nation.

Have you been drinking instead of working today?

About the original subject of this thread before you went all Grizzly Adams on us....

The whack job who was the president of Iran is no longer in office there is a new guy who so far has indicated a different tone and willingness to potentially reach a negotiated settlement. All the administration is asking for at this point is to see if there is a real opportunity to resolve the current ongoing crisis or not. Now pulling a dick move and doubling down on sanctions (which is what McCain wants to do) when the subject of those sanctions is claiming they are ready to come to the table is a poor move if we ultimately want a diplomatic solution.

If the new guy turns out to be the same as last guy then by all means look for ways to ratchet it up the pressure. Until then see if there is a window to resolve this mess in a way that doesn't involve the use of our military to bomb another country in the Middle East.

 

[zinfamous]

Rather than debating the message, you attack the messenger.

Obama is beating around he bush so much on iran, Israel and Saudi Arabia are talking about teaming up on iran.

And not only is obama stalling with iran, he is asking for no more new sanctions.

Are loyal democrats blind, stupid, or both?

what message? You've offered nothing more than blind speculation and innuendo.

Messages that are worth debating tend to be based on evidence, facts, data...that sort of thing.

Your idea of a message comes served from a tin foil bowl.

 

[fskimospy]

Why should I apologize for speaking the truth?

If anything, all of you crazy democrats should apologize for electing obama not only once, but twice.

You've got to be drunk or something.

 

[Texashiker]

You've got to be drunk or something.

I have not had a drink in a week, and I did take my meds last night.

So, when do I get my apology for you blind democrats electing an islamic sympathizer to president?

 

[fskimospy]

I have not had a drink in a week, and I did take my meds last night.

So, when do I get my apology for you blind democrats electing an islamic sympathizer to president?

First off I find it hilarious/sad that you view someone being sympathetic to a religion as something bad.

Second off, like I said before rational discussion is impossible with someone who is making posts as stupid and insane as your OP. If you're willing to admit that what you said was dumb and apologize for it we can discuss the merits of sanctions. If you aren't, as previously stated, discussion is pointless. You're just too far divorced from reality.

 

[brycejones]

I have not had a drink in a week, and I did take my meds last night.

So, when do I get my apology for you blind democrats electing an islamic sympathizer to president?

Incompatible's threads are over that way ------>

 

[werepossum]

Oh, you're on a role these days.

Also, Clinton did order the death of bin Laden. Turns out, he was not where he was supposed to be when those missiles blew up that Tylenol factory, or whatever it was. So, yeah, one gets flack for striking a "seemingly harmless" target and ignores the reasoning behind it.

Not surprising. The private jet of a member of the Saudi royal family was at the training compound; afraid to kill him, Clinton warned the Saudis to get him out. Not surprisingly, everyone who wasn't an expendable (and no doubt unknowing) martyr was gone when we hit the compound. As a general rule, warning one person in a terrorist compound warns every person in the terrorist compound.

Iran will eventually become nuclear capable regardless of further sanctions imposed. Many nations have breakout capacity or the technological expertise to achieve capability in relatively short order. Freezing their development at a certain stage and giving economic incentives not to pursue it is a longer term solution than anything else on the table.

I'd say that giving economic incentives not to pursue nuclear armament is merely financing their development of nuclear weapons. Still, the Iranian president requested the talks, and while he doesn't really rule the country, holding off on new sanctions until we see if these talks are going to be different makes some sense to me.

 

[Texashiker]

First off I find it hilarious/sad that you view someone being sympathetic to a religion as something bad.

Maybe you dont know about islam, and how it teaches that all non-muslims should be killed.

Its difficult for a logical person to be sympathetic to an idea that wants to see billions of people killed.