Obama forces goverment to make most painfull cuts

[rudder]

lol, they shut down tours of the white house citing sequestration as the reason. I mean things must be pretty bad if they can't even keep tours of the white house going. Soooooooooo painful the spending cuts are they have to shutdown this minimally expensive, yet seemingly important government function.

But the 50 million dollar contract for uniforms for TSA, ya let that on through, just don't send out a presser on it... just make sure the tours of the white house being shut down is front page news... we said it would hurt now we have to prove so at all costs. Hey Michelle do you want to cut out your Million dollar spending sprees and grossly expensive fashion and travel tastes? "NOOOOOOOO", K, lets fire security at the washinton monument then that oughta teach these fools to try and cut spending.

Worst of politics and it's front and center at a time when we need anything but. Some appear hell bent on ensuring that they manipulate things as far as possible to ensure they get their way, damned letting things play out any other way.

For what is costs to have obama play golf with tiger woods.... the white house could have had enough money for years to keep doing the tours.

 

[Zorba]

the longer the sequester goes on the worse obumma looks. people realize that the cuts are insignificant, but to fear monger so much pisses people off.

This. I voted for Obama both times and have maintained a slightly positive opinion of him. But all of this doom and gloom is almost all BS and I am really sick of it. Though I did learn long ago that governments will always make cuts as painful as possible to justify themselves. I've seen it a lot when local tax increases get voted down, the cities start cutting services that are important, give themselves raises and start their pet projects any ways.

I used to work as an engineer on military projects, I know it'd be easy as hell to cut some money out of defense budgets without effecting the final product. Not too mention all of the stupid waste of money projects that get funding.

 

[Zorba]

I think people care a little more about whether the TSA agents groping them are wearing clothes than whether they're able to tour a house.

How about they stop buying easy to beat, expensive scanners and bring back the metal detectors that actually worked and worked quickly? How about they learn to not use 10 people to do a 5 person job?

 

[werepossum]

How about they stop buying easy to beat, expensive scanners and bring back the metal detectors that actually worked and worked quickly? How about they learn to not use 10 people to do a 5 person job?

Using 10 people to do a 5 person job is pretty much the whole point of government.

 

[TallBill]

Using 10 people to do a 5 person job is pretty much the whole point of government.

And somehow pay the cost of 20 people working.

 

[zsdersw]

I don't like Obama and I disagree with most of his policies, but I just don't see how one could reasonably conclude that he's simply trying to destroy the country.

Reasonable? Why would we expect Republican cheerleaders to be reasonable?

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

These terrible spending cuts are all Obama's fault and he won't compromise with Republicans to fix them by further cutting spending. Show some leadership Obummer!

 

[Charles Kozierok]

Once again, some alternate history...

Obama: "We need to raise the debt ceiling again."

Boehner: "You're right. We need to put on a bit of a show to satisfy our constituents that we are unhappy about it, but we'll do it just like past Congresses have."

Voila, no sequester.

Oh, you mean that's not what Boehner said?

 

[nageov3t]

it's typical Fireman First Policy.

rather than minimizing the impact of spending cuts, they want to make them as noticeable as possible to push the GOP into accepting a deal.

Now, there’s a natural balance to that; there are plenty of things that the government does that are extremely important but are barely visible; no one would notice if no one inspected meat for a week, unless something went wrong. Of course, part of the strategy also involves publicizing as much as possible anything that does go wrong, and blaming it on the sequester (whether, in fact, it really is a consequence of the sequester or not).

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...9/the-washington-monument-sequester-strategy/

 

[FerrelGeek]

I still don't understand how the media isn't destroying O for all of this. How can you do support something and then rally against it with no backlash?

Because most members of the MSM are in a competition to see who can get their tongue to Obama's ascending colon first.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

I don't like Obama and I disagree with most of his policies, but I just don't see how one could reasonably conclude that he's simply trying to destroy the country.

Do you really believe that Obama is doing everything he can to minimize the impact of the sequester? It sure doesn't seem like it to me. In fact all the evidence seems to point to him using this as a political stunt to further his tax & spend agenda...all at the expense of the American people.

On this particular issue....I don't know how any reasonably objective person can defend Obama with a straight face.

 

[FerrelGeek]

Exactly. Obama doesn't know how to lead. He'll never be anything but a community organizer. A leader would have done what he could to compromise, but also prepare a sane plan to cut spending with minimal pain if compromise failed. Obama's direction to make it painful shows that he couldn't care less about the people of this country. The fact that such a significant number of people think he's great shows the overall decline in intelligence we have in this country.

And no, that doesn't mean I'm in love with 'the stupid party' either, so don't go there.

Obama is what you get when you have a significant number of people dependent on the government and who know more about reality tv than they know about how our country is supposed to work.

Hey, the gop has done a great job making itself look bad, but Obama sure as hell isn't doing anything to lead either. He's just doing whatever he can to try and stick it to the gop.

This situation with the sequester is a prime example. No matter how it came about or who's to blame, a good leader would figure out how to minimize the impact to the people and the economy. Seems like Obama is trying to maximize impact to the people and the economy so he can use it as a hammer against the gop. That's not leadership.

 

[FerrelGeek]

Reasonable? Why would we expect Republican cheerleaders to be reasonable?

Please provide examples of how Obama is being reasonable.

 

[debian0001]

Republicans: Damn if you do it, Damn if you don't do it.

 

[waggy]

This is why the country is fucked. The gop is hell bent on destroying Obama at any cost, and Obama is hell bent on destroying the GOP at any cost. Nobody cares about actually leading the country.

/this!

they are so hellbent on fucking over the other side that they don't care what they are doing to the country.

This is a great example. Obama WANTED teh sequester. he got it. now he is blaiming it on GOP and forcing people to get fired. wich he will blame on the GOP. People will believe him and continue.

Then on the other side you have the GOP who are fighting him at every step of the way. not putting people in office, and doing there best to stonewall him.

they wanted the sequister because they figured it would hurt Obama.


both sides are right too.

 

[zsdersw]

Do you really believe that Obama is doing everything he can to minimize the impact of the sequester? It sure doesn't seem like it to me. In fact all the evidence seems to point to him using this as a political stunt to further his tax & spend agenda...all at the expense of the American people.

On this particular issue....I don't know how any reasonably objective person can defend Obama with a straight face.

None of that equals Obama is out to "destroy the country". He wasn't defending Obama, merely calling out the hyperbole.

 

[Thump553]

it's typical Fireman First Policy.

rather than minimizing the impact of spending cuts, they want to make them as noticeable as possible to push the GOP into accepting a deal.




http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...9/the-washington-monument-sequester-strategy/

This. Every time a local government has a financial crisis, what do they do? Threaten to defund high school football or something else very popular. Twenty years or so back we had a state fiscal crisis here that resulted in a partial shutdown just before a holiday weekend. The (GOP) governor very publically closed all state parks and beaches. Huge public outcry, governor got what he wanted the next week.

Also, please do not forget that the ONLY reason we had sequester in the first place was to appease the GOP teabag wingnuts.

 

[zsdersw]

Please provide examples of how Obama is being reasonable.

I'm not talking about Obama. If you would follow the post I was replying to you would see that.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

None of that equals Obama is out to "destroy the country". He wasn't defending Obama, merely calling out the hyperbole.

Agree..."destroy the country" is a little strong. However, placing his political agenda above the needs of the American people is a huge breach of duty in my opinion. And it's certainly not helping our country.

I would think this kind of shit would piss off a lot of liberals...but I'm not seeing it.

Surprise, surprise, surprise.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6_1Pw1xm9U

 

[waggy]

Agree..."destroy the country" is a little strong. However, placing his political agenda above the needs of the American people is a huge breach of duty in my opinion. And it's certainly not helping our country.

I would think this kind of shit would piss off a lot of liberals...but I'm not seeing it.

Surprise, surprise, surprise.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6_1Pw1xm9U

that's the thing that really blows my mind. so many are blinded by the party the fail to see everything happening.

this i feel is what allowed corps to pretty much take control of the Government.

 

[zsdersw]

However, placing his political agenda above the needs of the American people is a huge breach of duty in my opinion. And it's certainly not helping our country.

This is something of which all levels of government and all political parties are guilty.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

This is something of which all levels of government and all political parties are guilty.

Really? Perhaps you have some examples that you can cite (that are comparable to what Obama is currently doing).

 

[unokitty]

I wouldn't wipe my ass with The Moonie Times...

\you folks got what you wanted. Congrats....

Obama’s Machiavellian Sequestration Pain Game: Putting Politics Over Public Safety

“Men are so simple of mind, and so much dominated by their immediate needs, that a deceitful man will always find plenty who are ready to be deceived.” Niccolò Machiavelli


Interesting, isn't it, that an 85 billion dollar sequestration causes so much concern when the country is already paying 220 billion dollars in national debt interest.

Who are you going to congratulate when the interest rates go up?

Uno

 

[Juddog]

I love some of the right-wingers on this board for years who complain that Obama is spending too much, is a tax & spend "librul", etc. then bitch about him making budget cuts. You're the same people that a year ago were going on and on about how he needs to cut the budget, now when he finally does it you whine about it? You got what you wanted, you should be happy for a change!

You all made your bed, now lie in it.

 

[zsdersw]

Really? Perhaps you have some examples that you can cite (that are comparable to what Obama is currently doing).

You said Obama is placing a political agenda above the needs of the American people... You think only Obama and/or the Democratic party is guilty of this?

You're smarter than that.