Obama Fires Inspector General over waste probe into Obama supporter

[jman19]

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: CPA

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: techs
"It is vital that I have the fullest confidence in the appointees serving as inspectors general," Obama said in the letter to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., and Vice President Joe Biden, who also serves as president of the Senate. "That is no longer the case with regard to this inspector general."[/b]

Isn't that almost the exact same thing Bush said after he fired those AGs?

Notice how neither techs nor any of the other obama-ites have commented on the comparison. Deflect, deflect, deflect.

Because the comparison is stupid. With Bush firing those US attorneys (not Attorney Generals), information came out that showed they were fired for insufficient partisanship, hackery, etc.

In this case you have a civil servant who has been smacked down by independent US attorneys previously for overstated claims, sloppy reporting, misleading documentation, lack of basic due diligence like the fact that they hadn't even bothered to determine how much money they wanted to claim was actually misspent.

You add on to this unproven allegations without any evidentiary corroboration, and then bafflingly and insanely ask why we aren't comparing a guy with documented work related issues that was dismissed with bipartisan approval with attorneys with exemplary work records dismissed for ADMITTED partisan reasons.

Did you even read the article?

No, but he read the like-minded ProJo's comments and decided to chime in.

 

[ZeGermans]

the difference is this dude was fired for misconduct and the attorneys were fired because they didn't make up charges against acorn.

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: techs
"It is vital that I have the fullest confidence in the appointees serving as inspectors general," Obama said in the letter to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., and Vice President Joe Biden, who also serves as president of the Senate. "That is no longer the case with regard to this inspector general."[/b]

Isn't that almost the exact same thing Bush said after he fired those AGs?

Bush said a lot of things. He lied a lot. For example, remember his strong 'we do not torture statements based on an absurd re-definition of the word that allowed torture.

The facts are very different between the two, and you should be ashamed of siding with pseudo-Winnar.

US Attorney firings were linked to the Attorneys not prosecuting innocent Democrats for political reasons, or prosecuting guilty Republicans, basically linked to Karl Rove as political point man getting the political complaints from Republicans, and then Bush expecting to be able to hide the politicization and corruption of the Attorneys with those statements thay may have fooled no one but PJ. That's a far cry from this situation, in which there's no such evidence on motive, and reportedly even had bi-partisan support.

Not that i require bi-partisan support considering Republicans' willingness to act in a highly partisan fashion and attack things for no good reason, but that makes it even clearer.

 

[Patranus]

Obummer...

Key Obama Ally Says President Obama Did Not Follow the Law in IG Firing

http://blogs.abcnews.com/polit...-law-in-ig-firing.html

 

[Corn]

Originally posted by: Patranus
Huh, what do ya know

Key Obama Ally Says President Obama Did Not Follow the Law in IG Firing

http://blogs.abcnews.com/polit...-law-in-ig-firing.html

Wow, another hypocritical move by the Obamessiah. The crap I took earlier today was more suprising than this news.....and the icing on the cake is that he co-sponsored the bill that made this law. You couldn't write a better joke, think Letterman will use it?

 

[lupi]

so BHO manages to yet again follow in the footsteps of the guy he spent so much time railing against, and his lap lickers yet again find excuses for him. never would have seen that one coming.

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: Corn
and the icing on the cake is that he co-sponsored the bill that made this law.

actually it appears he didn't. the bill he co-sponsored passed the senate but died in the house. Ultimately a revision of the '78 IG law did pass but it wasn't the bill he co-sponsored.

 

[Patranus]

Originally posted by: jonks

Originally posted by: Corn
and the icing on the cake is that he co-sponsored the bill that made this law.

actually it appears he didn't. the bill he co-sponsored passed the senate but died in the house. Ultimately a revision of the '78 IG law did pass but it wasn't the bill he co-sponsored.

Incorrect
http://www.opencongress.org/bill/110-s2324/show

Section 3 is my favorite:

(Sec. 3) Requires the President, the heads of designated federal entities, the Librarian of Congress, the Capitol Police Board, and the Public Printer to communicate to Congress in writing the reasons for removing or transferring an IG no later than 30 days before such removal or transfer. Provides that the IG of the U.S. Capitol Police may be transferred from office only by the unanimous vote of the Capitol Police Board.

 

[Red Dawn]

Oh the outrage..Bwuhahahaha

 

[Patranus]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Oh the outrage..Bwuhahahaha

I for one, really don't care one way or another. I did not like Bush (after Democrats took control of congress) and I also don't like Obama. I will give Obama props if he does something right. I really couldn't care less which political party is in control as long as the policy decisions make sense.

That being said, many people act as if Obama "can do nothing wrong". This coupled with the media's inability or unwillingness to say anything bad about Obama makes these "small outrages" more of an issue.

Remember Bush firing the US attorneys? A lot of people say that the firing of the US attorneys is nothing like this story and that is completely true. Bush had every right fire the US attorneys for ANY reason he saw fit. Obama however did not have the authority to fire this IG but did so anyways. The "main stream media" blasted Bush day in and day out over the firing of the US attorneys but has remained relatively silent on this IG issue.

 

[JS80]

Walpin referred to the Inspector General Act of 1978 which asserts that the IG has the duty to "[a]ssume a leadership role in any and all activities which he deems useful to promote economy and efficiency in the administration of programs and operations or prevent and detect...waste in such programs and operations."

"IG offices are not intended to shy away from communication to the public through the media," Walpin wrote.

imagine the 24/7 media coverage by ABC NBC CBS CNN MSNBC if W had done this. they would have had a conference call and formulated a scandal, given it a name like inspector-gate, and called for impeachment.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: JS80

Walpin referred to the Inspector General Act of 1978 which asserts that the IG has the duty to "[a]ssume a leadership role in any and all activities which he deems useful to promote economy and efficiency in the administration of programs and operations or prevent and detect...waste in such programs and operations."

"IG offices are not intended to shy away from communication to the public through the media," Walpin wrote.

imagine the 24/7 media coverage by ABC NBC CBS CNN MSNBC if W had done this. they would have had a conference call and formulated a scandal, given it a name like inspector-gate, and called for impeachment.

Yep that's what happens to a thoroughly incompetent and universally despised President like Bush

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: Patranus

Originally posted by: jonks

Originally posted by: Corn
and the icing on the cake is that he co-sponsored the bill that made this law.

actually it appears he didn't. the bill he co-sponsored passed the senate but died in the house. Ultimately a revision of the '78 IG law did pass but it wasn't the bill he co-sponsored.

Incorrect
http://www.opencongress.org/bill/110-s2324/show

Try again. See in your own link under "Bill Status" where it shows the bill passed the senate but not the house?

The bill that eventually became law was HR928: http://www.opencongress.org/bill/110-h928/show

As that bill originated in the house, Obama did not co-sponsor it.

Watch this: How a Bill Becomes a Law

 

[Patranus]

Originally posted by: jonks

Originally posted by: Patranus

Originally posted by: jonks

Originally posted by: Corn
and the icing on the cake is that he co-sponsored the bill that made this law.

actually it appears he didn't. the bill he co-sponsored passed the senate but died in the house. Ultimately a revision of the '78 IG law did pass but it wasn't the bill he co-sponsored.

Incorrect
http://www.opencongress.org/bill/110-s2324/show

Try again. See in your own link under "Bill Status" where it shows the bill passed the senate but not the house?

The bill that eventually became law was HR928: http://www.opencongress.org/bill/110-h928/show

As that bill originated in the house, Obama did not co-sponsor it.

Watch this: How a Bill Becomes a Law

You are right, I was wrong.

While Obama did not sponsor this bill, it is the EXACT SAME BILL that Obama did sponsor but expired due to the end of the congressional term.