Obama: Europe should better integrate Muslims

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rommelrommel

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He's the one that schools idiots like you... Well I guess that could be anyone, good luck finding out!

So it's your shill account, more or less. libruls gud! amirite??!?!?

Obama has been a massive disappointment on civil liberties, even some of his strongest supporters have came out against him. Bush or Obama, largely different ends of the same turd.
 

nickqt

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So it's your shill account, more or less. libruls gud! amirite??!?!?

Obama has been a massive disappointment on civil liberties, even some of his strongest supporters have came out against him. Bush or Obama, largely different ends of the same turd.

Like a typical conservative, let those paranoid delusions fly!

I literally just made this account the other day to ask someone a question about a router issue I'm having.

I've stayed because mocking conservatives by simply pointing out observable reality is just good fun!

Keep on ignoring what I said.

Your paranoid delusions that I'm a "bantard" or someone else's shill account is hilarious.

And of course, typically conservative.

#Freedumb
 

zinfamous

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wow, most of you guys need to travel, and learn to read a bit.

talk about taking shit way out of context, simply because you have no care to think about what was actually said.

ffs.

"I hate the scary black man, therefore everything he says is automatically wrong, and I will never read the offending article in question!"

Honestly, this was never how I interpreted any type of anti-Obama criticism, but certain stripes of it, over the last 2 years....that's pretty much all there is now. It's obvious. Kinda surprising for some of you, to be honest

:hmm:
 

nickqt

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wow, most of you guys need to travel, and learn to read a bit.

talk about taking shit way out of context, simply because you have no care to think about what was actually said.

ffs.

"I hate the scary black man, therefore everything he says is automatically wrong, and I will never read the offending article in question!"

Honestly, this was never how I interpreted any type of anti-Obama criticism, but certain stripes of it, over the last 2 years....that's pretty much all there is now. It's obvious. Kinda surprising for some of you, to be honest

:hmm:
There are two types of Obama criticism.

One kind is from dirty libruuls who criticize Obama because he's just a socially liberal Rockefeller Republican.

The other kind is from conservatives who believe that Obama is importing hispanic preteens, inoculated with ebola and trained by ISIS, to be DeathPanel™ squads who will be going door-to-door to take away people's guns while forcing people to gay marry their uncles cow.
 

alcoholbob

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What parts don't want to assimilate?

Have any final solutions to stop those evil J̶e̶w̶s̶ Muslims from ruining Europe.

Germany for Germans!

Same ol' same ol.

Yep. We won't have this problem when all of Europe is under Sharia Law. No more controversies for 500 million years until the sun boils away the atmosphere and everyone can happily watch a sunrise that fills the sky while living in a world of pre-enlightment/pre-industrial revolution technology while doing their 5 daily prayers. The ideal end of humanity for a liberal.
 

nickqt

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Yep. We won't have this problem when all of Europe is under Sharia Law. No more controversies for 500 million years until the sun boils away the atmosphere and everyone can happily watch a sunrise that fills the sky while living in a world of pre-enlightment/pre-industrial revolution technology while doing their 5 daily prayers. The ideal end of humanity for a liberal.

You caught me!

Us libruuuuuuls can't wait until ShariaLaw™ is enacted everywhere, from rural Nebraska, to Uuuurup!

It's why we've been recruiting ISIS-trained hispanic preteens from central America to form DeathPanels™ to go door-to-door taking away your guns!

Conservatives are hilarious. It's just a shame that your delusional views get credence in the voting booth.
 

alcoholbob

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You caught me!

Us libruuuuuuls can't wait until ShariaLaw™ is enacted everywhere, from rural Nebraska, to Uuuurup!

It's why we've been recruiting ISIS-trained hispanic preteens from central America to form DeathPanels™ to go door-to-door taking away your guns!

Conservatives are hilarious. It's just a shame that your delusional views get credence in the voting booth.

Conservatives are hilarious, just like liberals. Different sides of the same Statist coin. You are right my views would seem delusional from your perspective of Statist order, but calling me a conservative as a retort is like a Communist using the world Socialist as an insult.
 

theeedude

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Obama says something obvious. Conservative dimwits "raise eyebrows" and are "outraged."
 

Genx87

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What is wrong with what he said? Europe imo has two options. Expel all Muslims or integrate them within society. Having them on the fringe of their society has helped to create these problems. Why haven't US Muslims attacked like they do in Europe?
 

Vic

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Conservatives are hilarious, just like liberals. Different sides of the same Statist coin. You are right my views would seem delusional from your perspective of Statist order, but calling me a conservative as a retort is like a Communist using the world Socialist as an insult.
Your anti-statist rhetoric would be more credible if you weren't expecting the state to save you from the Muslim apocalypse you described above.
 

TreVader

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Yeah, the poll of muslims that agreed that sharia takes precedence over secular laws of the land was north of 70%.

Honestly the real issue is the adverse selection of Muslims seeking asylum in Europe - these aren't Oxford educated Saudis that party in vegas and then go to the Mosque so their parents don't get pissed. The muslims that end up as refugees in Europe are the ones with no resources - you essentially end up with large clusters of the poorest and least educated Muslims in EU and stupid shit like killing people over cartoons happens.


Sad to say it but this is the real issue. This is not a problem with "Muslims" so much as it is a problem with any kind of deeply religious, insular, and poorly educated refugee population.


Do people here think if the average redneck town in West Virginia, in its entirety, immigrated to Europe that they would integrate any better?
 

rommelrommel

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What is wrong with what he said? Europe imo has two options. Expel all Muslims or integrate them within society. Having them on the fringe of their society has helped to create these problems. Why haven't US Muslims attacked like they do in Europe?

Because the Atlantic and the USN is stopping those refugees from flooding into America, for one.
 

rommelrommel

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There are two types of Obama criticism.

One kind is from dirty libruuls who criticize Obama because he's just a socially liberal Rockefeller Republican.

The other kind is from conservatives who believe that Obama is importing hispanic preteens, inoculated with ebola and trained by ISIS, to be DeathPanel™ squads who will be going door-to-door to take away people's guns while forcing people to gay marry their uncles cow.

Which of those does Chomsky fit into? Or Cornell West? Jonathan Turley?
 

Double Trouble

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What is wrong with what he said? Europe imo has two options. Expel all Muslims or integrate them within society. Having them on the fringe of their society has helped to create these problems. Why haven't US Muslims attacked like they do in Europe?

In the US they simply haven't reached sufficient numbers yet to cause serious problems, but that's starting to change in some places in Michigan and Minneapolis. Due to the higher concentration there you're starting to see friction developing between muslims and non-muslims. Not having predominantly muslim colonies and not sharing a border with a muslim country is what has somewhat insulated the US from the problems the Europeans are seeing now.

You simply can't have a long term peaceful coexistence between groups when one group doesn't believe in the right of the other group to not adhere to the same beliefs and rules.
 

doubledeluxe

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He's right though.

The problem in Europe is that if you're a Muslim you have a very low chance of getting a job. Europeans tend to be rather xenophobic in their hiring practices. We have the same problem in the USA in many ways but not at that level.
 

Dari

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He's right though.

The problem in Europe is that if you're a Muslim you have a very low chance of getting a job. Europeans tend to be rather xenophobic in their hiring practices. We have the same problem in the USA in many ways but not at that level.

That's because in Europe nationality is strongly tied to ethnicity. It's very different from America where we're all Americans. There, if you're not European you're not European. Also, assimilation has clearly failed. Must be a reason why 90% of all the cars that are burned in France are done by Muslims.
 

TreVader

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The US has a totally different approach to immigration from the Middle East. When my father immigrated it was because my grandfather was an important military scientist in his country at the time. He was given a visa to teach as a professor at a university here in CA and to work with the Navy. The US has very strict immigration laws for people from the middle east, or at least did back in 1970.

My family was catholic so obviously it's a different culture, but that's my point. The problem is not their religion itself, the problem is that they are just way too religious and uneducated. If you were to talk to Iranian nuclear scientists, who are Muslim, you would see people who are far more open minded than the palestinian refugees.


You cannot have large, uneducated, highly religious groups of people immigrate as a cohesive unit. You just end up transplanting that group. I am 100% confident that if you pulled a bible-belt trailer park community out of Louisiana and dumped it in Dubai you would have the exact same obstinance to assimilation.
 

schmuckley

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In the US they simply haven't reached sufficient numbers yet to cause serious problems, but that's starting to change in some places in Michigan and Minneapolis. Due to the higher concentration there you're starting to see friction developing between muslims and non-muslims. Not having predominantly muslim colonies and not sharing a border with a muslim country is what has somewhat insulated the US from the problems the Europeans are seeing now.

You simply can't have a long term peaceful coexistence between groups when one group doesn't believe in the right of the other group to not adhere to the same beliefs and rules.
^This is about the gist of it.
It's like this... Muslims are about 1 douchebag move away from getting decimated.Ain't nobody got time for that.Everyone has had quite enough of that.
I'm not saying going all Sarajevo n stuff..hopefully people don't.
There will be a major pushback, though.
 
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schmuckley

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He's right though.

The problem in Europe is that if you're a Muslim you have a very low chance of getting a job. Europeans tend to be rather xenophobic in their hiring practices. We have the same problem in the USA in many ways but not at that level.

Then why be in Europe if you're Muslim? :\
 

MongGrel

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You caught me!

Us libruuuuuuls can't wait until ShariaLaw™ is enacted everywhere, from rural Nebraska, to Uuuurup!

It's why we've been recruiting ISIS-trained hispanic preteens from central America to form DeathPanels™ to go door-to-door taking away your guns!

Conservatives are hilarious. It's just a shame that your delusional views get credence in the voting booth.

I'm starting to like this guys sense of humor :)
 

DucatiMonster696

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So basically the notion/idea of multiculturalism is a huge failure in Europe. We already knew this a long time ago. Glad Obama and cohorts are finally figuring it out.

The idea that you can allow enclaves of people who refuse to integrate into your society as nation and cling to their old traditions, language and values, etc is a farce that only breeds division within the host nation and allows foreign elements that are opposed to the systems, values and traditions observed within Western nations to breed like a malignant cancer.
 
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