Obama does it again - forces GM to hire 10K new workers to make economy look good....

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xBiffx

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You and xBiffx definitely stopped learning about cars in 1987 or something. Cars today, particularly at the higher-end, are absolutely LOADED with software driven features. As the article says, many of these things are bought from outside companies and GM is trying to develop them in-house.

And I think you overestimate the time it takes to write firmware for these systems. That and the manpower required. If they are hiring 10K workers, they aren't programming only firmware.
 

xBiffx

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How many people do you know who are 'firmware' engineers? I work for a very large technology company (with over 10,000 employees btw) and guess what, we don't have a single 'firmware engineer' even though even though we develop hundreds of devices each year that all have 'firmware', but I guess that just comes from the magic pixie dust.....

I've known several. Some work in the robotics industry, others in the computer world, and one in aerospace. Sorry you haven't known any.
 

Capt Caveman

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Good. Better than outsourcing it which they currently do. Reading the article, Ford is doing the same thing.
 

OneOfTheseDays

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What I want to know is why are the Conservatives on here so intent on rooting against America and American success?

That's not American. Grow up. Think beyond your political party. America having a thriving auto industry is in everyone's best interest. It is perhaps THE defining industry of this country hands down.
 

MixMasterTang

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What I want to know is why are the Conservatives on here so intent on rooting against America and American success?

That's not American. Grow up. Think beyond your political party. America having a thriving auto industry is in everyone's best interest. It is perhaps THE defining industry of this country hands down.

Well stated.
 

xBiffx

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What I want to know is why are the Conservatives on here so intent on rooting against America and American success?

That's not American. Grow up. Think beyond your political party. America having a thriving auto industry is in everyone's best interest. It is perhaps THE defining industry of this country hands down.

Who is rooting against America in here?

Divert much?
 

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OneOfTheseDays

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Who is rooting against America in here?

Divert much?

You are. It's blatantly obvious you and the rest of the neo-conservatives are rooting for the economy to be in the tank so your guy can win. It's pathetic and un-American.
 

xBiffx

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You are. It's blatantly obvious you and the rest of the neo-conservatives are rooting for the economy to be in the tank so your guy can win. It's pathetic and un-American.

Please go ahead and show me where I said I wanted America let alone the auto industry to fail.

That's what I thought.

Your guy...lols.
 

ivwshane

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Please go ahead and show me where I said I wanted America let alone the auto industry to fail.

That's what I thought.

Your guy...lols.

Where have you said anything positive about any positive economic news? Maybe you aren't rooting against America but you sure as hell aren't rooting for it!
 

SparkyJJO

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Ha! The "R" stands for "retarded", it's how you know a person with an "R" next to their name isn't all there!

And the "D" stands for "Dumbass" so you also know a person with a "D" next to their name isn't the brightest bulb in the box :p
 

DucatiMonster696

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What I want to know is why are the Conservatives on here so intent on rooting against America and American success?

That's not American. Grow up. Think beyond your political party. America having a thriving auto industry is in everyone's best interest. It is perhaps THE defining industry of this country hands down.

I'm sorry but why do you have such low standards when it comes to the US auto industry? You can't be a thriving competitive industry if you require government to prop up and bail you out of your mistakes at taxpayer expense. Unfettered open competition breeds success and not hand holding or meddling by government. They either succeed by their own merits or they step aside and allow other US companies to fill in the void they leave behind. Frankly it would of been a boon for the remaining US automakers like Ford if GM was allowed to fail because then they would have room to grow and learn from the lessons of failure taught by GM.
 
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ivwshane

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And the "D" stands for "Dumbass" so you also know a person with a "D" next to their name isn't the brightest bulb in the box :p

I agree, anyone who sides with any particular party without looking at the facts is indeed a dumbass, same with anyone who only subscribes to any one ideology.

Hey look we agreed on something!
 
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