Obama Compares Oil Spill To 911, Uses It To Push Cap & Trade

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Lifer
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However, his mom was certainly not a white supremacist like you, craving for some bizarre white homeland where the Queen can preside over peasants. In addition, the UK is a decently diverse country. It's not your fabled white homeland.

It doesn't matter whether one is negligence and another is intentional. Many forms of negligence reach the same or even worse forms of punishment than an intentional act.

Imagine cruise missiles slamming into Big Ben.

Volcanic ash, oil spill destroying their most important company, "losing" in the World Cup tie... potential missile strike. It's been a bad few months for them!

What does Steelers quarterback have to do with anything? I realize he raped a couple of women, but that's no reason to fire stinger missiles at him.
 

ShawnD1

Lifer
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Will the laws have achievements I can reach too?
Valve's law achievements would be rewards for FOLLOWING the law rather than breaking the law. You wouldn't get bailouts for doing shit like giving out high risk mortgages.
 

Slick5150

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Nov 10, 2001
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You guys get more and more hopelessly blinded by your party fueled hatred.

Something goes horribly wrong, President rightly reacts that it's a wakeup call and we need to change our ways, and somehow he's taking away our civil liberties. Riiiiight.

He is right that this disaster is going to cost us more economically than 9/11 did. We haven't even scratched the surface of the long-term damage this will do.
 

Fear No Evil

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You guys get more and more hopelessly blinded by your party fueled hatred.

Something goes horribly wrong, President rightly reacts that it's a wakeup call and we need to change our ways, and somehow he's taking away our civil liberties. Riiiiight.

He is right that this disaster is going to cost us more economically than 9/11 did. We haven't even scratched the surface of the long-term damage this will do.

So Obama is magically going to make cars run on Unicorn Tears and Fairy Farts?
 

Slick5150

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So Obama is magically going to make cars run on Unicorn Tears and Fairy Farts?

Good argument! You win!

Oh wait, no, because you see, when something isn't viable yet, such as a true alternative fuel, it means you have to start doing the work neccessary to make it viable. Frankly this should have started in the 80s, but if this doesn't wake us up to the need for it, then what will? So, it's a case of better late then never.

Or, you can just stick your head in the sand like you choose to do and just assume that since something doesn't exist now, it will never exist and we shouldn't bother trying.

Take for example JFK's speech on the Moon project:

"We choose to go to the moon. We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard, because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills, because that challenge is one that we are willing to accept, one we are unwilling to postpone, and one which we intend to win, and the others, too. "

This is another of those challenges that isn't going to be easy, but we must do it because that's how we measure our worth as a leader nation.
 

spidey07

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You're not up on cap and trade. Obama is using this disaster to push it. He's mentioned it almost everytime he talks about the spill now. Cap and Trade WILL cost you a lot of money and liberty. Read up on it.

It's not about alternative energy, it's about punishing energy production and use. Basically just one big massive tax increase. Careful, you're emitting CO2, there is a tax on that.

And don't even get started on the power the EPA would have over your house and private property.
 

Slick5150

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You're not up on cap and trade. Obama is using this disaster to push it. He's mentioned it almost everytime he talks about the spill now. Cap and Trade WILL cost you a lot of money and liberty. Read up on it.

It's not about alternative energy, it's about punishing energy production and use. Basically just one big massive tax increase. Careful, you're emitting CO2, there is a tax on that.

And don't even get started on the power the EPA would have over your house and private property.

Riiight. Actually, I know quite a bit about cap and trade. In fact, I'm 100% sure I know A LOT more about it than you do since my job requires me to do a great deal of research on it, while the extent of your knowledge seems to be the talking points you seem very good at regurgitating.
 

werepossum

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Jul 10, 2006
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With no oil and coal, where will all the millions of people working in those industries find work? Intel? :awe:

Well - when only the elites have automobiles we'll need a lot of rickshaw ponies and streetcar diversity czars making sure each mass transit conveyance meets the prescribed racial and ethnic quotas . . .

Good green jobs!
 

palehorse

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Speaking of which, I am selling my entire stock of PH Virtual Carbon Credits (tm) for 50% off this week in honor and memorandum of those killed, hurt, or devastated financially in some way by the oil spill.

For every dollar spent, I will donate point-two (0.2) cents to the Make a Virtual Wish Foundation in hopes of bringing virtual happiness to fellow geeks all over the interwebz!

For every PH Virtual Carbon Credit (tm) purchased between now and June 30th, newly hired green employees, wearing green uniforms, will plant one green tree in Second Life's Hug-a-tree Today Rain Forest (tm). Order right away, and I'll throw in a free annual flower of your choice -- pick any color!!

IF YOU LOVE THE ENVIRONMENT, YOU WILL ORDER RIGHT AWAY!! PM for details...
What, no takers?

Do you guys hate the planet, or something!?
 

werepossum

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What, no takers?

Do you guys hate the planet, or something!?
Obviously. I'd buy one myself, since I love the planet, except that I'm selling my own Green 'Possum carbon credits. For only twenty bucks I'll postpone mowing my yard for a whole week; for a hundred I'll designate one of my trees and not cut it down in your name.