"Obama Calls Out Republicans, But Nobody's Home"

[Robor]

It got a little bit slowed down with Scott Brown.

The first step is to demonize the producers and use class warfare to incite the middle class against them (he's just about there, but people are starting to wake up to this tactic and reject it thankfully).
Then in populist movement implement more restrictions and control, if not outright ownership of means of productions - banks, large manufacturers, 1/6th of economy (single payer health care he so desperately wants). Effectively convince the country that capitalism is the root of their problems.
Large tax credits to middle and lower class, wealth redistribution so government is viewed as the solution, the benevolent benefactor.

I don't know what the end game would be but he's just about there, but this country is stopping him somehow thankfully. His about face and change in tune since Scott Brown shows just how important that election was. Otherwise we'd be completely screwed.

Um, yeah. Unfortunately none of that happened or will happen. In short, you're spreading FUD. Again. You need to reline your tin foil hat.

 

[Dari]

This is about more than healthcare, it's no on everything and I can't see much socialism in closing Gitmo.

You guys just keep fiddling while the rest of us are trying to put out the fires, as more time passes the options available for averting disaster become less numerous.

Well, what's good for the goose is good for the gander. The president ignored the opposing party before January. Now, he will be ignored and be punished. It's the worst of both worlds for him. Sucks to be him...

 

[ayabe]

Well, what's good for the goose is good for the gander. The president ignored the opposing party before January. Now, he will be ignored and be punished. It's the worst of both worlds for him. Sucks to be him...

You mean like making a huge part of the stimulus tax cuts? That was for your guys and a large part of why it's not as effective as it could be.

Newsflash, the HC bill is a huge sack of shit due to trying to capture just a handful of GOP votes. You guys get what you claim to want and then vow to vote against it anyways.

 

[MotF Bane]

To force the people to accept/want huge government/communism. Alinski plans.

The same sort of large government that Bush was pushing.

 

[spidey07]

Um, yeah. Unfortunately none of that happened or will happen. In short, you're spreading FUD. Again. You need to reline your tin foil hat.

I don't want to believe it. But every time he talks you can hear his disdain for capitalism and wealth creation. Every economic move he makes only hurts us. It can't be on accident, it has to be on purpose.

And the people he surrounds himself with, it can't be on accident, it has to be on purpose.

 

[cubeless]

This is about more than healthcare, it's no on everything and I can't see much socialism in closing Gitmo.

You guys just keep fiddling while the rest of us are trying to put out the fires, as more time passes the options available for averting disaster become less numerous.

this whole line is so tired... if bo can't even sell his load of shit to congressturds who claim to be democrats, why in the hell should anyone who claims to be a republican go for it???

bo is just a failing neophyte politician...

 

[cubby1223]

Obama is letting loose government spending on monumentally epic proportions. Don't go blaming Bush, he was never this reckless. Not to mention serious tax hikes are coming soon, that is a fact.

Why should the Republicans sign off on this? "We were voted in to office to try to control spending, but instead we'll just spit in the faces of those who elected us" That's not an effective strategy for a party.

 

[ayabe]

this whole line is so tired... if bo can't even sell his load of shit to congressturds who claim to be democrats, why in the hell should anyone who claims to be a republican go for it???

bo is just a failing neophyte politician...

What line specifically? Are you denying that every piece of legislation has been watered down in an attempt to appease some Republicans?

Are you denying that punting our problems down the road is only going to handcuff us in further the future? Yeah the GOP is going to be Mclovin' it when they are forced to slash Medicare/SS benefits because that's the only recourse left in a few years.

What's tiring is things like GOP'ers voting against the stimulus and then going to ribbon cutting ceremonies touting their success in getting funding for their constituents.

 

[ayabe]

Obama is letting loose government spending on monumentally epic proportions. Don't go blaming Bush, he was never this reckless. Not to mention serious tax hikes are coming soon, that is a fact.

Why should the Republicans sign off on this? "We were voted in to office to try to control spending, but instead we'll just spit in the faces of those who elected us" That's not an effective strategy for a party.

Most of the GOP'ers in Congress were elected before Obama became POTUS, so being elected to control spending is a joke.

This should be good for a laugh...what percentage of the current budget can be attributed to Obama's epic spending? Please enlighten me, I'd love for you to bring the facts, I'll be patient.

 

[heyheybooboo]

I don't understand.

Is that ever an understatement.

You mean like the ~$300B in tax cuts that was rolled into ARRA?

Guess how many republicans voted for it.

Careful.

You may expose The Right for the duplicitous hypocrites they are ...

The Cons are committed to a 'race to the bottom' in negative opposition to the majority. They have no interest in solving problems, or an interest in a successful rebound from the Bush Disaster.

I particularly like their opposition to banking and immigration reforms, and their commitment to spending $1.6 trillion over the next ten years in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Without paying for it. Of course.






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[cubeless]

What line specifically? Are you denying that every piece of legislation has been watered down in an attempt to appease some Republicans?

Are you denying that punting our problems down the road is only going to handcuff us in further the future? Yeah the GOP is going to be Mclovin' it when they are forced to slash Medicare/SS benefits because that's the only recourse left in a few years.

What's tiring is things like GOP'ers voting against the stimulus and then going to ribbon cutting ceremonies touting their success in getting funding for their constituents.

if everything was so watered down for repubs, then why couldn't every dem vote for it???

 

[Robor]

I don't want to believe it. But every time he talks you can hear his disdain for capitalism and wealth creation. Every economic move he makes only hurts us. It can't be on accident, it has to be on purpose.

And the people he surrounds himself with, it can't be on accident, it has to be on purpose.

Your paranoia is getting to you. Seriously.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

This should be good for a laugh...what percentage of the current budget can be attributed to Obama's epic spending? Please enlighten me, I'd love for you to bring the facts, I'll be patient.

The 2010 budget is 44.67% of GDP...the highest it's been since 1945...and the 3rd highest in over 100 years. And if you think that's funny...you should look at the projections.

Edit: Link http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/us_20th_century_chart.html

 

[ayabe]

The 2010 budget is 44.67% of GDP...the highest it's been since 1945...and the 3rd highest in over 100 years. And if you think that's funny...you should look at the projections.

Obama is guilty of epic spending, so tell me what % of the current budget is directly related to HIS spending?

 

[ayabe]

if everything was so watered down for repubs, then why couldn't every dem vote for it???

You know the answer, it's easy to get 80% of D's onboard but that isn't enough to pass anything.

What's more interesting to me, is why you can't get more than 2 GOP'ers to vote for anything, even if it's chock full of things they demand.

 

[cubeless]

You know the answer, it's easy to get 80% of D's onboard but that isn't enough to pass anything.

What's more interesting to me, is why you can't get more than 2 GOP'ers to vote for anything, even if it's chock full of things they demand.

i'm sure that is more interesting to you, since the failure of your heroes to get anything done is pretty heartbreaking...

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Obama is guilty of epic spending, so tell me what % of the current budget is directly related to HIS spending?

Well...that's certainly an interesting perspective. If it's not HIS spending...who's spending is it?

 

[RyanPaulShaffer]

Well...that's certainly an interesting perspective. If it's not HIS spending...who's spending is it?

Funny how it is always labeled as "Bush's spending!" when "But...BUSH!" invariably comes up, but of course, it's not Obama's spending. No, no, no!

The answer, of course, has always been that Congress is the one that controls the spending, and Congress has been controlled by the Democrats since 2006.

But Bush...!

 

[BoberFett]

In my opinion conservatives are authoritarians and that means they are vindictive assholes. If they don't control they will destroy anything that gets in the way of them reasserting that control. The one and only aim of an authoritarian is to have a position where authority can be exercised. An authoritarian without authority is like a man without a dick.

You're probably right about conservatives, but what I fail to see is how that is any different than modern "liberals" who are anything but liberal. You and the rest of the "liberals" believe that people are free to do anything they want, as long as it's what you agree with. True liberals believe that people can do even those things with which they disagree. But then I wouldn't expect an asshole like you to understand the difference, you hateful piece of shit.

 

[ayabe]

Well...that's certainly an interesting perspective. If it's not HIS spending...who's spending is it?

So 0% of the deficit is due to programs instituted by the former admin?

What's the baseline, what would the current deficit be if Obama wasn't elected/added zero to the debt?

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

So 0% of the deficit is due to programs instituted by the former admin?

What's the baseline, what would the current deficit be if Obama wasn't elected/added zero to the debt?

Answer the question please.

 

[ayabe]

i'm sure that is more interesting to you, since the failure of your heroes to get anything done is pretty heartbreaking...

You leveled the charge, so back it up.

When has either party voted 100% in lock-step on an issue? It's usually some high percentage of the majority party coupled with a smaller percentage of the minority party.

Let's call it 80/20 for arguments sake, so where's the 20% of the GOP who wants to solve problems?

It takes both parties to tango with real ideas, not 10 page outlines which do nothing.

 

[Robor]

i'm sure that is more interesting to you, since the failure of your heroes to get anything done is pretty heartbreaking...

Remember this when the shoe is on the other foot. And nice straw man with 'heroes'.

 

[thraashman]

You leveled the charge, so back it up.

When has either party voted 100% in lock-step on an issue? It's usually some high percentage of the majority party coupled with a smaller percentage of the minority party.

Let's call it 80/20 for arguments sake, so where's the 20% of the GOP who wants to solve problems?

It takes both parties to tango with real ideas, not 10 page outlines which do nothing.

Actually when Bush was president and Republicans the majority they would 100% vote for any worthless crap that W wanted passed. They chose to vote for some horrendous shit and pitched a hissy fit when Dems tried to filibuster the crap spewing forth. Now that the shoe is on the other foot, the Reps are filibustering everything, even stuff they've asked for, because they want to deadlock congress. I've learned that Democrats try to help the country, maybe some of their ideas aren't the best option, but their intent is in the right place. Republicans try to help themselves and the party and absolutely NO ONE else. They are heartless, worthless pieces of excrement that try to pass as human beings and their mask is coming off.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Remember this when the shoe is on the other foot. And nice straw man with 'heroes'.

Lol...I heard that a million times when Bush was in office. The shoe is on the other foot....or do you have trouble remembering?