Obama Broke Illinois Ethics Laws As A State Legislator

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shira

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Originally posted by: Ocguy31
THE MESSIAH BREAKS NO LAWS. HE IS THE LAW.

So, let's recapitulate:

A right-wing blog claims Obama broke Illinois ethics laws by working as a lecturer and lawyer while also being a state senator.

The right-wing ATP&N crowd jumps on the story.

The left-wing ATP&N crowd demonstrates conclusively that the Illinois ethics law doesn't bar outside economic opportunities by legislators, so long as those opportunities don't represent a conflict of interest for the legislators.

So, what is the right's response. Was it,

"Sorry, I was wrong in this case." ???

or

"I shouldn't have blindly believed this blog without checking it out first." ???

or

"I should have known it was too good to be true." ???

No. None of that. The right, with it's usual intellectual honesty, starts bleating the "Messiah" line.

Thanks for showing your integrity.

 

retrospooty

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Apr 3, 2002
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Originally posted by: Ocguy31
THE MESSIAH BREAKS NO LAWS. HE IS THE LAW.

Its nice to see that you right wing nazi's have no hope left for winning the campaign, you are left to simply flinging sarcastic insults to an audience that has grown deaf to your rantings =)

It makes me feel hopeful toward the future.
 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: shira

That the right-wingers on this thread jumped on this story without even a minute of research - which is how long it took me to determine the charges here were groundless - just once again demonstrates how devoid of intellectual honesty they are.

Shame! Shame!

QFT! :thumbsup:

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

THE MESSIAH BREAKS NO LAWS. HE IS THE LAW.

Ocguy31 is not a bullshitter. He just plays one on AT P&N. :laugh:
 

OCGuy

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Jul 12, 2000
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Originally posted by: retrospooty
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
THE MESSIAH BREAKS NO LAWS. HE IS THE LAW.

Its nice to see that you right wing nazi's have no hope left for winning the campaign, you are left to simply flinging sarcastic insults to an audience that has grown deaf to your rantings =)

It makes me feel hopeful toward the future.

Oh Godwin's law, why must you be????
 

retrospooty

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Apr 3, 2002
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Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: retrospooty
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
THE MESSIAH BREAKS NO LAWS. HE IS THE LAW.

Its nice to see that you right wing nazi's have no hope left for winning the campaign, you are left to simply flinging sarcastic insults to an audience that has grown deaf to your rantings =)

It makes me feel hopeful toward the future.

Oh Godwin's law, why must you be????

OK, the Nazi thing was just an insult, and I apologize... but the rest of the post I stand behind and notice you didnt respond too...
 

OrByte

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Originally posted by: shira
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
THE MESSIAH BREAKS NO LAWS. HE IS THE LAW.

So, let's recapitulate:

A right-wing blog claims Obama broke Illinois ethics laws by working as a lecturer and lawyer while also being a state senator.

The right-wing ATP&N crowd jumps on the story.

The left-wing ATP&N crowd demonstrates conclusively that the Illinois ethics law doesn't bar outside economic opportunities by legislators, so long as those opportunities don't represent a conflict of interest for the legislators.

So, what is the right's response. Was it,

"Sorry, I was wrong in this case." ???

or

"I shouldn't have blindly believed this blog without checking it out first." ???

or

"I should have known it was too good to be true." ???

No. None of that. The right, with it's usual intellectual honesty, starts bleating the "Messiah" line.

Thanks for showing your integrity.
ouch. That's gotta hurt.

 

OCGuy

Lifer
Jul 12, 2000
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Originally posted by: retrospooty
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: retrospooty
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
THE MESSIAH BREAKS NO LAWS. HE IS THE LAW.

Its nice to see that you right wing nazi's have no hope left for winning the campaign, you are left to simply flinging sarcastic insults to an audience that has grown deaf to your rantings =)

It makes me feel hopeful toward the future.

Oh Godwin's law, why must you be????

OK, the Nazi thing was just an insult, and I apologize... but the rest of the post I stand behind and notice you didnt respond too...


I have had zero chance of "winning" the campaign since a respectable man added a relig-nut to be second in line to the presidency. Having Pelosi as 3rd is bad enough.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Originally posted by: shira
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
THE MESSIAH BREAKS NO LAWS. HE IS THE LAW.

So, let's recapitulate:

A right-wing blog claims Obama broke Illinois ethics laws by working as a lecturer and lawyer while also being a state senator.

The right-wing ATP&N crowd jumps on the story.

The left-wing ATP&N crowd demonstrates conclusively that the Illinois ethics law doesn't bar outside economic opportunities by legislators, so long as those opportunities don't represent a conflict of interest for the legislators.

So, what is the right's response. Was it,

"Sorry, I was wrong in this case." ???

or

"I shouldn't have blindly believed this blog without checking it out first." ???

or

"I should have known it was too good to be true." ???

No. None of that. The right, with it's usual intellectual honesty, starts bleating the "Messiah" line.

Thanks for showing your integrity.

I'll be interested in seeing the OP's retraction to his claims now that the facts have been brought to light.

Ought to be interesting to see how it's spun.
 

Vic

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Jun 12, 2001
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Originally posted by: Butterbean
Obama files a using EZ form? Oh my - that's like the form college kids use for summer work. Great point about Joe the plumber's taxes being checked by the Stalinists but BO gets (another) free pass.

Schedule C-EZ, not 1040-EZ. I think we now that BB's claims of owning a business were lies. The Schedule C is for self-employment/sole-proprietor income. C-EZ is the simplified form of that for those with few business expenses or write-offs, like contractors.

If it were illegal for a politician to accept speaking fees while in office, then every politician in the country would be guilty.

The self-pwnage in this thread is strong.
 

jonks

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Butterbean
Obama files a using EZ form? Oh my - that's like the form college kids use for summer work. Great point about Joe the plumber's taxes being checked by the Stalinists but BO gets (another) free pass.

Schedule C-EZ, not 1040-EZ. I think we now that BB's claims of owning a business were lies.

No, merely a miscommunication. See, he got thrown out of the Barnes & Noble for masturbating in the sex guides section. He went back the next week and threw a flaming bag of shit at the store window. So he kinda sorta "ownd" a business if you look at it that way.