Obama backing away from ending Don't Ask/Don't Tell?

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: Ocguy31
We are free to comment on this because it is people in HIS camp releasing policy information before he is sworn in. Deal with it.

What does letting a homosexual in the military be out of the closet have to do with the economy? This should be good.

Oh, and congrats on the nomination. I'm pulling for you. :laugh:

Political capital. Politics is like chess, timing matters greatly. The Clintons came in and tried to do too much, too fast (health care, gays in the military) and got slammed, and they didn't have quite the historic economic clusterfuck that Obama is facing.

Triage. He has a lot on his plate after 8 full years of Dumbo, Greedy and Sleazy. Obama is a pragmatist first and foremost, and has absorbed the lessons learned from the Clinton's early overreach. He's going to deal with the economy first, and NOT foolishly fight a several front political war.

Obama is smarter than the average bear. He's one tidy negro! :laugh:

 

[Moonbeam]

I'm sure gays are welcome in the Navy. Why else would there be rear admirals.

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: Ocguy31
:music: Change change change
Obama's gunna change
change change change :music:


Oh this is getting fun now.....


http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/4383...99dc-0000779fd18c.html">Whats that you say? Not raising taxes on the rich?</a>

Here's some 'fun'. Today, tomorrow, next week, next month, and at least the 4 years you'll wake up with Obama leading the country. Hope ya enjoy it... :laugh:

 

[chess9]

Originally posted by: sandorski
Dude shows Intelligence, Wisdom, and Pragmatism. Bush supporters respond with, "WTF is this shit?"

Yes, and Obama is showing he's a centrist as well as a pragmatist and a very shrewd politician. As Moonbeam notes, it will take some time to sell this idea to the military. We may have to turn on the tolerance gene in a few of them. Won't hurt...much.

-Robert

 

[yowolabi]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Vic
Are we all reading the same quote? It seemed pretty that Obama said that he would repeal "don't ask don't tell" if he has the political means and opportunity to do so.

Democrat House and Senate... wiggle room for "opportunity"? It should be a slam dunk for him to pull off if he really wanted to do it.

Except it takes more than that. He'll also need the support of the JC's and the military itself, which is what he said.

There's no hedging or political games here. No nuanced, ambiguous statements. He's just saying that he won't force the military into it without a fair process. And what exactly is wrong with that?

Nothing.... except that he's making sure there is plenty of wiggle room so he can cover his ass. However, as CIC he would have the power and influence to push a policy change if he wanted.

And has it been established somewhere that forcing a policy change is better than getting everyone into a room and making it seem like it's a concensus change?

Why the hell wouldn't you try persuasion and getting general agreement before going to the nuclear option?

 

[nageov3t]

let's just kick the can on equal rights down the road and hope it goes away.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hwUgLnYrbI

(DA/DT) continues to be the law, and any change in the policy would require a change in the law. We will follow the law whatever it is. That dialogue, though, has really not progressed very far at this point in the administration.