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Nemesis 1

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Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Originally posted by: Nemesis 1
Originally posted by: PC Surgeon
Originally posted by: Duwelon
The world is headed exactly where the Bible said it would, thousands of years ago. I never thought I would see a one world government in my lifetime, but if we keep getting Obama's it will certainly happen. We owe so much money to the Chinese, that Obama is going to keep expanding and expanding... we wont have any choice but to cave to any demands they make. The Bible says the borrower is slave to the lender, obvious, but it's implications are not as easily understood.

Please sir, show me scripture for this. Thank you :)

Just read the book of revolations . 1verse hear or their does nothing. But there are many referances to A new Bable its on the EU coinage. Bible Bable. Many writing threw history point to a plan for the return of Nimrod . 12-23-12

You learn everthing you can about this man Caesarion Everthing it takes work to get good info vs. Bad But if he was Christ . Bible Bable sounds good to me. IF!

revelations was written about rome.

Most would agree to that. If Caesarion was Christ Than Christianity would be about Roman Lies. Do you know legend of 12 kings. Caesarian as Christ adds much weight to 1 world King. I agree that Revelations is about Rome . In america that be the prevailing thought, But to rest of world. Revelations is about USA. But from reading I agree its about Rome /. Why is Rome destoyed. Is Christ really Caesar son byCleo. That would be good reason to destroy rome . The Greatest Lie ever told. Who knows not me . But Caesarion was real . He did go into hiding or the New Caesar would Kill the Heir to thrown . Follow his path . Seems to = Christ path as youth India China All over the eastern world he traveled . Learned Many eastern ways. So as you can see revolations = Rome makes greatest Sense of all. IF Caesarion was Christ.

 

Nemesis 1

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Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
Well Sandorski, which of the Constitutions principles are you willing to give up for this one world government?

i don't see the reason to give up any of them, at least as far as my rights as a citizen go.

There is no such thing as concurrent and equal government. At some point there will be a difference of opinion. Which holds, the world government or the Constitution?

I have yet to see anything I would replace our founding document with. That being the case, I won't surrender sovereignty for the sake of playing to globalists.

This isn't going to happen simply because "We the People" won't allow it, and if our elected officials attempt to foist this on us, they have betrayed their office and us.

Exactly and under the real constition thats why WE the People bare arms . So we can take back sovereignty if government turns on people. Anyone who wants arms gone is one of them . For being blind idiot sheep.

 

Nemesis 1

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Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
Well Sandorski, which of the Constitutions principles are you willing to give up for this one world government?

i don't see the reason to give up any of them, at least as far as my rights as a citizen go.

There is no such thing as concurrent and equal government. At some point there will be a difference of opinion. Which holds, the world government or the Constitution?

I have yet to see anything I would replace our founding document with. That being the case, I won't surrender sovereignty for the sake of playing to globalists.

This isn't going to happen simply because "We the People" won't allow it, and if our elected officials attempt to foist this on us, they have betrayed their office and us.

Your fears are primarily Strawmen. I think you and others are assuming some extreme change in how things work if this was ever implemented. It wouldn't be, in fact in many ways you'd be better off, as given the predominant Political philosophy, you'd have some direct input into Issues that currently are dealt with by the G7/20/x, NATO, and other such organizations.


I think everone here wants a pieceful 1 world government I do . But not one setup by the people in control now . The last kind of system I want to live under is a CAST system . Thats the kind of 1 world leadership they offer. Think about it . NOT all will be =. I rather die first. Along with everone I love.

 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: Nemesis 1
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
Well Sandorski, which of the Constitutions principles are you willing to give up for this one world government?

i don't see the reason to give up any of them, at least as far as my rights as a citizen go.

There is no such thing as concurrent and equal government. At some point there will be a difference of opinion. Which holds, the world government or the Constitution?

I have yet to see anything I would replace our founding document with. That being the case, I won't surrender sovereignty for the sake of playing to globalists.

This isn't going to happen simply because "We the People" won't allow it, and if our elected officials attempt to foist this on us, they have betrayed their office and us.

Your fears are primarily Strawmen. I think you and others are assuming some extreme change in how things work if this was ever implemented. It wouldn't be, in fact in many ways you'd be better off, as given the predominant Political philosophy, you'd have some direct input into Issues that currently are dealt with by the G7/20/x, NATO, and other such organizations.


I think everone here wants a pieceful 1 world government I do . Byt not one setup by the people in control now . The last kind of system I want to live under is a CAST system . Thats the kind of 1 world leadership they offer. Think about it . NOT all will be =. I rather die first. Along with everone I love.

How do you know this?

I postulate that this Government already exists, on a practical level, but not in name. It seems that the G7/x meet more and more often, as do these other International Orgs. Seems like every other Month Foreign Ministers or Presidents or Trade Ministers or some other National Government Officials are gathering together in some location on the planet to meet and discuss issues and try to reach agreements. The only difference between what we have and an actual Global Government is likely to be less Frequent Flyer Points.
 

Nemesis 1

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If you look at history of south africa. Britt history books have already moved with the notion that South Africa was settled by whites By claiming an old white settlement predates Blacks LOL. and no blacks were displaced. In a hundred years black history in Africa could be totally distroyed
 

retrospooty

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Originally posted by: Socio
Critics Decry Obama Nominee for State Department Legal Adviser

President Obama's nominee to be the State Department's legal adviser has ignited a fury among conservative critics who say his views are a threat to American democracy -- an accusation the White House on Tuesday called "outrageous" and "completely baseless."

Baseless?

HAROLD KOH

Koh is an advocate of transnationalism, a concept that argues in favor of "global governance" as opposed to the constitutional sovereignty of independent nation-states. This perspective holds that the world's most challenging problems -- war, terrorism, "climate change," hunger, financial and social inequalities, diseases, human rights violations, racism, sexism, and xenophobia -- are too complex and deep-rooted for any single nation-state to address effectively on its own. The solution, says Koh, would be for all members of the international community to recognize a set of supranational laws and institutions whose authority overrides that of any particular government. Koh believes that such laws should "be internalized into the domestic law of even resistant nation-states."

This pick by Obama seems to be a pretty good indicator of the path he heading us down and adds more credibility to the Obama Deception Documentary posted on another thread.

Why would you appoint a State Department legal adviser who wants to replace our laws with international laws, our government with global government, if that was not your desire as well?

I don?t think this country has ever seen a president that has gone out of his way to appoint or attempt to appoint so many tax cheats, whack jobs and losers, it just shows what kind of circles he associates in and exposes his true extreme radical lunacy.

Again?

Really, will you ever tire of posting this mindless drivel? Take your paranoia for a walk man.
 

Nemesis 1

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Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: Nemesis 1
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
Well Sandorski, which of the Constitutions principles are you willing to give up for this one world government?

i don't see the reason to give up any of them, at least as far as my rights as a citizen go.

There is no such thing as concurrent and equal government. At some point there will be a difference of opinion. Which holds, the world government or the Constitution?

I have yet to see anything I would replace our founding document with. That being the case, I won't surrender sovereignty for the sake of playing to globalists.

This isn't going to happen simply because "We the People" won't allow it, and if our elected officials attempt to foist this on us, they have betrayed their office and us.

Your fears are primarily Strawmen. I think you and others are assuming some extreme change in how things work if this was ever implemented. It wouldn't be, in fact in many ways you'd be better off, as given the predominant Political philosophy, you'd have some direct input into Issues that currently are dealt with by the G7/20/x, NATO, and other such organizations.


I think everone here wants a pieceful 1 world government I do . Byt not one setup by the people in control now . The last kind of system I want to live under is a CAST system . Thats the kind of 1 world leadership they offer. Think about it . NOT all will be =. I rather die first. Along with everone I love.

How do you know this?

I postulate that this Government already exists, on a practical level, but not in name. It seems that the G7/x meet more and more often, as do these other International Orgs. Seems like every other Month Foreign Ministers or Presidents or Trade Ministers or some other National Government Officials are gathering together in some location on the planet to meet and discuss issues and try to reach agreements. The only difference between what we have and an actual Global Government is likely to be less Frequent Flyer Points.

Who to say . That what your saying isn't fact . I would agree with that lodgic completely . It would take time . But whos to say . That Common MAN when informed of this disception looks around and says F___ you . This isn't our ideal 1 government . 1 thought . 1 objective . Whos to say common man just plain is sickened by the disception and has enough sense to know anything brought into being in this fashion is the world of EVIL men . I think most of us would see that evil . Brought forth in deception. Don't you.

 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: Nemesis 1
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: Nemesis 1
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
Well Sandorski, which of the Constitutions principles are you willing to give up for this one world government?

i don't see the reason to give up any of them, at least as far as my rights as a citizen go.

There is no such thing as concurrent and equal government. At some point there will be a difference of opinion. Which holds, the world government or the Constitution?

I have yet to see anything I would replace our founding document with. That being the case, I won't surrender sovereignty for the sake of playing to globalists.

This isn't going to happen simply because "We the People" won't allow it, and if our elected officials attempt to foist this on us, they have betrayed their office and us.

Your fears are primarily Strawmen. I think you and others are assuming some extreme change in how things work if this was ever implemented. It wouldn't be, in fact in many ways you'd be better off, as given the predominant Political philosophy, you'd have some direct input into Issues that currently are dealt with by the G7/20/x, NATO, and other such organizations.


I think everone here wants a pieceful 1 world government I do . Byt not one setup by the people in control now . The last kind of system I want to live under is a CAST system . Thats the kind of 1 world leadership they offer. Think about it . NOT all will be =. I rather die first. Along with everone I love.

How do you know this?

I postulate that this Government already exists, on a practical level, but not in name. It seems that the G7/x meet more and more often, as do these other International Orgs. Seems like every other Month Foreign Ministers or Presidents or Trade Ministers or some other National Government Officials are gathering together in some location on the planet to meet and discuss issues and try to reach agreements. The only difference between what we have and an actual Global Government is likely to be less Frequent Flyer Points.

Who to say . That what your saying isn't fact . I would agree with that lodgic completely . It would take time . But whos to say . That Common MAN when informed of this disception looks around and says F___ you . This isn't our ideal 1 government . 1 thought . 1 objective . Whos to say common man just plain is sickened by the disception and has enough sense to know anything brought into being in this fashion is the world of EVIL men . I think most of us would see that evil . Brought forth in deception. Don't you.

No, I don't assume that things done in Secret are Evil. They may simply be done that way because they know that the Common Person is not ready to accept certain things. Why plow ahead with something necessary, even though you know it to be true, if the Common Person will simplly reject it out of hand due to some Illogical Fear? You have accomplished nothing then. So your only recourse is to do what is necessary in Secret and keep doing it in Secret until the Common Person is ready to accept it.

It is true that Evil People do things in Secret, but that does not mean that all People doing things in Secret are doinng Evil Things. Your Parents did things in Secret all the time. Are they Evil?
 

Nemesis 1

Lifer
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Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: Nemesis 1
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: Nemesis 1
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
Well Sandorski, which of the Constitutions principles are you willing to give up for this one world government?

i don't see the reason to give up any of them, at least as far as my rights as a citizen go.

There is no such thing as concurrent and equal government. At some point there will be a difference of opinion. Which holds, the world government or the Constitution?

I have yet to see anything I would replace our founding document with. That being the case, I won't surrender sovereignty for the sake of playing to globalists.

This isn't going to happen simply because "We the People" won't allow it, and if our elected officials attempt to foist this on us, they have betrayed their office and us.

Your fears are primarily Strawmen. I think you and others are assuming some extreme change in how things work if this was ever implemented. It wouldn't be, in fact in many ways you'd be better off, as given the predominant Political philosophy, you'd have some direct input into Issues that currently are dealt with by the G7/20/x, NATO, and other such organizations.


I think everone here wants a pieceful 1 world government I do . Byt not one setup by the people in control now . The last kind of system I want to live under is a CAST system . Thats the kind of 1 world leadership they offer. Think about it . NOT all will be =. I rather die first. Along with everone I love.

How do you know this?

I postulate that this Government already exists, on a practical level, but not in name. It seems that the G7/x meet more and more often, as do these other International Orgs. Seems like every other Month Foreign Ministers or Presidents or Trade Ministers or some other National Government Officials are gathering together in some location on the planet to meet and discuss issues and try to reach agreements. The only difference between what we have and an actual Global Government is likely to be less Frequent Flyer Points.

Who to say . That what your saying isn't fact . I would agree with that lodgic completely . It would take time . But whos to say . That Common MAN when informed of this disception looks around and says F___ you . This isn't our ideal 1 government . 1 thought . 1 objective . Whos to say common man just plain is sickened by the disception and has enough sense to know anything brought into being in this fashion is the world of EVIL men . I think most of us would see that evil . Brought forth in deception. Don't you.

No, I don't assume that things done in Secret are Evil. They may simply be done that way because they know that the Common Person is not ready to accept certain things. Why plow ahead with something necessary, even though you know it to be true, if the Common Person will simplly reject it out of hand due to some Illogical Fear? You have accomplished nothing then. So your only recourse is to do what is necessary in Secret and keep doing it in Secret until the Common Person is ready to accept it.

It is true that Evil People do things in Secret, but that does not mean that all People doing things in Secret are doinng Evil Things. Your Parents did things in Secret all the time. Are they Evil?

Now in insult us all . There are not many gifted people in the world compared to common man. Not one of these Gifted people have what many many common men have but seldom use . Thats commonsense. Commonsense is not knowledge. Common sense is wisdom to use knowledge. SO far the so called smarter people you insulted me with aren't doing well with what the gifted has given to them . They use these advancements to destroy and control the hearts and minds of commoners. If common man has this gift of commonsense why hasn't he used . Because eviloperates under a veil of secrecy and deception. That Vail has been removed. The more people become interested in world affairs . The more eyes are opened because of the gift of wisdom that the average man was gifted with.

 

Vic

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Has there been a single US President in the past 50-some years who didn't (in some form or another) support a "one world" govt policy?
 

Nemesis 1

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If in the USA today . If my family was blessed with a gifted child . That Child would never see public school that child gifts would never be known to this government .

Like if as a tech I was screwing around with magnitic fields and say found that creating differant pattern like a vortec with osalating opposing fields does some rather intersting stuff . I would hide from the world . as I know it.
 

Vic

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As a fellow product of public schools, Nemesis, you offend me.
 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: Nemesis 1
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: Nemesis 1
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: Nemesis 1
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I think everone here wants a pieceful 1 world government I do . Byt not one setup by the people in control now . The last kind of system I want to live under is a CAST system . Thats the kind of 1 world leadership they offer. Think about it . NOT all will be =. I rather die first. Along with everone I love.

How do you know this?

I postulate that this Government already exists, on a practical level, but not in name. It seems that the G7/x meet more and more often, as do these other International Orgs. Seems like every other Month Foreign Ministers or Presidents or Trade Ministers or some other National Government Officials are gathering together in some location on the planet to meet and discuss issues and try to reach agreements. The only difference between what we have and an actual Global Government is likely to be less Frequent Flyer Points.

Who to say . That what your saying isn't fact . I would agree with that lodgic completely . It would take time . But whos to say . That Common MAN when informed of this disception looks around and says F___ you . This isn't our ideal 1 government . 1 thought . 1 objective . Whos to say common man just plain is sickened by the disception and has enough sense to know anything brought into being in this fashion is the world of EVIL men . I think most of us would see that evil . Brought forth in deception. Don't you.

No, I don't assume that things done in Secret are Evil. They may simply be done that way because they know that the Common Person is not ready to accept certain things. Why plow ahead with something necessary, even though you know it to be true, if the Common Person will simplly reject it out of hand due to some Illogical Fear? You have accomplished nothing then. So your only recourse is to do what is necessary in Secret and keep doing it in Secret until the Common Person is ready to accept it.

It is true that Evil People do things in Secret, but that does not mean that all People doing things in Secret are doinng Evil Things. Your Parents did things in Secret all the time. Are they Evil?

Now in insult us all . There are not many gifted people in the world compared to common man. Not one of these Gifted people have what many many common men have but seldom use . Thats commonsense. Commonsense is not knowledge. Common sense is wisdom to use knowledge. SO far the so called smarter people you insulted me with aren't doing well with what the gifted has given to them . They use these advancements to destroy and control the hearts and minds of commoners. If common man has this gift of commonsense why hasn't he used . Because eviloperates under a veil of secrecy and deception. That Vail has been removed. The more people become interested in world affairs . The more eyes are opened because of the gift of wisdom that the average man was gifted with.

"Common Sense" is not all that Common, nor does it often make much Sense. It is most often a mirage used by a Debater to give weight to an argument without any kind of statistical evidence to back up the claim.

The shape of the Earth, orbit around the Sun, and many other such morsels of knowledge we take for granted today did not come from "Common Sense" and those who were early adopters of such knowledge caused an uproar among the Common People for stating it. Some were persecuted or killed for exposing what we now know as simple truths.
 

Nemesis 1

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Sorry I private catholic school . Any old catholics here. Do you remember when they started teaching us about GOD . Did you ever notice how Catholic schools tight about the semerian culture and the living Gods. That was in the 50,s . That information was just now discovered. How could they teach us tha,t if they didn't know. You can't believe how much info we Catholics got on semerians and Babloloyn. now day Iraq. We were taught about the egyptian gods . We were taught that which you people are just now seeing.

Many didn't pay attention true . I did.
 

ProfJohn

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Originally posted by: Nemesis 1
Sorry I private catholic school . Any old catholics here. Do you remember when they started teaching us about GOD . Did you ever notice how Catholic schools tight about the semerian culture and the living Gods. That was in the 50,s . That information was just now discovered. How could they teach us tha,t if they didn't know. You can't believe how much info we Catholics got on semerians and Babloloyn. now day Iraq. We were taught about the egyptian gods . We were taught that which you people are just now seeing.

Many didn't pay attention true . I did.
If I run this post through one of the google translators will it make sense??
 

Nemesis 1

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: Nemesis 1
Sorry I private catholic school . Any old catholics here. Do you remember when they started teaching us about GOD . Did you ever notice how Catholic schools tight about the semerian culture and the living Gods. That was in the 50,s . That information was just now discovered. How could they teach us tha,t if they didn't know. You can't believe how much info we Catholics got on semerians and Babloloyn. now day Iraq. We were taught about the egyptian gods . We were taught that which you people are just now seeing.

Many didn't pay attention true . I did.
If I run this post through one of the google translators will it make sense??

Unless you experienced I doubt it would help you.

 

MotF Bane

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: Nemesis 1
Sorry I private catholic school . Any old catholics here. Do you remember when they started teaching us about GOD . Did you ever notice how Catholic schools tight about the semerian culture and the living Gods. That was in the 50,s . That information was just now discovered. How could they teach us tha,t if they didn't know. You can't believe how much info we Catholics got on semerians and Babloloyn. now day Iraq. We were taught about the egyptian gods . We were taught that which you people are just now seeing.

Many didn't pay attention true . I did.
If I run this post through one of the google translators will it make sense??

If you find a fucking-nuts to English translator, yes.
 

daishi5

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Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: Nemesis 1


Now in insult us all . There are not many gifted people in the world compared to common man. Not one of these Gifted people have what many many common men have but seldom use . Thats commonsense. Commonsense is not knowledge. Common sense is wisdom to use knowledge. SO far the so called smarter people you insulted me with aren't doing well with what the gifted has given to them . They use these advancements to destroy and control the hearts and minds of commoners. If common man has this gift of commonsense why hasn't he used . Because eviloperates under a veil of secrecy and deception. That Vail has been removed. The more people become interested in world affairs . The more eyes are opened because of the gift of wisdom that the average man was gifted with.

"Common Sense" is not all that Common, nor does it often make much Sense. It is most often a mirage used by a Debater to give weight to an argument without any kind of statistical evidence to back up the claim.

The shape of the Earth, orbit around the Sun, and many other such morsels of knowledge we take for granted today did not come from "Common Sense" and those who were early adopters of such knowledge caused an uproar among the Common People for stating it. Some were persecuted or killed for exposing what we now know as simple truths.

I oppose a single world government for this exact reason, so many laws are foisted on us because they are "common sense." (Just for the sake of irony, aren't you a supporter of "common sense" gun laws?)

My reasoning behind this is simple, if we do something because it is common sense without actualy studies about its effects, such as the war on drugs, we can easily end up with laws that actually hurt people without having any good comparison. It is the same reason I support states rights, I believe we should give states more power, I would like to see california able to make mj legal, that way the rest of us would be allowed to see the actual effects of such a policy. Then hopefully other states would slowly come to mimick the most effective policies. When we have a one world power, it is all too likely that the "one state" will pass down common sense laws to "save the children" or some other emotional appeal that will actually end up hurting them. Without other countries to compare the results to, it will be almost impossible to come to valid conclusions about the actuall effects.

Without valid comparisons, we will get to see so much more of the wonderful logic that the city of chicago uses.
"We banned handguns, handgun crime will go down."
"Handgun crime went up."
"See just imagine how much worse it would have been if we had not banned handguns."

And yes, gun laws will probably be the most fought over provisions, but that is because of all the emotioin behind it, and "common sense" such as more guns mean more crime and more dead babies.
 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: daishi5
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: Nemesis 1


Now in insult us all . There are not many gifted people in the world compared to common man. Not one of these Gifted people have what many many common men have but seldom use . Thats commonsense. Commonsense is not knowledge. Common sense is wisdom to use knowledge. SO far the so called smarter people you insulted me with aren't doing well with what the gifted has given to them . They use these advancements to destroy and control the hearts and minds of commoners. If common man has this gift of commonsense why hasn't he used . Because eviloperates under a veil of secrecy and deception. That Vail has been removed. The more people become interested in world affairs . The more eyes are opened because of the gift of wisdom that the average man was gifted with.

"Common Sense" is not all that Common, nor does it often make much Sense. It is most often a mirage used by a Debater to give weight to an argument without any kind of statistical evidence to back up the claim.

The shape of the Earth, orbit around the Sun, and many other such morsels of knowledge we take for granted today did not come from "Common Sense" and those who were early adopters of such knowledge caused an uproar among the Common People for stating it. Some were persecuted or killed for exposing what we now know as simple truths.

I oppose a single world government for this exact reason, so many laws are foisted on us because they are "common sense." (Just for the sake of irony, aren't you a supporter of "common sense" gun laws?)

My reasoning behind this is simple, if we do something because it is common sense without actualy studies about its effects, such as the war on drugs, we can easily end up with laws that actually hurt people without having any good comparison. It is the same reason I support states rights, I believe we should give states more power, I would like to see california able to make mj legal, that way the rest of us would be allowed to see the actual effects of such a policy. Then hopefully other states would slowly come to mimick the most effective policies. When we have a one world power, it is all too likely that the "one state" will pass down common sense laws to "save the children" or some other emotional appeal that will actually end up hurting them. Without other countries to compare the results to, it will be almost impossible to come to valid conclusions about the actuall effects.

Without valid comparisons, we will get to see so much more of the wonderful logic that the city of chicago uses.
"We banned handguns, handgun crime will go down."
"Handgun crime went up."
"See just imagine how much worse it would have been if we had not banned handguns."

And yes, gun laws will probably be the most fought over provisions, but that is because of all the emotioin behind it, and "common sense" such as more guns mean more crime and more dead babies.

Anything can happen, but somethings can be influenced. Others can not. International need for cooperation will only increase. You can refuse to accept it and have the cooperation occur out of your sight or you can accept the Need for it and be able to influence it.

BTW, I wasn't arguing for "Common Sense" at all. Just stating that it is ultimatley meaningless.
 

Nemesis 1

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Originally posted by: daishi5
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: Nemesis 1


Now in insult us all . There are not many gifted people in the world compared to common man. Not one of these Gifted people have what many many common men have but seldom use . Thats commonsense. Commonsense is not knowledge. Common sense is wisdom to use knowledge. SO far the so called smarter people you insulted me with aren't doing well with what the gifted has given to them . They use these advancements to destroy and control the hearts and minds of commoners. If common man has this gift of commonsense why hasn't he used . Because eviloperates under a veil of secrecy and deception. That Vail has been removed. The more people become interested in world affairs . The more eyes are opened because of the gift of wisdom that the average man was gifted with.

"Common Sense" is not all that Common, nor does it often make much Sense. It is most often a mirage used by a Debater to give weight to an argument without any kind of statistical evidence to back up the claim.

The shape of the Earth, orbit around the Sun, and many other such morsels of knowledge we take for granted today did not come from "Common Sense" and those who were early adopters of such knowledge caused an uproar among the Common People for stating it. Some were persecuted or killed for exposing what we now know as simple truths.

I oppose a single world government for this exact reason, so many laws are foisted on us because they are "common sense." (Just for the sake of irony, aren't you a supporter of "common sense" gun laws?)

My reasoning behind this is simple, if we do something because it is common sense without actualy studies about its effects, such as the war on drugs, we can easily end up with laws that actually hurt people without having any good comparison. It is the same reason I support states rights, I believe we should give states more power, I would like to see california able to make mj legal, that way the rest of us would be allowed to see the actual effects of such a policy. Then hopefully other states would slowly come to mimick the most effective policies. When we have a one world power, it is all too likely that the "one state" will pass down common sense laws to "save the children" or some other emotional appeal that will actually end up hurting them. Without other countries to compare the results to, it will be almost impossible to come to valid conclusions about the actuall effects.

Without valid comparisons, we will get to see so much more of the wonderful logic that the city of chicago uses.
"We banned handguns, handgun crime will go down."
"Handgun crime went up."
"See just imagine how much worse it would have been if we had not banned handguns."

And yes, gun laws will probably be the most fought over provisions, but that is because of all the emotioin behind it, and "common sense" such as more guns mean more crime and more dead babies.

How is gun lw make sense, If I get killed in a crime . Given a choice how I die. I choose Bullet . Better yet A bomb . Less suffering the better.

Guns don't kill people do . Take guns away . than knives than any sharp object . Man is problem not gun. It is the powerful who use guns to fight wars. They want our guns . But they keep theres . Let me think on that. I don't think so.

 

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Originally posted by: Socio
Critics Decry Obama Nominee for State Department Legal Adviser

President Obama's nominee to be the State Department's legal adviser has ignited a fury among conservative critics who say his views are a threat to American democracy -- an accusation the White House on Tuesday called "outrageous" and "completely baseless."

Baseless?

HAROLD KOH

Koh is an advocate of transnationalism, a concept that argues in favor of "global governance" as opposed to the constitutional sovereignty of independent nation-states. This perspective holds that the world's most challenging problems -- war, terrorism, "climate change," hunger, financial and social inequalities, diseases, human rights violations, racism, sexism, and xenophobia -- are too complex and deep-rooted for any single nation-state to address effectively on its own. The solution, says Koh, would be for all members of the international community to recognize a set of supranational laws and institutions whose authority overrides that of any particular government. Koh believes that such laws should "be internalized into the domestic law of even resistant nation-states."

This pick by Obama seems to be a pretty good indicator of the path he heading us down and adds more credibility to the Obama Deception Documentary posted on another thread.

Why would you appoint a State Department legal adviser who wants to replace our laws with international laws, our government with global government, if that was not your desire as well?

I don?t think this country has ever seen a president that has gone out of his way to appoint or attempt to appoint so many tax cheats, whack jobs and losers, it just shows what kind of circles he associates in and exposes his true extreme radical lunacy.

and they'll still be calling us conspiracy theorists.
 

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Originally posted by: K3N
Originally posted by: Socio
Critics Decry Obama Nominee for State Department Legal Adviser

President Obama's nominee to be the State Department's legal adviser has ignited a fury among conservative critics who say his views are a threat to American democracy -- an accusation the White House on Tuesday called "outrageous" and "completely baseless."

Baseless?

HAROLD KOH

Koh is an advocate of transnationalism, a concept that argues in favor of "global governance" as opposed to the constitutional sovereignty of independent nation-states. This perspective holds that the world's most challenging problems -- war, terrorism, "climate change," hunger, financial and social inequalities, diseases, human rights violations, racism, sexism, and xenophobia -- are too complex and deep-rooted for any single nation-state to address effectively on its own. The solution, says Koh, would be for all members of the international community to recognize a set of supranational laws and institutions whose authority overrides that of any particular government. Koh believes that such laws should "be internalized into the domestic law of even resistant nation-states."

This pick by Obama seems to be a pretty good indicator of the path he heading us down and adds more credibility to the Obama Deception Documentary posted on another thread.

Why would you appoint a State Department legal adviser who wants to replace our laws with international laws, our government with global government, if that was not your desire as well?

I don?t think this country has ever seen a president that has gone out of his way to appoint or attempt to appoint so many tax cheats, whack jobs and losers, it just shows what kind of circles he associates in and exposes his true extreme radical lunacy.

and they'll still be calling us conspiracy theorists.

See sig.
 

JEDIYoda

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Socio
Critics Decry Obama Nominee for State Department Legal Adviser

President Obama's nominee to be the State Department's legal adviser has ignited a fury among conservative critics who say his views are a threat to American democracy -- an accusation the White House on Tuesday called "outrageous" and "completely baseless."

Baseless?

HAROLD KOH

Koh is an advocate of transnationalism, a concept that argues in favor of "global governance" as opposed to the constitutional sovereignty of independent nation-states. This perspective holds that the world's most challenging problems -- war, terrorism, "climate change," hunger, financial and social inequalities, diseases, human rights violations, racism, sexism, and xenophobia -- are too complex and deep-rooted for any single nation-state to address effectively on its own. The solution, says Koh, would be for all members of the international community to recognize a set of supranational laws and institutions whose authority overrides that of any particular government. Koh believes that such laws should "be internalized into the domestic law of even resistant nation-states."

This pick by Obama seems to be a pretty good indicator of the path he heading us down and adds more credibility to the Obama Deception Documentary posted on another thread.

Why would you appoint a State Department legal adviser who wants to replace our laws with international laws, our government with global government, if that was not your desire as well?

I don?t think this country has ever seen a president that has gone out of his way to appoint or attempt to appoint so many tax cheats, whack jobs and losers, it just shows what kind of circles he associates in and exposes his true extreme radical lunacy.
way too funny...hahahhaaaaaa
looking for a smokin gun.....you and winnar should co- habitate together...
 

Jeff7

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It amuses me that people in the US seem to get behind that whole "United we stand, divided we fall" mantra, but only as long as it's safely within our precious little nation's borders. Extend that to include people living elsewhere, and suddenly it's a harbinger of the apocalypse.
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