Obama and Wesley Clark?

[MadRat]

Wesley is not a good choice for a return to moderation in America.

 

[yowolabi]

Clark would be as good a choice as anyone i've heard so far. I'm glad people have finally accepted that it's not going to be Hillary.

 

[PingSpike]

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: Skoorb

No way, you obviously didn't see Edwards in the 04 debates when running for VP. He was AWESOME!

Clark Man, check that out, those credentials would really make it hard for people to put mccain above Obama from a military perspective--4 star general, supreme allied commander of nato. I don't know if clark has skeletons or is otherwise a total douche but you take Obama's cloud 9 talk and mix it with a guy who looks like he's a general from a movie and I can see it working.

That's sort of what was needed by the Democrats in 2004. Clark would have made a lot of that talk seem ridiculous.

I was fairly pissed when Clark didn't win the nomination in 04. I mean, the dude's credentials are top notch. It'd be pretty much impossible for Bush/Cheney to school him on anything military related and he's a sharp looking southerner. He was the auto-win candidate for 04.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
umm a guy with little experience (Obama) and a guy with no experience (Clark)

Not sure how that is a good ticket.

Well we just had 7+ years of a guy with a little experience (Bush) along with a guy with a ton of exerience (Cheney) and it's been a disaster, obvioulsy the experience doesn't help.

 

[cumhail]

Personally, I think he should offer the spot to Chuck Hagel. He's a libertarian-leaning Republican who is popular with Democrats and who has both a military background and a strong resume of public service. And since he's officially announced his retirement from the Senate at the end of his current term, he's available.

I don't know if Hagel would agree to be the VP of a Democrat, of course. And I don't know that even his popularity in the state would be enough to make make Nebraska go from red to blue (or at least purple). But it would still be an interesting ticket.

 

[Stoneburner]

Tim Kaine!

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: cumhail
Personally, I think he should offer the spot to Chuck Hagel. He's a libertarian-leaning Republican who is popular with Democrats and who has both a military background and a strong resume of public service. And since he's officially announced his retirement from the Senate at the end of his current term, he's available.

I don't know if Hagel would agree to be the VP of a Democrat, of course. And I don't know that even his popularity in the state would be enough to make make Nebraska go from red to blue (or at least purple). But it would still be an interesting ticket.

He sounds like a good choice to me... if he'd take it.

 

[Fern]

I can't stand Wesley Clark, I'm pretty sure he's from Arkansas too.

I suppose the dream ticket for Dems is HRC as VP. We know she'd be good in the VP debates. You'd have a "Hope & Experience" ticket (I say that even though I personally think her experience is way over exaggerated)

I can't think of any strong southern governor who's a Dem. Christ (FL) is the strongest I know of, but he's a Repub.

Another consideration might be choosing someone who can really go after the Repubs. That attacking style doesn't suit Obama. Of course, that points back to HRC.

Fern

 

[RightIsWrong]

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: cumhail
Personally, I think he should offer the spot to Chuck Hagel. He's a libertarian-leaning Republican who is popular with Democrats and who has both a military background and a strong resume of public service. And since he's officially announced his retirement from the Senate at the end of his current term, he's available.

I don't know if Hagel would agree to be the VP of a Democrat, of course. And I don't know that even his popularity in the state would be enough to make make Nebraska go from red to blue (or at least purple). But it would still be an interesting ticket.

He sounds like a good choice to me... if he'd take it.

I'd be ok with Hagel as well. He has done a good job of standing up more for his principles than just walking the party line. Of course he hasn't been able to do that on every issue.....but more than enough of them to say that he isn't as partisan as the majority of DC is.

 

[bl4ckfl4g]

Wesley Clark is awesome. He was Commander of SouthCom when I was stationed in Panama and I actually talked to him quite a number of times. I think he would make a great VP or Pres.

 

[Tab]

What's with the dislike of Clark?

 

[StageLeft]

I suppose the dream ticket for Dems is HRC as VP.

No, she's only further repel people who may vote dem.

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
umm a guy with little experience (Obama) and a guy with no experience (Clark)

Not sure how that is a good ticket.

Well we just had 7+ years of a guy with a little experience (Bush) along with a guy with a ton of exerience (Cheney) and it's been a disaster, obvioulsy the experience doesn't help.

When you're wise and smart, experience is great, when you are a sh*t eater, all experience means is that you cannot get the taste of it out of your mouth. That's why people are, and I think right for it, not putting a ton of stock in who can tab more years into their government past. The governator had no experience at all and is better than his predecessor!

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: Fern

Another consideration might be choosing someone who can really go after the Repubs. That attacking style doesn't suit Obama. Of course, that points back to HRC.

Fern

I think that's just an impossibility. His entire message of change and "turning the page" would be severely undercut by picking the posterchild of the "last chapter" as the successor to be. Same for just about any long time DC insider. I think he's likely to go for a governor or other non-washingtonian resident.

 

[HomerJS]

I was going to start a thread about this but Obama should give Colin Powell a call. Barak said he was willing to go across party lines for his cabinet. Powell would not only blunt the foriegn policy and experience thing, but would bring over more Republicans.

Thinking outside the box. Not politics as usual.

Powell is just pissed off enough at the Bushies he might consider it.

 

[aldamon]

Originally posted by: miketheidiot

Originally posted by: CanOWorms
I've always thought it would be a good combo. It would satisfy the Clinton camp of the Democratic party and give the ticket a strong military background. The Democrats should have included Clark as Pres or VP last time.

If i remember right i was a clark supporter in 04.

I was, too. I like this choice.

 

[Fern]

Originally posted by: sirjonk

Originally posted by: Fern

Another consideration might be choosing someone who can really go after the Repubs. That attacking style doesn't suit Obama. Of course, that points back to HRC.

Fern

I think that's just an impossibility. His entire message of change and "turning the page" would be severely undercut by picking the posterchild of the "last chapter" as the successor to be. Same for just about any long time DC insider. I think he's likely to go for a governor or other non-washingtonian resident.

Do you have any governors in mind?

I can't think of any myself.

Here a a list of current governors

Aside from Richardsone, who may be a decent choice, I don't really know much about most of the Dem governors. Easley from NC (my state) wouldn't make a good choice.

Fern

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: HomerJS
I was going to start a thread about this but Obama should give Colin Powell a call. Barak said he was willing to go across party lines for his cabinet. Powell would not only blunt the foriegn policy and experience thing, but would bring over more Republicans.

Thinking outside the box. Not politics as usual.

Powell is just pissed off enough at the Bushies he might consider it.

You do realize that Powell was the very mad who spoon fed the US all the bullsh*t prior to the Iraq war, right? he has no credibility, he has destroyed his reputation for not standing up to truth. They knew at that time that information was dubious at best and he stood there and went on about chemical trucks and wondering where certain stocks were that were already accounted for (because they had been destroyed). Powell can go f**k himself.

 

[nageov3t]

Originally posted by: aldamon

Originally posted by: miketheidiot

Originally posted by: CanOWorms
I've always thought it would be a good combo. It would satisfy the Clinton camp of the Democratic party and give the ticket a strong military background. The Democrats should have included Clark as Pres or VP last time.

If i remember right i was a clark supporter in 04.

I was, too. I like this choice.

I liked Clark; I never really understood why he didn't get much traction in '04.

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: aldamon

Originally posted by: miketheidiot

Originally posted by: CanOWorms
I've always thought it would be a good combo. It would satisfy the Clinton camp of the Democratic party and give the ticket a strong military background. The Democrats should have included Clark as Pres or VP last time.

If i remember right i was a clark supporter in 04.

I was, too. I like this choice.

I liked Clark; I never really understood why he didn't get much traction in '04.

Because we're in a war and no one is going to surrender to the Dread Pirate Wesley

 

[GRIFFIN1]

If Obama wants to make sure he lives through the next 4 years, then he should pick Al Sharpton as his VP.