Obama and the failboat

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CycloWizard

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Did I hear somebody say ' fail boat' ?

Mission-accomplished.jpg
Bush probably climbed up there and taped that banner up himself!
 

Fear No Evil

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Bush was expected to evacuate an entire city of 100's of thousands of people after a hurricane hits and got blamed for it. Black Bush can't even properly rent a boat and get a couple hundred American's to safety in Libya. Imagine if he was faced with a real crisis.
 

mpo

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Jan 8, 2010
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With all our warships and navy all over the world and in the area this is the best Obama can do? Other countries have been evacuating for days with their warships and this is the best he can do? Failboat indeed.
The US has not been allowed to land planes in Libya. It made the evacuation that much more difficult.

Oh, and Obama must be in charge of the Italian and Turkish navies:

Two Italian military ships are off the Libyan coasts, near Misrata, but rough seas are preventing the evacuation of some 150 Italian workers. Two Turkish ships on their way to Libya were also waiting for calmer seas, one near the island of Crete.
What about Russia?
A ferry is on its way to evacuate 31 Russian nationals working under contract in Libya. The ferry was to set sail on Thursday but was delayed because of a storm. It has now left the Italian port of Bari and is heading for Libya.
 
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To blame this on Obama is retarded. This has nothing to do with Obama the man, It just goes to prove that the people employed by the government are all incompetent regardless of political affiliation.
 

chucky2

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Do you think he personally picked it or did some subordinate coordinate the effort with little knowledge of how bad the Med can be?


Do you blame him for your kankles too?

There should really be no problem with The Right heaping sh1t like this on O'Bummer when The Left wanted Bush to personally obtain, translate, collate, vet, and interpret every single piece of intelligence leading up to Iraq and in general, the WoT. Ditto with Bush personally being Everywhere for Katrina, overriding the wishes of elected politicians, etc.

The Left can't have it both ways (much as they try)...

Chuck

P.S. Sh1t happens. These people went to Libya freely, they knew/know the risks. Looks like they'll just have to wait it out for a better boat. And, given how peaceful the Muslim Probonents say Muslims are, none of these people ought to need to be evacuated anyways. "Everyone" knows The Eb1l West" is the only group that harms anyone....
 

Ldir

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To blame this on Obama is retarded. This has nothing to do with Obama the man, It just goes to prove that the people employed by the government are all incompetent regardless of political affiliation.

I think all it proves is that a Mediterranean storm is making sea travel difficult for several nations. It also shows Fox is full of hacks who ignore facts when they can smear Obama.
 

feralkid

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Jan 28, 2002
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This kind of inaction or incompetence is commonplace for this failed president.

Remember his inaction and incompetence with the oil spill? This man is nothing more than a community organizer with zero leadership skills. It's a disturbing pattern of behavior from our president and he's starting to make Carter look good, he really is.




On idiotic statement a day is quite enough from you, spidey.
 

werepossum

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I'm not sure it's fair to blame this even on government incompetence in general. A ship big enough to evacuate these people was sent, just perhaps not a ship big enough to do so in the storm. If a larger ship wasn't available, I'd rather be on the ship in harbor waiting for the seas to clear than in the midst of the anarchy waiting on the big ship, or be responsible for someone else dying because the big ship wasn't where it needed to be . . .

Arguably I'd rather the relatively safe in harbor than plowing through the storm in the open sea, even in a ship large enough to safely do so, but not knowing enough about the conditions I can't say that with any expectation of accuracy.
 

chucky2

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D@mn the POTUS for congratulating his troops and keeping up their morale!!!

He should have been more patriotic like Harry Reid and sold out the US servicepeople and the Iraqi's by saying publically - as a sitting US Senator - that'd we'd, and by extension the Iraqi's, had lost.

Shame on Bush, and seemingly all the people on the carrier, for being happy they'd overthrown a brutal dictator! Shame on them! I'm sure The Media wouldn't sabotage that in any way (like throwing out a Mission Accomplished picture when things got rough in Iraq)...nah...they'd never sell out the US like that...

Sheep...little liberul sheep....

Chuck
 

werepossum

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I've never understood that kerfuffle. A military unit is tasked with a specific mission, it isn't just told "Go forth and bring peace." In this case, whether you accept that the banner was for the carrier ending its deployment supporting the war or for all the troops in winning the conventional war, that specific mission had been accomplished. Doesn't mean that an insurgency won't break out or that everything is peachy or that future combat operations won't be required. It just means "Hey, I gave you guys a mission and you accomplished it brilliantly, congratulations!" That was true and well deserved.
 

Steeplerot

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The President was being misleading by that photo op with all the pomp and rock star entrance. It was a pathetic attempt at propaganda for the failing Iraq war at that point. Nice try with the old talk radio line though to distract from the obvious but many of us where there for mcflightsuit and the embarrassing facepalm of Bush in full idiot mode. Even Republican strategists admitted playing it off as something to do with Iraq with all the pomp and bluster was foolhardy. But if this makes you feel better about the disaster of Bush presidency go for it, righties will make him Reagan II at some point inevitably anyhow if there is one thing Reps got down it's polishing turds and rewriting history is not that hard when you have a captive audience of radicalized talk radio/foxnews drones.
 

CitizenKain

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I know logic is a problem for many people, but last time I checked our Navy is not yet capable of teleporting ships yet.
 

Steeplerot

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I'm sure The Media wouldn't sabotage that in any way (like throwing out a Mission Accomplished picture when things got rough in Iraq)...nah...they'd never sell out the US like that...


For the millionth time..
The medias parent companies are the very ones making the missles and guns and tanks and bullets and profiting. Of course they pimped the war, just as they are basically ignoring debate on Afghanistan to keep it going. They already got our oil comfy deals from Iraq, thats old news.

You guys ate up that liberation/WMD and whatever else BS they threw at you like lapdogs the whole time, even still.

Really annoying you guys back up war profiteers, if you have stock in weapon industries then fine, but dont be liars or act like you are morally superior when others call out people for being underhanded war profiteers out to trade human lives for a buck.

It is downright shameful you guys give any credibility at all to these right wing blowhards using you for a buck, what the hell happened to Americans? Did you guys forget what a consumerist society we live in and how ingrained corporate advertising and PR is in our whole society in 2011? And you guys eat it up as if conservatism was a "brand" that is better being sold to you. It's pathetic this country has about half its citizens losing their view of America itself to a corporate PR campaign.

This is how corporations take over governments through radio and mass media throughout south america for ages. Sow dissent of trust of elected government then give industry more and more power through deregulation (always under the same banner of "economic freedom"). This is how right wing dictators (owned by the corporations that put them in power) happen all the time. Read about banana republics sometime instead of listening to conspiracy theories on mainstream radio/cable news.
 
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matt0611

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I'm not sure it's fair to blame this even on government incompetence in general. A ship big enough to evacuate these people was sent, just perhaps not a ship big enough to do so in the storm. If a larger ship wasn't available, I'd rather be on the ship in harbor waiting for the seas to clear than in the midst of the anarchy waiting on the big ship, or be responsible for someone else dying because the big ship wasn't where it needed to be . . .

Arguably I'd rather the relatively safe in harbor than plowing through the storm in the open sea, even in a ship large enough to safely do so, but not knowing enough about the conditions I can't say that with any expectation of accuracy.

Yeah, I fucking hate GWB, but I really never got the big deal over the "mission accomplished" banner.
 

chucky2

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It's not eating it up when you agree with it, it's agreeing with it. If you use less sensationalistic words, it sounds, well, less sensationalistic. Bush got done with few US lives, lots of US money, and in far far far far far far less time what would have taken (if ever) the UN or the Iraqi's themselves. Yes it took blood and treasure. All hard things of that magnitude do. And you're seeing the effect of others having representative government is having on the greater ME region. Those people might not like the US, might not like what the US did in Iraq, might not like the Iraqi's, but d@mn sure they're like the opportunities the Iraqi's now have.

And who cares who the parent companies are. These Media Corp. purport themselves to be "news" outlets, when in fact they're Ratings outlets. When I hear CNN refering to illegal aliens as "Undocumented Workers" on a sob piece, that's not an unintentional slip, that's ratings - not news - driven.

CSPAN is about the only real news outlet left anymore, and that's only because if one can find the time, one can actually watch what the Politician in question is ly, er, I mean, speaking about...

Chuck
 

Steeplerot

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Bush got done with few US lives, lots of US money, and in far far far far far far less time what would have taken (if ever) the UN or the Iraqi's themselves.

Got what done? Found the WMDs? Because thats why we went in. Or at the least that's what the media was cool with running with to make the money that everyone knew was coming from the government to industry. It is win/win for the media, they get ratings and they get to produce more crap for the military industrial complex.

Is that a functional government and free media to you? Sound more like knowingly defending a system corrupt to the core to me.

Old left phrase: There are 2 types of profiteering conservatives: complacently murderous ones..and their pasties. Neither are innocent and neither give any quarter to the innocent. This always leads to the obvious conflict of interests.
 
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