Obama admits to drug, booze and even cocaine use

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manowar821

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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: Arkaign
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
I wonder if this revelation by Obama about his past was a pre-emptive strike on the dirt that Hillary supposedly had on him?

Very possible.
Although FWIW, the hillary camp claimed that news bit was nonsense and they have nothing.

Did you read the links? This is *OLD* news, there's no way this was the fake "dirt" that Hillary "had" on Obama. He'd already admitted it IN a BOOK that HE wrote :D Jeez.
There's a difference between Obama admitting it in passing a relatively obscure book and making waves about it as a campaign issue that gets widely disseminated. How many knew prior to Obama's admission that he did those things in his past? Either way, even if he had admitted it long ago this further helps to defuse any potential accusations that might be levied against him by his D or R opponents.

I'm guessing nobody has asked him face to face, about it, though.
 

manowar821

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Originally posted by: Arkaign
Originally posted by: manowar821
He's not hiding it, lying about it, or spending millions to try and erase it illegally. Check-mate.

Pretty different from the Bush / Clinton crime families, eh?

Refreshing :D

I know, I'll be heartbroken if he doesn't win the nomination.
 

jhbball

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Wow, this easily one of the most worthless threads you've posted PJ. The problem with this thread, is that George Bush never outgrew his irresponsible behavior. He's a still a frat boy at heart; he's still making terrible decisions.

I think Obama handled this well. He's certainly not perfect, but George is certainly less-perfect.


Also, as an aside, personal cocaine use < than a DUI.
 
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Originally posted by: manowar821
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: Arkaign
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
I wonder if this revelation by Obama about his past was a pre-emptive strike on the dirt that Hillary supposedly had on him?

Very possible.
Although FWIW, the hillary camp claimed that news bit was nonsense and they have nothing.

Did you read the links? This is *OLD* news, there's no way this was the fake "dirt" that Hillary "had" on Obama. He'd already admitted it IN a BOOK that HE wrote :D Jeez.
There's a difference between Obama admitting it in passing a relatively obscure book and making waves about it as a campaign issue that gets widely disseminated. How many knew prior to Obama's admission that he did those things in his past? Either way, even if he had admitted it long ago this further helps to defuse any potential accusations that might be levied against him by his D or R opponents.

I'm guessing nobody has asked him face to face, about it, though.
Good point.

Campaign managers and their PR people generally don't allow these sort of things to just happen spontaneously which is why I tend to believe this was an arranged public admission.
 

StageLeft

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Also, as an aside, personal cocaine use < than a DUI.

In a way, but I don't know anybody who does coke and I know a lot of drunk drivers. I suppose I'm used to it.

As an aside, I think we should have shame plates for drunks; you get DUI you get a scarlet plate so we all know you're a @*#(in drunk! I don't bring this up with people I Know who are DUIers, obviously :D
 

manowar821

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Also, as an aside, personal cocaine use < than a DUI.

In a way, but I don't know anybody who does coke and I know a lot of drunk drivers. I suppose I'm used to it.

As an aside, I think we should have shame plates for drunks; you get DUI you get a scarlet plate so we all know you're a @*#(in drunk! I don't bring this up with people I Know who are DUIers, obviously :D

personal cocaine use > DUI

I'd much rather a person take a drug in their house than drink them-self retarded and then go driving around on streets where people are driving and walking. How f**king selfish is that?
 

jhbball

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Originally posted by: manowar821
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Also, as an aside, personal cocaine use < than a DUI.

In a way, but I don't know anybody who does coke and I know a lot of drunk drivers. I suppose I'm used to it.

As an aside, I think we should have shame plates for drunks; you get DUI you get a scarlet plate so we all know you're a @*#(in drunk! I don't bring this up with people I Know who are DUIers, obviously :D

personal cocaine use > DUI

I'd much rather a person take a drug in their house than drink them-self retarded and then go driving around on streets where people are driving and walking. How f**king selfish is that?

That's what I meant, by "<", I meant personal cocaine use is the lesser of two offenses.
 

jonks

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Originally posted by: manowar821
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Also, as an aside, personal cocaine use < than a DUI.

In a way, but I don't know anybody who does coke and I know a lot of drunk drivers. I suppose I'm used to it.

As an aside, I think we should have shame plates for drunks; you get DUI you get a scarlet plate so we all know you're a @*#(in drunk! I don't bring this up with people I Know who are DUIers, obviously :D

personal cocaine use > DUI

I'd much rather a person take a drug in their house than drink them-self retarded and then go driving around on streets where people are driving and walking. How f**king selfish is that?

I think you mean coke < DUI. And Skoorb, just cuz you think you don't know anyone who uses coke, doesn't mean they aren't using and not talking about it...somebody's buying it.

 

manowar821

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Originally posted by: jhbball

That's what I meant, by "<", I meant personal cocaine use is the lesser of two offenses.

Originally posted by: sirjonk

I think you mean coke < DUI. And Skoorb, just cuz you think you don't know anyone who uses coke, doesn't mean they aren't using and not talking about it...somebody's buying it.

Yeah yeah, I noticed that... Sorry jhbball. :p
 

eits

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i don't care what either of them did... i care about one being a fucking moron and the other one being an extremely intelligent man. too bad bush doesn't fall in the latter description.
 

JD50

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Why do people care so much about what politicians did in their youth? Although, this will bring out the hypocrites on both sides. It will be interesting to see the Republicans that excuses what Bush criticize Obama, and the Dems that criticized what Bush did excuse Obama. We're already seeing the latter in this thread.
 

bamacre

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There is a HUGE difference between someone who "used to drink" and someone who is an alcoholic.

Alcoholism is a disease, and it doesn't just go away.
 

manowar821

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Originally posted by: JD50
Why do people care so much about what politicians did in their youth? Although, this will bring out the hypocrites on both sides. It will be interesting to see the Republicans that excuses what Bush criticize Obama, and the Dems that criticized what Bush did excuse Obama. We're already seeing the latter in this thread.

I couldn't care less about it, what matters is how they handle it NOW. Bush has spent many dollars in an attempt to erase his younger exploits. Obama, not even the democratic primary yet, has admitted it.

Which seems more decent, TODAY? My issue with bush on this subject was NEVER about the fact that he did the drugs, it was an issue with the fact that he's just a god damn liar.
 

bamacre

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Also, as an aside, personal cocaine use < than a DUI.

In a way, but I don't know anybody who does coke and I know a lot of drunk drivers. I suppose I'm used to it.

As an aside, I think we should have shame plates for drunks; you get DUI you get a scarlet plate so we all know you're a @*#(in drunk! I don't bring this up with people I Know who are DUIers, obviously :D

That would be great for families that have to share a car. :roll:
 

Narmer

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Originally posted by: teclis1023
I didn't care that Bush used drugs, although I do care that he had DUIs in his past.
I don't care that Obama has used drugs.
I don't care that Clinton got a blowjob, though I lament his scruples.
I don't care that Craig has sex with men, although public bathrooms are hardly the place.

I focus on the issues. Which is exactly the reason that I'm voting for Narmer in 2008.

I am humbled by your write-in, but let's not get off-topic and forget that Laura Bush earned her entry into the Bush clan by murdering.
 

Fern

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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: Arkaign
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
I wonder if this revelation by Obama about his past was a pre-emptive strike on the dirt that Hillary supposedly had on him?

Very possible.
Although FWIW, the hillary camp claimed that news bit was nonsense and they have nothing.

Did you read the links? This is *OLD* news, there's no way this was the fake "dirt" that Hillary "had" on Obama. He'd already admitted it IN a BOOK that HE wrote :D Jeez.
There's a difference between Obama admitting it in passing a relatively obscure book and making waves about it as a campaign issue that gets widely disseminated. How many knew prior to Obama's admission that he did those things in his past? Either way, even if he had admitted it long ago this further helps to defuse any potential accusations that might be levied against him by his D or R opponents.

(Bolded part) ^ I think most did. This has been in a thread here before. The "book revelations" have been discussed on all the nightly news broadcats before. Actually kinda suprised to see this pop up again.

I'm guessing next we'll revisit the "new" revelation of him being a Muslim and going to a Madrassa school.

Fern
 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Topic Title: Obama admits to drug, booze and even cocaine use
Topic Summary: Doesn?t sound much different that what Bush went through

Unless you can prove that Obama hasn't cleaned up his act since then, there's still the matter of what he and Bush have done since their earlier encounters with booze and drugs.

As of 11/21/07 10:46 am EDT, 3,874 Americans have died and tens of thousands are wounded, scarred and disabled for life in the Bushwhackos' war of LIES.
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What lies can you prove Obama has told?

How many wars did Obama start based on those lies?

How many Americans have died as a direct result of any lies you think he told?

How many times has Obama bugged, spied on, tortured or otherwise violated the rights guaranteed to every American citizen under the U.S. Constitution?

AFIK, the answer in Obama's case is ZERO. The answer is infinitely greater in the case of your TRAITOR IN CHIEF, George W. Bush. :thumbsdown: :| :thumbsdown:
 

HomerJS

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
As a young man Obama was a smart guy who didn?t put much effort into his school. He liked to goof off, chase girls and play basketball.

And then he started drinking and smoking pot and even used coke when he could afford it.

And then something happened during college that made he smartened up and realize that he was wasting his life. He turned his life around and become the success that he is today.

As a young man Bush was a smart guy who didn?t put much effort into school either. Some time after school he started drinking and might have even used other drugs.

And then one day he found god and smartened up and turned his life around.

About the only difference between Obama and Bush is the age at which they faced their crisis. Obama was in his late teens to early 20?s while Bush was nearing 30.

I wonder if all the people who attacked Bush for his problems, dug up the 20 year old DUI, and chased down every allegation of drug use will now do the same thing to Obama. Or will they magically pretend that none of this ever happened?
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MANCHESTER, N.H. (AP) - Presidential hopeful Barack Obama on Tuesday told high school students that when he was their age he was hardly a model student, experimenting with illegal drugs and drinking alcohol.

Obama stopped by a study hall at Manchester Central High School and answered students' questions about the war in Iraq and his education plan. But when an adult asked about his time as a student, Obama spoke bluntly.

"I will confess to you that I was kind of a goof-off in high school as my mom reminded me," said Obama, an Illinois Democrat who grew up in Hawaii

"You know, I made some bad decisions that I've actually written about. You know, got into drinking. I experimented with drugs," he said. "There was a whole stretch of time that I didn't really apply myself a lot. It wasn't until I got out of high school and went to college that I started realizing, 'Man, I wasted a lot of time.'"

Obama has written about his drug use in his memoir, "Dreams from My Father."

"Junkie. Pothead. That's where I'd been headed: the final fatal role of the young would be black man," Obama wrote. Mostly he smoked marijuana and drank alcohol, Obama wrote, but occasionally he would snort cocaine when he could afford it.

Drugs, Obama wrote, were a way he "could push questions of who I was out of my mind, something that could flatten out the landscape of my heart, blur the edges of my memory."

Obama told students he developed his sense of social justice at college - he attended Occidental College in Los Angeles for two years before transferring to Columbia University in New York. Before he got to Columbia, he said, he lived a naive life.

"I went to high school in Hawaii, so there was a lot of opportunity to goof off because the weather is really good all the time," he said. "I did well in school, but I didn't really apply myself. I did what I needed to do to get into college and it came fairly easily to me."

His biggest interest was in sports and girls.

"I was big on basketball. We were state champs. I thought I was better than I was," said Obama, who finds time on the campaign trail to still play a pickup game.

He then added: "I thought about girls a lot, I won't lie."

During a campaign stop in Chicago, Republican presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani was asked if he thought Obama's comments to the students were appropriate.

"I respect his honesty," Giuliani said.

"One of the things that we need from our people that are running for office is not this pretense of perfection," said Giuliani, who has faced questions about his own personal life marked by three marriages and estrangement from his two children. He said of the candidates, "we're all human beings."

"If we haven't made mistakes, don't vote for us," Giuliani said.
Just a slight fact correction, Bush was in his 40s when he had his proported life change. Took him just a little bit longer.

 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: conehead433
Different degrees of indulgence. Obama can still speak in complete sentences.

Bush needs to complete a sentence... for MURDER and TREASON. I'd settle for twenty years in Guantanamo with daily waterboarding for him, Cheney, Rove, Gonzales, Rumsfeld and the rest of their criminal cabal.
 

bamacre

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Originally posted by: conehead433
Different degrees of indulgence. Obama can still speak in complete sentences.

He can probably still have a couple of beers and not wake up at 8am in a KFC parking lot.
 

jpeyton

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Doesn?t sound much different that what Bush went through
Except in Obama's case, his drug use caused no long term brain damage.
 

palehorse

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he already admitted as much in his book, so I'm glad he didnt dance like a politician when asked about it.

that, by itself, makes him VERY unique... especially given the lineup of snakes he's competing against!