Obama admits there is no such thing as "shovel ready". $800B down the drain...

[hellotyler]

Is it really so much to ask for a politician that won't lie to me ? How do these people get votes ? Are people really so forgetful ?

 

[bfdd]

Politicians can misinform to win elections, but they have no ideas to solve this country's problems, only exacerbate them. This has been demonstrated repeatedly over the last decade and beyond.

fixed that for you, don't think the Republicans are special when it comes to "misinforming" to win elections or how tos olve the countries problems. We've had these two same damn parties in power for 100+ fucking years and neither of them have a goddamn clue as to what the fuck they're doing except for the part where they rob us blind and shovel shit on our graves.

 

[Red Dawn]

Quit posting real information! Otherwise folks would see what I already posted in another, similar thread earlier this week. Of the $787 billion in the stimulus bill, $512 billion was for tax breaks and entitlements. Of the spending category that includes construction, "shovel ready" or otherwise, $130 billion is still on the table, not $800 billion as the OP implies.

Yeah but why let the truth get in the way of a good rant

 

[dmcowen674]

Back when Obama was pitching the stimulus, he was all over saying there were programs all over the nation that were shovel ready. All the planning was done, the structure was there, they just needed money to bring the economy back to health.

reference:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=100295436

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMgSHYGgNvY

Fast forward to today and all these billions of dollars later.

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2010/10/president-obamas-shovel-in-mouth-gaffe/64597/

So we were all sold a load of lies.

Awesome, he has done so well learning from Republicans.

Truly a Messiah :thumbsup:

 

[rudeguy]

Yeah but why let the truth get in the way of a good rant

or get in the way of electing the right people.

08 proved that most people really are just sheeple. Give them a cool slogan or dangle something shiny in front of them and they will follow you anywhere.

 

[her209]

Quit posting real information! Otherwise folks would see what I already posted in another, similar thread earlier this week. Of the $787 billion in the stimulus bill, $512 billion was for tax breaks and entitlements. Of the spending category that includes construction, "shovel ready" or otherwise, $130 billion is still on the table, not $800 billion as the OP implies.

Dontcha know? Tax cuts are spending when a Democrat does it.

 

[her209]

or get in the way of electing the right people.

08 proved that most people really are just sheeple. Give them a cool slogan or dangle something shiny in front of them and they will follow you anywhere.

They didn't fall for "Country First"... or "Drill baby, drill!"

 

[shira]

Quit posting real information! Otherwise folks would see what I already posted in another, similar thread earlier this week. Of the $787 billion in the stimulus bill, $512 billion was for tax breaks and entitlements. Of the spending category that includes construction, "shovel ready" or otherwise, $130 billion is still on the table, not $800 billion as the OP implies.

Yeah but why let the truth get in the way of a good rant

And it bears repeating - because these righties seem to have such a difficult time completing a thought - that the money still unspent, whatever the amount, is not money "down the drain." It's money waiting to be spent.

 

[JTsyo]

As soon as you show us the "shovel ready" projects. Maybe you can check with one of your ten favorite commentators to see if they know of any.

NPR.org

One example of a shovel-ready project is the Gallows Road-Lee Highway intersection in the notoriously traffic-clogged suburbs of Northern Virginia outside Washington, D.C. The state wants to widen the roads and has done some of the preliminary work, but the project is on hold because Virginia doesn't have the final $32 million needed to complete it.

The stimulus bill states that for a project to be considered shovel-ready, it must be ready to begin in 90 days. The U.S. Conference of Mayors has a list of almost 19,000 such projects, adding up to almost $150 billion.

usmayors.org

Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa, joined by federal, state, city and Port of Los Angeles officials, broke ground March 8 on a $22 million federally-funded roadway improvement project along a 1.3-mile segment of Harry Bridges Boulevard in Wilmington. The project for the Port of Los Angeles, the nation’s busiest container port, is funded through the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act (ARRA) and is expected to create more than 250 local construction jobs.

...

This is the first grant awarded to the Port of Los Angeles through ARRA and the largest grant awarded to any "shovel-ready" project in Los Angeles and Ventura counties from the $27.5 billion transportation stimulus fund that provided $340 million by formula to L.A. and Ventura counties.

augusta.com

The Georgia Department of Transportation compiled the list by combing the roughly 9,000 projects that were considered ongoing. Engineers were already in the process of evaluating those projects to decide which should be postponed indefinitely and find a more manageable number that should go to the front of the line.

Although the prioritization review isn't complete, dozens of projects that had already made the cut and were set to commence last July 1 are on hold for a different reason. The department needed to use the funds appropriated for them to repay a $456 million shortfall in the last fiscal year.

...

LOCAL PROJECTS ON THE STIMULUS LIST


$3.15 million not specified
$9.8 million Ga. 47 passing lanes
$2.8 million Ga. 223 at Euchee Creek bridges
$16.9 million I-20 interchange at County Road 21
$2.9 million Ga. 28 resurfacing
$3.3 million Ga. 4 resurfacing
$2.8 million Ga. 56 spur resurfacing
$10.3 million Alexander Drive widening

Some that I ran across with a google search for shovel ready.

 

[cirrrocco]

A lot of work in my area has the putting america back to work signs and people are working day and night. so i mean if that is money poured back into infrastructure , I am all for it.

I saw the signs everywhere, central cali, nor cal , wisconsin, illinois. There were always people working.

 

[zinfamous]

what $800B?

Only ~$350-400B of that has been spent.

 

[Acanthus]

what $800B?

Only ~$350-400B of that has been spent.

Less than that, half of the $800B is tax cuts and is for accounting purposes already gone.

Of the remaining ~350B about half has been spent.