Obama administration considering killing another US citizen without due process

Texashiker

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How does obama get to keep his noble peace prize when he kills his own citizens without due process?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/10/drone-attack-controversy_n_4758546.html
An American citizen who is a member of al-Qaida is actively planning attacks against Americans overseas, U.S. officials say, and the Obama administration is wrestling with whether to kill him with a drone strike and how to do so legally under its new stricter targeting policy issued last year.

The CIA drones watching him cannot strike because he's a U.S. citizen and the Justice Department must build a case against him, a task it hasn't completed.

This has already happened before,

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/who-were-the-4-us-citizens-killed-in-drone-strikes/

Anwar al-Awlaki - US citizen
Samir Khan - US citizen
Jude Kenan Mohammad - US citizen
Abdulrahman al-Awlaki - US citizen

Were all killed by drone strikes without due process.
 

Newell Steamer

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Hey - if some of you can justify shooting a drunk woman in the face for knocking on a man's door at 2am, then this should be a non issue.
 

bshole

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Nice to see that conservatives now support Al-Qaida over their own president. That takes a lot of class.
 

Texashiker

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So I, am American, am trying to kill your wife. You're going to stand by and watch?

There is a difference in talking and doing.

If you told your co-workers you were going to kill your wife when you got home, would it be ok for the police to kick in your door and shoot you before you left work?

Even if you did kill your wife you are still entitled to a fair trial.
 
Jan 25, 2011
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So do I, all of them, and not those we pick and choose.

So how many more Americans should he be allowed to kill in terrorist strikes? How many American soldiers do you support being killed trying to capture him in his remote, highly guarded location?
 

highland145

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There is a difference in talking and doing.

If you told your co-workers you were going to kill your wife when you got home, would it be ok for the police to kick in your door and shoot you before you left work?

Even if you did kill your wife you are still entitled to a fair trial.
Threats with the present ability to do so are legitimate threats and would be handled that way by the police. Look into CDV arrests.

Your wife would be dead and I would be in Yemen, partying like it's 1999.

Why don't you love your wife?
 

Greenman

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So how many more Americans should he be allowed to kill in terrorist strikes? How many American soldiers do you support being killed trying to capture him in his remote, highly guarded location?

Who decided he was guilty? Who presented the evidence against him? Announcing that someone is a terrorist doesn't constitute due process. The guy may very well need to die, but simply saying he's a terrorist and killing him is a very bad precedent.
 

Genx87

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Nice to see that conservatives now support Al-Qaida over their own president. That takes a lot of class.

Nice to see liberals wanting to circumvent consitutional rights and kill american citizens without a trial to support "their" president. You stay classy now.
 
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Who decided he was guilty? Who presented the evidence against him? Announcing that someone is a terrorist doesn't constitute due process. The guy may very well need to die, but simply saying he's a terrorist and killing him is a very bad precedent.

There are processes in place, again due to congressional action just after 9/11.

Let me guess. Because it's not for the public click to decide if there's guilt it's bad right?
 

Texashiker

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So how many more Americans should he be allowed to kill in terrorist strikes?

Allowed to kill? That is an interesting idea.

Should Adam Lanaza been executed before he killed anyone?

Should gang members be rounded up and put to death in mass?

Why do we have gang and drug problems if we can kill people before the fact?
 

Genx87

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Who decided he was guilty? Who presented the evidence against him? Announcing that someone is a terrorist doesn't constitute due process. The guy may very well need to die, but simply saying he's a terrorist and killing him is a very bad precedent.

Exactly. It boggles my mind how willing people are to give the president judge and executioner status in this country.
 

Genx87

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There are processes in place, again due to congressional action just after 9/11.

Let me guess. Because it's not for the public click to decide if there's guilt it's bad right?

Processes written by our govt to allow it to kill citizens without a trial. Hmm, what could go wrong?
 
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Allowed to kill? That is an interesting idea.

Should Adam Lanaza been executed before he killed anyone?

Should gang members be rounded up and put to death in mass?

Why do we have gang and drug problems if we can kill people before the fact?

Nice dodge. Again. How do you propose detaining him for trial?
 
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Processes written by our govt to allow it to kill citizens without a trial. Hmm, what could go wrong?

I know right? I mean they do it every day. And it's not like when they have the person (it's only happened once where an American was targeted, contrary to what the OP implies) was openly engaged in terrorist activities against the U.S.
 
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How did we get Saddam?

Saddam got a trial and he was not a US citizen.

Nazis from world war II received a trial.

Even Jeffrey Dahmer received a trial.

Just can't answer the question can ya? Are you proposing full scale war to get the guy? Dahmer? Really?