Obama admin shuts down ACORN investigation

[Craig234]

Hell, I thought I paid you a complement.

Must be hard to get your head that far up Obama's ass without losing your magical tin-foil hat.

You are not honest.

 

[werepossum]

It's hard to blame anyone for something that doesn't exist. You just keep on lying.

ACORN handles the occassional wrongful/illegal actions by some employees appropriately.

But by your logic, every retailer who has a clerk steal 'supports theft'.

Idiocy.

Let's review why you and your ilk are attacking ACORN: because you are against democracy. Their crime is helping democracy by registering people you don't want to vote.

You've got me. I am completely against imaginary people voting. Obviously I'm a horrible racist. No, speciest. Um, realityist?

Listen up, everyone. The appropriate way to handle employees who do something wrong and/or illegal is now apparently to fire the employees, then sue the people who uncovered the wrongdoing for causing pain and suffering to the employees you fired for, um, the wrongdoing they exposed. This may not be apparent to those of us without Craig's staggering intellect. Why, ordinary people look like ants to him!

Um, wait, those are ants. But my point still stands.

 

[Jhhnn]

Hell, I thought I paid you a complement.

No, I don't think I'll comment on the likelihood that ACORN is being repeatedly snookered by Republican ninjas. I'll leave you alone in that field.

So you concede the point? Stranger things have happened, after all, with electronic voting machines, purges of voter registration rolls, and a former Ohio SoS attempting to disqualify registrations that weren't on the right paper, to name a few...

If what I speculated is indeed true, it's probably minor, as are the misdeeds of Acorn in general. What repeated investigations have found is that the organization, Acorn, follows the law, and have been repeatedly victimized by unscrupulous employees and the ravings of rightwing zealots in general, not to mention so-called "documentary film makers" who are now under indictment for similar acts of subterfuge...

 

[sandorski]

You've got me. I am completely against imaginary people voting. Obviously I'm a horrible racist. No, speciest. Um, realityist?

Listen up, everyone. The appropriate way to handle employees who do something wrong and/or illegal is now apparently to fire the employees, then sue the people who uncovered the wrongdoing for causing pain and suffering to the employees you fired for, um, the wrongdoing they exposed. This may not be apparent to those of us without Craig's staggering intellect. Why, ordinary people look like ants to him!

Um, wait, those are ants. But my point still stands.

Fail again. I'm gonna have to start giving Frequent Fail Points. You'd be racking them up fast.

 

[theamericans075]

The NY DA just finished up a multi-month probe on ACORN as a result of the videos that are now famous. Their findings were pretty straightforward: ACORN has nothing wrong with it. The videos were deceptively edited (for example, O'Keefe wore a button shirt and slacks into the ACORN office, not that retarded pimp costume).

As far as the voter registration fraud stuff, that point has be debunked harder than the swiftboaters. They HAVE to turn in every application no matter how fradulent (because way back when republicans just shredded democratic forms). They flag the obviously wrong ones and turn the contractors that filled them out over to the police. NO ONE EVER ACTUALLY COMMITS VOTER FRAUD. There's like 3 cases a year. Please, everyone, stop comparing voter registration fraud to voter fraud.

 

[Craig234]

You've got me. I am completely against imaginary people voting. Obviously I'm a horrible racist. No, speciest. Um, realityist?

No, you are not. Someone in reality wouldn't be inventing ACIRN supporting imaginary people voting, when they don't.

They also probably wouldnt be taking pot shots against opponenst of racism.

Listen up, everyone. The appropriate way to handle employees who do something wrong and/or illegal is now apparently to fire the employees

They did.

then sue the people who uncovered the wrongdoing for causing pain and suffering to the employees you fired for, um, the wrongdoing they exposed.

The way for someone dishonest to attack a group they don't like for registering voters they don't agree with is to lie about the reason they file a lawsuit.

Prove they sued 'for exposing fraudulent registrations being turned in by some workers'.

 

[werepossum]

No, you are not. Someone in reality wouldn't be inventing ACIRN supporting imaginary people voting, when they don't.

They also probably wouldnt be taking pot shots against opponenst of racism.



They did.



The way for someone dishonest to attack a group they don't like for registering voters they don't agree with is to lie about the reason they file a lawsuit.

Prove they sued 'for exposing fraudulent registrations being turned in by some workers'.

No, ACORN sued O'Keefe for causing pain and suffering to the employees ACORN had fired, not 'for exposing fraudulent registrations being turned in by some workers' (wording is yours - but I appreciate you quoting it as though I said it. Yup, ol' Craig is totally, totally honest.) Or at least they announced they were going to do so; with Obama gone ACORN may have a hard time finding a lawyer both dumb enough and brassy enough to actually do so. This is my example of ACORN acting appropriately, as you claimed it does.

The real beauty of the system is of course that ACORN receives 40% of its funding from government, if memory serves. So whether it's paying people to make up names or engaging in voting fraud or slashing tires on Republican get-out-the-vote vans, we all get to pick up part of the tab.

 

[theamericans075]

the only funding ACORN gets from the government are in the form of targetted grants that can only be used for that purpose. They get administrative cash from the government. Not a cent of your money has ever gone to pay an ACORN administrator.

 

[PJABBER]

the only funding ACORN gets from the government are in the form of targetted grants that can only be used for that purpose. They get administrative cash from the government. Not a cent of your money has ever gone to pay an ACORN administrator.

Whut????

 

[Zebo]

ACORN is the militant arm of this administration. In a few years this truth will become apparent to the public. For now, though, the vast majority of citizens are unaware. It is only those like myself; the thinking men, who are aware of what lurks in the shadows.

Please, Dems couldn't organize an orgy in a whorehouse. Plus they don' like guns.

 

[UberNeuman]

Please, Dems couldn't organize an orgy in a whorehouse. Plus they don' like guns.

 

[Jhhnn]

The best thing about registration fraud, for wingers, is that it's easy enough to segue into innuendo wrt voter fraud. Not that they'll come right out and make such a claim- it's utterly unsupportable, but they can get a certain amount of mileage out of it with the paranoia junkies and outrage addicts. Convenient, too, since the response to any mention of ACORN among that crowd is utterly pavlovian. They just know they hate ACORN, even if they're not really sure why, other than they think they're supposed to...

Efforts to justify the way they feel can be quite bizarre, as numerous discussions spanning years can attest. Facts become meaningless, even the fact that the few prosecutions of ACORN workers who cheated their employer have occurred because ACORN turned them in to the police...

It's the same with a lot of other "conservative" hot button topics. The whole phenomenon resembles the denial of diseases like alcoholism and drug addiction in a truly profound way. Too bad there's no 12 step program for it.

 

[UberNeuman]

ACORN's nuts and the Clinton penis...

/the rightwing obsession continues..
//as for any law breakers, fuck 'em...

 

[Craig234]

No, ACORN sued O'Keefe for causing pain and suffering to the employees ACORN had fired, not 'for exposing fraudulent registrations being turned in by some workers' (wording is yours - but I appreciate you quoting it as though I said it. Yup, ol' Craig is totally, totally honest.) Or at least they announced they were going to do so; with Obama gone ACORN may have a hard time finding a lawyer both dumb enough and brassy enough to actually do so. This is my example of ACORN acting appropriately, as you claimed it does.

The real beauty of the system is of course that ACORN receives 40% of its funding from government, if memory serves. So whether it's paying people to make up names or engaging in voting fraud or slashing tires on Republican get-out-the-vote vans, we all get to pick up part of the tab.

You can't even keep track of what you write.

Right before your post, let's see, I pointed out your lie about 'complimenting' Jhhnn. You did not answer.

Then I pointed out you lying about ACORN supporting voter fraud. You did not answer. So let's look at your own post.

First you repeated the false allegation that you were against them for ACORN helping "false people voting."

That was the topic - ACORN guilty of voter fraud. Not a word about the prostitute entrapment scam.

Then you jumped right to the generalization about the way to do with wrongdoing - and the only wrongdoing in your post was voter fraud - was to sue those who exposed it.

So what you WROTE was ACORN committed voter fraud, and 'the way to handle it', based on their example, was to sue the exposers.

That's the summary of what you wrote. Now you protest that the reader didn't magically switch topics from your first paragraph - voter fraud - to another scandal in your next.

You wrote one thing - and then offensively suggest dishonesty for paraphrasing what you said - after your own lies are exposed and not responded to.

Get a clue about what you wrote.

You're the one who made the generalization - if that's right, then even if you did just write badly and only mean the prostitution scandal, why did you generalize it to how to handle all scandals, when you can't back it up about the very one you falsely allege, voter fraud as well as the prostitution scam you didn't even back up?

I'm not familiar with the lawsuit you now say you were referring to - who sued them? What all grounds was the suit for? What's wrong with them, for their lies and entrapment?

One effect of the lawsuit might be to obtain the full tape they refuse to release in discovery. Now why would they want that out? Becuase it exposes lies well?