Obama admin shuts down ACORN investigation

spidey07

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Anybody really surprised by this, especially since they refused to investigate voter intimidation in philly? I'm not.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/o...t-shut-down-ACORN-investigation-87360097.html
Judicial Watch has unearthed some explosive new ACORN documents that, according to a press release, show the Obama Justice Department quashed an FBI investigation of ACORN. It started when the Republican Registrars of Voters of Stamford and Bridgeport, Connecticut -- Lucy Corelli and Joseph Borges -- filed a complaint with the FBI during the 2008 election season:

According to Corelli, on August 1, 2008, her office received 1,200 ACORN voter registration cards from the Secretary of State’s office. Over 300 of these cards were rejected because of “duplicates, underage, illegible and invalid addresses,” which “put a tremendous strain on our office staff and caused endless work hours at taxpayers’ expense.” Corelli claimed the total cost of the extra work caused by ACORN corruption was $20,000. Likewise, Borges contended that: “The organization ACORN during the summer of 2008 conducted a registration drive which has produced over 100 rejections due to incomplete forms and individuals who are not citizens…” Among the examples cited by Borges was a seven-year old child who was registered to vote by ACORN through the use of a forged signature and a fake birth certificate claiming she was 27-years old.

The FBI and Department of Justice opened an investigation into the the charges. But according to documents Judical Watch obtained through a Freedom of Information Act request, the Obama Justice Department "while noting that ACORN had engaged in 'questionable hiring and training practices,' closed down the investigation in March 2009, claiming ACORN broke no laws." Of course, as Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton made a point of telling me on the phone, it is illegal to knowingly submit false voter registrations so the Justice Department's claim that ACORN didn't violate any laws is highly dubious.

But we're just getting warmed up. Judicial Watch has much more:

By contrast, the documents also include records related to a federal investigation of ACORN corruption in St. Louis, Missouri, involving 1,492 allegedly fraudulent voter registration cards submitted by Project Vote, a liberal non-profit organization affiliated with ACORN on voter registration drives, during the 2006 election season. Assistant United States Attorney Hal Goldsmith initiated the investigation with “concurrence” from the Department of Justice and the participation of the FBI. According to a Justice Department memo, Goldsmith “advised he would prosecute any individual responsible for submitting fraudulent voter registration cards.” Goldsmith identified the statute for prosecution: Title 42, USC 1973 (gg), which provides for criminal penalties for fraudulent voter registrations. In April 2008, eight former ACORN employees from the St. Louis office pled guilty to voter registration fraud.

The documents also encompass a fairly wide swath of information:

The ACORN documents uncovered by Judicial Watch include internal FBI memoranda, signed affidavits, subpoenas, fraudulent voter registration cards, and publications describing ACORN’s policies and practices. The documents also include details regarding numerous allegations of corruption extending beyond voter registration fraud, to include attempts by ACORN employees to coerce workers to participate in campaign activities on behalf of Democratic candidates.

Between all of these documents -- which Judical Watch is making public -- we have a shot at piecing together a comprehensive, systemic look at ACORN corruption. If it looks as bad as it appears and can be substantiated by documentation, the fact that ACORN has not been seriously investigated by the feds will be a damning indictment of the White House.
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theflyingpig

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ACORN is the militant arm of this administration. In a few years this truth will become apparent to the public. For now, though, the vast majority of citizens are unaware. It is only those like myself; the thinking men, who are aware of what lurks in the shadows.
 

PJABBER

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Anybody really surprised by this, especially since they refused to investigate voter intimidation in philly? I'm not.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/o...t-shut-down-ACORN-investigation-87360097.html
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Judicial Watch, a public interest group that investigates and prosecutes government corruption, has been trying for some time to FOIA source documents on ACORN.

Looks like after a number of years of trying they are getting more.

Link to this particular document set. Warning - the first one is a 17+MB download, the second one runs 13.5MB.

FBI ACORN documents

FBI ACORN documents, part 2

Prior Judicial Watch activities and information investigating ACORN -

Judicial Watch - ACORN

 
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EagleKeeper

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ACORN has put themselves between a rock and a hard place.
They are supposed to turn in all registrations - however, knowingly submitting a fraud is against Federal law.

ACORN lack of training and/or requirements is what is causing them problems. When obvious fraud is submitted then it leads to question what may also be hidden.
 
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JS80

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acorn is the militant arm of this administration. In a few years this truth will become apparent to the public. For now, though, the vast majority of citizens are unaware. It is only those like myself; the thinking men, who are aware of what lurks in the shadows. Everyone knows this.

fixed.
 

kage69

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While I obviously don't approve of voter fraud, it would have been nice to see this kind of concern applied to other White House debacles, ones that cost us American lives.

Golly, it's almost like some people can't get over losing an election. One that wouldn't have been changed by a small number of "irregularities" to boot.
 

sandorski

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Probably because there are ways to deal with this and the FBI is not needed. That's my guess.
 

werepossum

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Probably because there are ways to deal with this and the FBI is not needed. That's my guess.
Obama's ways to deal with this include "Exploit the hell out of it" and "Take other peoples' money through taxes to fund it." Smart money sales he'll use both.
 

Jhhnn

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Let me re-phrase the OP-

UHH-WAAAHHHH!!!!

Followed by quoted snivelling and whining by Republican registrars...

Righties seem to know that they're really badly outnumbered, so it's important for them to attempt to suppress registration and voting by people not likely to favor them at the polls... hence the raving, raging and foaming at the mouth wrt Acorn...

Hell, some probably follow Acorn staffers around, offer bogus registration information just so they can whine about it later... Think about it- no ID is required to register, so fraud is obviously quite easy, particularly in an attempt to discredit the victim of fraud- Acorn, in this case...

If the law required ID to register, like it now does to vote almost everywhere, this so-called "problem" would go away... So, uhh, why didn't your team do that when they were in power? Probably because they need some distractions to whine about... Keep the Faithful minions riled up with their panties in a wad, blinded by self-righteous indignation...
 

sandorski

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yeah its probably not the Federal Bureau of Investigation's job to investigate federal voting fraud allegations

That might be part of their jurisdiction. However, there are clear procedures in place for organizations like ACORN to follow and thus I suspect they lay outside the scope of FBI Voter Fraud mandates. Note that ACORN only Registers and does not participate directly in the Voting Process. So technically Voter Registration irregularities are not "Voting Fraud". Also note that what ACORN does is essentially send in spoiled Registrations, which they most often have Identified them as and as they are Legally Obligated to.

There's no need for the FBI to waste Time/Resources on such things.
 

Jhhnn

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yeah its probably not the Federal Bureau of Investigation's job to investigate federal voting fraud allegations

They *did* investigate. Just because they didn't reach the conclusion you want doesn't mean they're wrong to drop it at this point...

But you can still whine, right?
 

werepossum

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Let me re-phrase the OP-

UHH-WAAAHHHH!!!!

Followed by quoted snivelling and whining by Republican registrars...

Righties seem to know that they're really badly outnumbered, so it's important for them to attempt to suppress registration and voting by people not likely to favor them at the polls... hence the raving, raging and foaming at the mouth wrt Acorn...

Hell, some probably follow Acorn staffers around, offer bogus registration information just so they can whine about it later... Think about it- no ID is required to register, so fraud is obviously quite easy, particularly in an attempt to discredit the victim of fraud- Acorn, in this case...

If the law required ID to register, like it now does to vote almost everywhere, this so-called "problem" would go away... So, uhh, why didn't your team do that when they were in power? Probably because they need some distractions to whine about... Keep the Faithful minions riled up with their panties in a wad, blinded by self-righteous indignation...

Obviously why the Democrats fight such measures tooth and nail, because they want to solve the problem by, um, not solving the problem. ID should be required for entrance to Democrat town hall meetings, not trivial things like voting!
 

Jhhnn

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Obviously why the Democrats fight such measures tooth and nail, because they want to solve the problem by, um, not solving the problem. ID should be required for entrance to Democrat town hall meetings, not trivial things like voting!

Denial and distraction, as usual, followed by a circular reasoning romp right back to what you believe in the first place, right?
 

werepossum

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Denial and distraction, as usual, followed by a circular reasoning romp right back to what you believe in the first place, right?

I'M the one in denial? You just blamed ACORN's repeated registration fraud on Republican secret agents!

Must be hard to get your head that far up Obama's ass without losing your magical tin-foil hat. Good to see you're up to it, everybody needs a skill.
 

Ozoned

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I'M the one in denial? You just blamed ACORN's repeated registration fraud on Republican secret agents!

Must be hard to get your head that far up Obama's ass without losing your magical tin-foil hat. Good to see you're up to it, everybody needs a skill.

It's that thin Colorado mountain air. Heh.
 

Jhhnn

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I'M the one in denial? You just blamed ACORN's repeated registration fraud on Republican secret agents!

Must be hard to get your head that far up Obama's ass without losing your magical tin-foil hat. Good to see you're up to it, everybody needs a skill.

When ordinary forms of denial won't serve, there's always insult...

I speculated as to the possibilities, which nobody has denied actually exist. Care to try?
 

werepossum

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When ordinary forms of denial won't serve, there's always insult...

I speculated as to the possibilities, which nobody has denied actually exist. Care to try?
Hell, I thought I paid you a complement.

No, I don't think I'll comment on the likelihood that ACORN is being repeatedly snookered by Republican ninjas. I'll leave you alone in that field.
 

werepossum

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It's that thin Colorado mountain air. Heh.
I suppose. I'm still all puffed up from getting denial, distraction, and a circular reasoning romp all in less than forty words. I rule! (Unless of course he's hallucinating my usual wall of text.)
 

Craig234

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I'M the one in denial? You just blamed ACORN's repeated registration fraud on Republican secret agents!

Must be hard to get your head that far up Obama's ass without losing your magical tin-foil hat. Good to see you're up to it, everybody needs a skill.

It's hard to blame anyone for something that doesn't exist. You just keep on lying.

ACORN handles the occassional wrongful/illegal actions by some employees appropriately.

But by your logic, every retailer who has a clerk steal 'supports theft'.

Idiocy.

Let's review why you and your ilk are attacking ACORN: because you are against democracy. Their crime is helping democracy by registering people you don't want to vote.