Obama accused of undermining marriage by senator.

DominionSeraph

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Why are you posting this here? Disagreeing with a Fundie wackjob site isn't news.

E: Ah, I see; Senator. Welcome to left of the far-right spin zone.
 
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theeedude

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The fact that this guy is a senator tells you everything you need to know about the Republican party.
 

row

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I dont like Obama, but he is NOT undermining marriage. All the sorry assholes getting divorced and beating each other in front of the children are a much bigger problem to the American family system.

i suppose it depends on how you define marriage. california (my state) voted overwhelmingly for proposition 8 - which essentially was a refusal to redefine the word "marriage" to placate a distinct minority whose use of it was and is nothing more than an attempt to legitimize their sexual preference.

so for those that believe the word marriage is defined by a heterosexual union, berrie is obviously undermining it. don't forget that it was only recently that obama "evolved" on this particular subject.

I also dont think he's promoting abortion, but thats another discussion.

since this is for "another discussion", i won't say any more than his voting history (as senator) and presidential policy beg to differ.
 

piasabird

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I thought he was a muslim and under islamic law we can have 3 wives and woman are property. Now I am really confused.
 

ivwshane

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i suppose it depends on how you define marriage. california (my state) voted overwhelmingly for proposition 8 - which essentially was a refusal to redefine the word "marriage" to placate a distinct minority whose use of it was and is nothing more than an attempt to legitimize their sexual preference.

so for those that believe the word marriage is defined by a heterosexual union, berrie is obviously undermining it. don't forget that it was only recently that obama "evolved" on this particular subject.



since this is for "another discussion", i won't say any more than his voting history (as senator) and presidential policy beg to differ.

I guess for you "overwhelmingly", means less than a 5% difference (less than 600K out of 13+ million voters).

"Overwhelmingly" to me would be like how 80% of Americans want some form of gun control or how 75% of Americans think the federal minimum wage should be raised.


The word marriage is defined in terms of tax purposes by the federal government, how you choose to define it personally is not impacted by that one bit.
 

Moonbeam

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My guess is that if all those millions of children who are aborted in his imagination would grow up voting Democrat.
 

FaaR

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i suppose it depends on how you define marriage. california (my state) voted overwhelmingly for proposition 8 - which essentially was a refusal to redefine the word "marriage" to placate a distinct minority whose use of it was and is nothing more than an attempt to legitimize their sexual preference.
Wow. Massive bigotry detected! Homosexual preference IS legitimate. Also - why do you care? Let people live their own lives the way they want, mind your own god damned business, alright? What gives you the impression it's your right to vocally oppress others?

Out of curiosity - most bigots have some sort of contrived reasoning to try and legitimize their wish to oppress a disliked minority - which is yours?

By the way, the "traditional" definition of marriage as commonly held today doesn't even stretch back to the 1950s, which in my book doesn't make it very traditional at all (~2 generations, at best.)

Explain how heterosexual marriage is impacted (negatively, or otherwise) by homosexuals marrying. Answer: you friggin can't. It's just bigotry at work, that's all.
 

nehalem256

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Wow. Massive bigotry detected! Homosexual preference IS legitimate. Also - why do you care? Let people live their own lives the way they want, mind your own god damned business, alright? What gives you the impression it's your right to vocally oppress others?

Out of curiosity - most bigots have some sort of contrived reasoning to try and legitimize their wish to oppress a disliked minority - which is yours?
But part of it was inherent in the battle for marriage, which, after all, takes its very meaning from the quest for public recognition of a couple’s union. The whole point of a wedding, from a cultural perspective, is for a couple to invite their community to recognize and help enforce—indeed to approve of—their union as a positive thing worth supporting. There has always been something a bit disingenuous about gay rights activists insisting that they deserve marital recognition from their society because their relationships are nobody’s business but their own. Marriage is all about making your relationship other people’s business.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/...iendly_as_they.html?google_editors_picks=true

Sounds to me like you just argued against same-sex marriage ;)
 

FaaR

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Sounds to me like you just argued against same-sex marriage ;)
Luckily, I don't take the word of some random opinionated person on the internets as gospel truth. IE, I disagree with your quoted passage.
 

nehalem256

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Luckily, I don't take the word of some random opinionated person on the internets as gospel truth. IE, I disagree with your quoted passage.

So you are saying you have absolutely no conception of what marriage is even on the most basic level.

Seems like your probably shouldn't be commenting on what marriage is then huh?
 

TheSiege

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I wouldn't call anyone PRO abortion, they just feel its their right to decide. I like Bill Clintons view "Abortion should not only be safe and legal, it should be rare."