OAS Votes to Let Cuba Back In

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http://www.foxnews.com/politic...as-votes-readmit-cuba/

The Organization of American States announces it has revoked a 1962 measure suspending Cuba, allowing the Communist nation to re-enter.

AP

Wednesday, June 03, 2009


SAN PEDRO SULA, Honduras -- The Organization of American States announced Wednesday it has revoked a 1962 measure suspending communist Cuba, reversing a landmark of the Cold War in the hemisphere.

"The Cold War has ended this day in San Pedro Sula," said Honduran President Manuel Zelaya immediately following the announcement.

The action was taken "without conditions," Ecuador's Foreign Minister, Fander Falconi, but it does set mechanisms for Cuba's return -- including its agreement to comply with OAS conventions on human rights and other issues.

"This is a moment of rejoicing for all of Latin America," Falconi told reporters after the session. The decision was taken by consensus, meaning the United States accepted it.

Many countries pushed to readmit Cuba without preconditions, but U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton had urged the OAS to require that Cuba made democratic reforms and improve respect for human rights.

Cuba's government, however, has repeatedly said it has no interest in returning to the 34-member organization, which it calls a tool of the United States.

Former Cuban leader Fidel Castro wrote in state newspapers on Wednesday that OAS should not exist and historically has "opened the doors to the Trojan horse" -- the U.S. -- to wreak havoc in Latin America.

The U.S. won Cuba's suspension from the hemispheric body in 1962 as Cuba's government veered into the Socialist bloc. But in recent years, with the tensions of the Cold War fading, Cuba's isolation melted away. Every country in the hemisphere except for the United States has re-established relations with Cuba.

Membership in the OAS gives a country a voice in hemispheric agreements on major issues. The OAS has often tried to mediate solutions to political conflicts and it has offshoots that coordinate health policies and protect human rights.
Clinton left Honduras before the final vote, saying that the organization had been unable to reach consensus on Cuba. The meetings dragged on so long she did not even have time to deliver a prepared speech of 1,500 words before flying out of Honduras to join U.S. President Obama in Egypt.

The Obama administration has hoped its recent overtures to the Cuban government would overcome widespread resentment in the Americas over Washington's long history of isolating Havana.

Clinton spent much of Tuesday pressing OAS members to agree to a formula under which the organization would rescind its 1962 suspension of Cuba but tie its return to democratic reform.

"A number of countries were pushing hard for a simple resolution that would lift the suspension and nothing else, (but) we have been making the case that that is not in the best interests of the OAS," Clinton said.

In doing so, Clinton highlighted the administration's outreach to Cuba over the last four months, noting it had lifted restrictions on money transfers and travel to the island by Americans with family there and was resuming long-stalled immigration and postal service talks.

In her prepared statement for Tuesday's closed session, she acknowledged that "in the past, the U.S. has sometimes taken a counterproductive approach to domestic affairs within the hemisphere that created mistrust and suspicion," according to a copy given to reporters.

But she allowed that the U.S. was "pretty much by itself" in making the demands. She claimed to have made steady progress in convincing moderate nations of their importance to the group's credibility.

Nicaraguan President Daniel Ortega said the United States is continuing to use the OAS as "an instrument of domination" and that Cuba's suspension was due to the support of former conservative Latin American dictators who were "used by the Yankees."

At a news conference the Sandinista leader accused the Obama administration of being no different from previous administrations. "The president has changed, but not American policy," Ortega said.

Honduran President Manuel Zelaya called Cuba's suspension, and the U.S. embargo on the island, a "day of infamy" and a grave injustice. "Friends, it is time to correct that mistake," he told the meeting.

Seriously.....letting the Cubans back in to the swing of things? Will we at least get Cuban cigars out of this deal?
 

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IMO, it's severely retarded to boycott Cuba...while doing so much business with China...A FAR greater threat to the US...not to mention normalizing relations with Vietnam...where over 65,000 US troops died.

End the boycott on Cuba, normalize relations with them, end the policy of accepting Cuban refugees, send all the Cubans in Miami back...:D
 
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Originally posted by: munky
"opened the doors to the Trojan horse" -- the U.S. -- to wreak havoc in Latin America.
Or for the Cubans to wreak havok on the US.

Yeah, what the hell? If this embargo had never existed, we would never have had to hear shit about little Elian.
 

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Cuban cigars/ Oh yeah we'll get them, and they'll be way overpriced for the quality (and counterfeited) just like everywhere else in the world.

And yes, I do smoke cigars, though not nearly as much as I used to.
 

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The Unites States does not really have a Cuban policy, its always been a Cuban immigrant Florida policy. And as the now very aged originals are dying off, those second and third generation Cuban American basically don't have a dream of returning to a liberated Cuba. At the same time Fidel Castro is basically politically retired, his brother Raul is basically running the show, and even Raul does not have much shelf life left.

If things are done even semi correctly, this can be a win win win for everyone.
 

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What about all the property that was seized by the Cuban government when Fidel took over? I hear a lot of Americans that owned land there just flat out lost it. Will they be reimbursed in some way?
 

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Fergit the cigars, thare's oil and natural gas to be drilled in the North Cuba Basin.

China, India, Norway, Spain, Canada, Venezuela and Brazil are splitting up the 'goods' with Cuba.

Cuba and its buddies can produce 600k barrels/day for the next 100 years. Do the math.
 

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Originally posted by: BriGy86
What about all the property that was seized by the Cuban government when Fidel took over? I hear a lot of Americans that owned land there just flat out lost it. Will they be reimbursed in some way?

Hahahahahahahahahahahaha Hahahahahhaha

Oh wait... You're serious?

 

Craig234

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Originally posted by: BriGy86
What about all the property that was seized by the Cuban government when Fidel took over? I hear a lot of Americans that owned land there just flat out lost it. Will they be reimbursed in some way?

Uh, how are the Cubans going to be reimbursed for decades of the US having stolent control over their country?
 

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Originally posted by: BriGy86
What about all the property that was seized by the Cuban government when Fidel took over? I hear a lot of Americans that owned land there just flat out lost it. Will they be reimbursed in some way?

How about some high quality cigars?
 

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Now that we can smoke 'em there's virtually no place left that we can smoke 'em.
 

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Originally posted by: Craig234
Originally posted by: BriGy86
What about all the property that was seized by the Cuban government when Fidel took over? I hear a lot of Americans that owned land there just flat out lost it. Will they be reimbursed in some way?

Uh, how are the Cubans going to be reimbursed for decades of the US having stolent control over their country?

Ummm....Annexation? :D (yeah yeah, I know...old CSA pipe dream...)

I think neither will happen. Best to start with a blank slate once both sides come to their senses about political and trade relations.
 

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Originally posted by: BoomerD
IMO, it's severely retarded to boycott Cuba...while doing so much business with China...A FAR greater threat to the US...not to mention normalizing relations with Vietnam...where over 65,000 US troops died.

End the boycott on Cuba, normalize relations with them, end the policy of accepting Cuban refugees, send all the Cubans in Miami back...:D

I understand that living in California, you're frustrated by illegal immigration. Cubans actually do a lot better economically than other latino immigrants (and better than the national average). Cubans are a model minority.
 

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The cold war has been over for quite awhile its silly to keep this embargo up, what could happen are they going to get nukes from russia again? If we started trading with them maybe not as many cubans would want to come over here if they had a better economic situation at home.
 

AnitaPeterson

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As one who has visited Cuba three times, I can attest to the embargo not working as intended, and representing a silly measure in this day and age.

Mark my words: in one or two years, the Cuban embargo will be gone.