NYTimes Magazine article on 4chan trolls

MaxDepth

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a smug little bastard who gets off on saying shit he would never, ever have the balls to say un-anonymously. (really a word? well, you get the idea I hope)

NY Times article: Malwebolence Includes a write-up on 4chan.


?Lulz? is how trolls keep score. A corruption of ?LOL? or ?laugh out loud,? ?lulz? means the joy of disrupting another?s emotional equilibrium. ?Lulz is watching someone lose their mind at their computer 2,000 miles away while you chat with friends and laugh,? said one ex-troll who, like many people I contacted, refused to disclose his legal identity.

Another troll explained the lulz as a quasi-thermodynamic exchange between the sensitive and the cruel: ?You look for someone who is full of it, a real blowhard. Then you exploit their insecurities to get an insane amount of drama, laughs and lulz. Rules would be simple: 1. Do whatever it takes to get lulz. 2. Make sure the lulz is widely distributed. This will allow for more lulz to be made. 3. The game is never over until all the lulz have been had.?

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Jason Fortuny might be the closest thing this movement of anonymous provocateurs has to a spokesman. Thirty-two years old, he works ?typical Clark Kent I.T.? freelance jobs ? Web design, programming ? but his passion is trolling, ?pushing peoples? buttons.? Fortuny frames his acts of trolling as ?experiments,? sociological inquiries into human behavior. In the fall of 2006, he posted a hoax ad on Craigslist, posing as a woman seeking a ?str8 brutal dom muscular male.? More than 100 men responded. Fortuny posted their names, pictures, e-mail and phone numbers to his blog, dubbing the exposé ?the Craigslist Experiment.? This made Fortuny the most prominent Internet villain in America until November 2007, when his fame was eclipsed by the Megan Meier MySpace suicide. Meier, a 13-year-old Missouri girl, hanged herself with a belt after receiving cruel messages from a boy she?d been flirting with on MySpace. The boy was not a real boy, investigators say, but the fictional creation of Lori Drew, the mother of one of Megan?s former friends. Drew later said she hoped to find out whether Megan was gossiping about her daughter. The story ? respectable suburban wife uses Internet to torment teenage girl ? was a media sensation.

Fortuny?s Craigslist Experiment deprived its subjects of more than just privacy. Two of them, he says, lost their jobs, and at least one, for a time, lost his girlfriend. Another has filed an invasion-of-privacy lawsuit against Fortuny in an Illinois court. After receiving death threats, Fortuny meticulously scrubbed his real address and phone number from the Internet. ?Anyone who knows who and where you are is a security hole,? he told me. ?I own a gun. I have an escape route. If someone comes, I?m ready.?

"Yay, I have a gun!" I think this twerp watched too many Die hard movies.

Changed the thread title to the better of the two thread titles. -Anandtech Moderator DrPizza
 

Baked

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This thread was posted 1st, but w/ the typical fail thread title.
 
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I started to read the article, but after 2 1/2 pages, I gave up because it was kind of boring. But wtf is wrong with those people who were *calling* the parents of the kid who committed suicide?
 

Aharami

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Originally posted by: Brainonska511
I started to read the article, but after 2 1/2 pages, I gave up because it was kind of boring. But wtf is wrong with those people who were *calling* the parents of the kid who committed suicide?

they're retards and even the fat ugly chicks dont come near them?
 

Finalnight

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man, sucks for the troll in WA as the article gave enough information for him to be located and hunted.

And if they are truly screwing with money on the scale they state, sooner or later they will anger the wrong people or governments who can easily hunt them down and execute extrajudicial summary judgement.
 

SphinxnihpS

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Originally posted by: Aharami
Originally posted by: Brainonska511
I started to read the article, but after 2 1/2 pages, I gave up because it was kind of boring. But wtf is wrong with those people who were *calling* the parents of the kid who committed suicide?

they're retards and even the fat ugly chicks dont come near them?

You wish this was true, but in FACT most internet "trolls" are highly intelligent and verbally gifted people, who if pretty, are the types that walk into bars and are instantly surrounded by hordes of the types of young beautiful languid and willing women you will never have.

Don't you just wish being "nice" was sexually attractive?
 

SphinxnihpS

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Originally posted by: Finalnight
man, sucks for the troll in WA as the article gave enough information for him to be located and hunted.

And if they are truly screwing with money on the scale they state, sooner or later they will anger the wrong people or governments who can easily hunt them down and execute extrajudicial summary judgement.

You're just fucking high.
 

Finalnight

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Originally posted by: SphinxnihpS
Originally posted by: Finalnight
man, sucks for the troll in WA as the article gave enough information for him to be located and hunted.

And if they are truly screwing with money on the scale they state, sooner or later they will anger the wrong people or governments who can easily hunt them down and execute extrajudicial summary judgement.

You're just fucking high.

pot. kettle. black.
 

skace

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Wow I read that whole thing and it was pretty damn enjoyable to read. Completely not what I expected.

I'm surprised the author didn't bring up the subject of debate though. People who are schooled in debate will pick up a lot of these trolling tactics 10x quicker than the average person. Perhaps we don't teach our kids enough about this aspect of life, about the battle of wits, that someone could pick a mental fight with you and not be as obvious as the bully who just wants your lunch money.
 

SphinxnihpS

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Originally posted by: Baked
This thread was posted 1st, but w/ the typical fail thread title.

Sometimes I agree with your ignorant racist ass. Life is so fantastic!
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: SphinxnihpS
Originally posted by: Aharami
Originally posted by: Brainonska511
I started to read the article, but after 2 1/2 pages, I gave up because it was kind of boring. But wtf is wrong with those people who were *calling* the parents of the kid who committed suicide?

they're retards and even the fat ugly chicks dont come near them?

You wish this was true, but in FACT most internet "trolls" are highly intelligent and verbally gifted people, who if pretty, are the types that walk into bars and are instantly surrounded by hordes of the types of young beautiful languid and willing women you will never have.

Don't you just wish being "nice" was sexually attractive?



hahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahah oh man.



anyway. i don't beleive half of what that article claims.


 

SphinxnihpS

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Originally posted by: skace
Wow I read that whole thing and it was pretty damn enjoyable to read. Completely not what I expected.

I'm surprised the author didn't bring up the subject of debate though. People who are schooled in debate will pick up a lot of these trolling tactics 10x quicker than the average person. Perhaps we don't teach our kids enough about this aspect of life, about the battle of wits, that someone could pick a mental fight with you and not be as obvious as the bully who just wants your lunch money.

The Wired article on "griefers", is more intelligently written and less judgmental.
 

Ns1

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SphinxnihpS is a /b/tard. This would explain everything. EVERYTHING.
 

Aharami

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Originally posted by: SphinxnihpS
Originally posted by: Aharami
Originally posted by: Brainonska511
I started to read the article, but after 2 1/2 pages, I gave up because it was kind of boring. But wtf is wrong with those people who were *calling* the parents of the kid who committed suicide?

they're retards and even the fat ugly chicks dont come near them?

You wish this was true, but in FACT most internet "trolls" are highly intelligent and verbally gifted people, who if pretty, are the types that walk into bars and are instantly surrounded by hordes of the types of young beautiful languid and willing women you will never have.

Don't you just wish being "nice" was sexually attractive?

the two pictures posted on the nytimes article only reaffirm what I was saying.
 
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Originally posted by: Ns1
SphinxnihpS is a /b/tard. This would explain everything. EVERYTHING.

I wish we could trade SphinxhipS for JLGatsby - now he was a fun troll to read.
 

SphinxnihpS

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Originally posted by: Ns1
SphinxnihpS is a /b/tard. This would explain everything. EVERYTHING.

4chan is for teh n00bs0rZ. I have no presence there.

EDIT: Also, you ability with hyperbole is astounding!
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: Brainonska511
Originally posted by: Ns1
SphinxnihpS is a /b/tard. This would explain everything. EVERYTHING.

I wish we could trade SphinxhipS for JLGatsby - now he was a fun troll to read.

hell i would even trade him fo pab!
 

Ns1

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Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Brainonska511
Originally posted by: Ns1
SphinxnihpS is a /b/tard. This would explain everything. EVERYTHING.

I wish we could trade SphinxhipS for JLGatsby - now he was a fun troll to read.

hell i would even trade him fo pab!

I WOULD TRADE HIM FOR JERBOY
 

SphinxnihpS

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Originally posted by: Aharami
Originally posted by: SphinxnihpS
Originally posted by: Aharami
Originally posted by: Brainonska511
I started to read the article, but after 2 1/2 pages, I gave up because it was kind of boring. But wtf is wrong with those people who were *calling* the parents of the kid who committed suicide?

they're retards and even the fat ugly chicks dont come near them?

You wish this was true, but in FACT most internet "trolls" are highly intelligent and verbally gifted people, who if pretty, are the types that walk into bars and are instantly surrounded by hordes of the types of young beautiful languid and willing women you will never have.

Don't you just wish being "nice" was sexually attractive?

the two pictures posted on the nytimes article only reaffirm what I was saying.

"...if pretty".

read much?
 

Aharami

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Originally posted by: SphinxnihpS
Originally posted by: Aharami
Originally posted by: SphinxnihpS
Originally posted by: Aharami
Originally posted by: Brainonska511
I started to read the article, but after 2 1/2 pages, I gave up because it was kind of boring. But wtf is wrong with those people who were *calling* the parents of the kid who committed suicide?

they're retards and even the fat ugly chicks dont come near them?

You wish this was true, but in FACT most internet "trolls" are highly intelligent and verbally gifted people, who if pretty, are the types that walk into bars and are instantly surrounded by hordes of the types of young beautiful languid and willing women you will never have.

Don't you just wish being "nice" was sexually attractive?

the two pictures posted on the nytimes article only reaffirm what I was saying.

"...if pretty".

read much?

why dont you post some pictures of so called "pretty" trolls and prove your point?