Nytimes - Iqbal decision used to dismiss civil lawsuits

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http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/21/us/21bar.html?hp

Sleeper Decision Could Have Impact on Litigation
By ADAM LIPTAK
Published: July 20, 2009

The most consequential decision of the Supreme Court?s last term got only a little attention when it landed in May. And what attention it got was for the wrong reason.

But the lower courts have certainly understood the significance of the decision, Ashcroft v. Iqbal, which makes it much easier for judges to dismiss civil lawsuits right after they are filed. They have cited it more than 500 times in just the last two months.

?Iqbal is the most significant Supreme Court decision in a decade for day-to-day litigation in the federal courts,?
said Thomas C. Goldstein, an appellate lawyer with Akin Gump Strauss Hauer & Feld in Washington.

On its face, the Iqbal decision concerned the aftermath of the Sept. 11 attacks. The court ruled that a Muslim man swept up on immigration charges could not sue two Bush administration officials for what he said was the terrible abuse he suffered in detention.

But something much deeper and broader was going on in the decision, something that may unsettle how civil litigation is conducted in the United States. Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, who dissented from the decision, told a group of federal judges last month that the ruling was both important and dangerous. ?In my view,? she said, ?the court?s majority messed up the federal rules? governing civil litigation.

For more than half a century, it has been clear that all a plaintiff had to do to start a lawsuit was to file what the rules call ?a short and plain statement of the claim? in a document called a complaint. Having filed such a bare-bones complaint, plaintiffs were entitled to force defendants to open their files and submit to questioning under oath.

This approach, particularly when coupled with the American requirement that each side pay its own lawyers no matter who wins, gave plaintiffs settlement leverage. Just by filing a lawsuit, a plaintiff could subject a defendant to great cost and inconvenience during the pre-trial fact-finding process called discovery.

Mark Herrmann, a corporate defense lawyer with Jones Day in Chicago, said the Iqbal decision will allow for the dismissal of cases that would otherwise have subjected defendants to millions of dollars in discovery costs. On the other hand, information about wrongdoing is often secret. Plaintiffs claiming they were the victims of employment discrimination, a defective product, an antitrust conspiracy or a policy of harsh treatment in detention may not know exactly who harmed them and how before filing suit. But plaintiffs can learn valuable information during discovery.

The Iqbal decision now requires plaintiffs to come forward with concrete facts at the outset, and it instructs lower court judges to dismiss lawsuits that strike them as implausible.

?Determining whether a complaint states a plausible claim for relief,? Justice Anthony M. Kennedy wrote for the five-justice majority, ?requires the reviewing court to draw on its judicial experience and common sense.?

Note those words: Plausible. Common sense.

The old world was mechanical. A lawsuit that mouthed the required words was off and running. As the Supreme Court said in 1957 in Conley v. Gibson, a lawsuit should be allowed to go forward ?unless it appears beyond doubt that the plaintiff can prove no set of facts in support of his claim which would entitle him to relief.? Things started to change two years ago, when the Supreme Court found a complaint in an antitrust suit implausible.

In the new world, after Iqbal, a lawsuit has to satisfy a skeptical judicial gatekeeper.


?It obviously licenses highly subjective judgments,? said Stephen B. Burbank, an authority on civil procedure at the University of Pennsylvania Law School. ?This is a blank check for federal judges to get rid of cases they disfavor.?

Courts applying Iqbal have been busy. A federal judge in Connecticut dismissed a disability discrimination suit this month, saying that Iqbal required her to treat the plaintiff?s assertions as implausible. A few days later, the federal appeals court in New York dismissed a breach of contract and securities fraud suit after concluding that its account of the defendants? asserted wrongdoing was too speculative.

The judge hearing the claims of the falsely accused Duke lacrosse players has asked for briefing on whether their lawsuit against Durham, N.C., can pass muster under Iqbal. But the judge considering a case against John Yoo, the former Bush administration lawyer, said it could move forward despite Iqbal because the suit contained specific allegations about Mr. Yoo?s conduct in justifying the use of harsh interrogation methods.

In the Iqbal case itself, Javaid Iqbal, a Pakistani Muslim who was working as cable television installer on Long Island, said he was subjected to intrusive searches and vicious beatings after being arrested on identity fraud charges two months after 9/11.

Justice Kennedy said Mr. Iqbal suit against two officialshad not cleared the plausibility bar.All Mr. Iqbal?s complaint plausibly suggested, Justice Kennedy wrote, ?is that the nation?s top law enforcement officers, in the aftermath of a devastating terrorist attack, sought to keep suspected terrorists in the most secure conditions available.?

Justice David H. Souter, said the majority had adopted a crabbed view of plausibility and had in the process upended the civil litigation system.

In his dissent in Iqbal, Justice Souter wrote that judges should accept the allegations in a complaint as true ?no matter how skeptical the court may be.?

?The sole exception to this rule,? Justice Souter continued, ?lies with allegations that are sufficiently fantastic to defy reality as we know it: claims about little green men, or the plaintiff?s recent trip to Pluto, or experiences in time travel.?

But that is no longer the law. Under the Iqbal decision, federal judges will now decide at the very start of a litigation whether the plaintiff?s allegations ring true, and they will close the courthouse door if they do not.

I'm curious what others think of the article, both for its assertion that Iqbal is having a major effect on civil litigation and that giving the judiciary more discretion to dismiss cases early is "bad". I personally agree with Souter that if frivolous claims are a valid and pervasive problem, it's enough to allow judicial discretion in rejecting clearly preposterous or unprovable claims (ie. being able to fly like superman outside of hollywood).
 

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I don't see how this is a bad thing... unless I have evidence that you wronged me, I can't sue. The article says that cases which seem implausible should be thrown out.

It would be interesting to see a study on how many lawsuits are filed each year, how many are thrown out eventually, and how many of all those could have been thrown out at the get-go saving this country untold amounts of money.
 

theeedude

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Another "strict constructionist" 5:4 decision by the Roberts court. Why have jury decide allegations after hearing evidence if you can have the judge do it before?
 

CrackRabbit

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Originally posted by: bbdub333
I don't see how this is a bad thing... unless I have evidence that you wronged me, I can't sue. The article says that cases which seem implausible should be thrown out.

It would be interesting to see a study on how many lawsuits are filed each year, how many are thrown out eventually, and how many of all those could have been thrown out at the get-go saving this country untold amounts of money.

So what if you were wronged but had no physical evidence to present, or it was all being held by the party being sued?

While the system we have is certainly imperfect and vulnerable to filing of frivolous suits, it is better than having a gatekeeper in place that can throw your suit out before it is even heard.
 

theeedude

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I am sure right-wingers are going to be all for it until a judge uses it to dismiss some 2nd amendment claim, then they'll change their mind in a hurry.
 

Infohawk

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Originally posted by: OCguy
Sounds good.

Except our whole system is based on DUE PROCESS. A judge making a judgment call as to plausibility at the beginning of a civil case (when evidence is out there but needs to be discovered) is problematic. This is not the way to deal with frivolous claims. The solution to frivolous claims is to punish people once they have had their claims shown to be completely baseless.
 

Moonbeam

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We need to lift the ban on dueling so people can get justice themselves. Duels can take place in a cemetery where each participant has to shoot at the other from a grave he has pre-dug and the only expense being that the winner has to shovel the dirt back in each hole.
 

piasabird

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The ruling has some merit. It changes discovery quite a bit. Now they will have to do enough discover on their own, to show they have a valid case. Maybe the ruling will be overturned later.
 

Fern

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Originally posted by: senseamp
Another "strict constructionist" 5:4 decision by the Roberts court. Why have jury decide allegations after hearing evidence if you can have the judge do it before?

How is this in any way "strict constructionist"?

I'm unaware of anything in the Constitution that directly addresses this issue, I see no way for it involve any 'strict construction' of the Constitution.
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Looks to me more like a shifting of the standard from the 1957 Conley standard of "beyond a reasonable doubt" (required for outright dismissal) to an apparently more laxed standard of "whether a complaint states a plausible claim for relief".

Regardless, both rely upon the judgement of judges.

I do see a benefit: it will be harder to use the courts for 'fishing expeditions' and bullying, perhaps innocent, parties with the threat of expensive and time consuming discovery and litigation expenses.

No doubt trial lawyers hate this.

I suppose some may claim that this inhibits victims from furthering their case, OTOH whenever I've personally considered litigation I start from premise that I must have at least (more really) a plausable case; why hire an attorney otherwise? Funding losing lawsuits is not an objective of mine, of course I've never sought to use the court as 'stick' to beat somebody into submission with. That's a rich man's 'game'.

All-in-all might stop the wealthier who can afford such litigation from threatening the rest of us.

Unless I missed it, the article doesn't mention whether a judge's determination that a suit lacks plausibility is subject to review/appeal. If an appeal/review is possible then I'm not sure this will turn out to be as big a problem as some fear. If your suit is dismissed with predjudice (can NOT re-file it) then I have a problem with that.

Fern
 

Jaskalas

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Originally posted by: Infohawk
Originally posted by: OCguy
Sounds good.

Except our whole system is based on DUE PROCESS.

I imagine due processs was intended for criminal matters to which this does not apply. Where the defendant goes up against his government to prove himself innocent. Civil matters are something else, no?

Not to mention there still has to be due process for any civil lawsuit where a person is found guilty. No one will be liable or found guilty without due process. So then how can you even bring up that subject?

This is not the way to deal with frivolous claims.

Perhaps not, frankly I see it as a mixed bag. Good and bad points for either side of it. I will not vouch for either as I simply don't know the system enough.
 

Fern

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Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: Infohawk
Originally posted by: OCguy
Sounds good.

Except our whole system is based on DUE PROCESS.

I imagine due processs was intended for criminal matters to which this does not apply. Where the defendant goes up against his government to prove himself innocent. Civil matters are something else, no?
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I think you are right.

The concept/principal of Due process is applicable to legal interactions betweens a citizen/person and the government. Civil suits are between 2 persons/citizens (or ficticious entities such as corporations), not between the government and a citizen.

Due Process is found in the Constitution, but it addresses rights/limitations of fed gov vs state gov and people vs gov, I don't recall anything at all about civil suits.

Fern

 

MotF Bane

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Still not perfect, but it's something. If you were sued prior to this, you were basically fucked. Win or lose, it's a lot of money to fight back.
 

BoberFett

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Originally posted by: senseamp
Another "strict constructionist" 5:4 decision by the Roberts court. Why have jury decide allegations after hearing evidence if you can have the judge do it before?

Wait, I thought lefty loonies such as yourself loved this sort of thing, and only righties complained about activist judges? I swear, it's impossible to tell you freaks apart nowadays.
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: BoberFett
Originally posted by: senseamp
Another "strict constructionist" 5:4 decision by the Roberts court. Why have jury decide allegations after hearing evidence if you can have the judge do it before?

Wait, I thought lefty loonies such as yourself loved this sort of thing, and only righties complained about activist judges? I swear, it's impossible to tell you freaks apart nowadays.

What is your opinion.
 

Infohawk

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Originally posted by: Fern
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: Infohawk
Originally posted by: OCguy
Sounds good.

Except our whole system is based on DUE PROCESS.

I imagine due processs was intended for criminal matters to which this does not apply. Where the defendant goes up against his government to prove himself innocent. Civil matters are something else, no?
-snip-

I think you are right.
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Fern

Due process pretty much applies to the entire legal system, including civil suits. Check out Wikipedia for a brief lesson. If it didn't, the entire legal system would be ridiculous. Why would we give up due process in a dispute between private parties? Justice isn't just about limiting government, it's about resolving disputes between private parties too. An another idea that goes hand in hand with this one is that you are entitled to a jury trial in almost all civil suits too.



 

Fern

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Originally posted by: Infohawk
Originally posted by: Fern
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: Infohawk
Originally posted by: OCguy
Sounds good.

Except our whole system is based on DUE PROCESS.

I imagine due processs was intended for criminal matters to which this does not apply. Where the defendant goes up against his government to prove himself innocent. Civil matters are something else, no?
-snip-

I think you are right.
-snip-
Fern

Due process pretty much applies to the entire legal system, including civil suits. Check out Wikipedia for a brief lesson. If it didn't, the entire legal system would be ridiculous. Why would we give up due process in a dispute between private parties? Justice isn't just about limiting government, it's about resolving disputes between private parties too. An another idea that goes hand in hand with this one is that you are entitled to a jury trial in almost all civil suits too.

I checked it out, as well several legal sites (including one with the history of concept going back to the Magna Charter) before making my post.

Doesn't look like it applies in civil suits unless you want to interpret the term so broadly as to mean "fairness", but that is unlike what our Constitution refers to as DP (it's a narrower interpretation).

Fern
 

Infohawk

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Originally posted by: Fern
I checked it out, as well several legal sites (including one with the history of concept going back to the Magna Charter) before making my post.

Doesn't look like it applies in civil suits unless you want to interpret the term so broadly as to mean "fairness", but that is unlike what our Constitution refers to as DP (it's a narrower interpretation).

Fern

I'm sorry I didn't realize you were using an imaginary definition of due process.