I wonder if some of the posters think foods normally created with trans fats (say frenchfries) are being banned (they aren't) and they would be hard pressed to tell the difference once the new oils are used.
I wonder if some of the posters think foods normally created with trans fats (say frenchfries) are being banned (they aren't) and they would be hard pressed to tell the difference once the new oils are used.
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you don't see this as a bad thing????!!! let's take for example a doughnut. if i want a doughnut, then i should be able to have it with all the icky stuff that it was fried in, knowing that was part of the taste i so craved. after july 2008, doughnuts won't taste the same! (thank goodness i don't live in NYC). why should i pay the price for the people who eat boxful of doughnuts or people who have heart disease or susceptible to getting it? how 'bout instead of doing-away with trans fat, tell people to eat in moderation...or if the govt or employers really cared, they'd have wellness programs in place BEFORE people develop a chronic condition.
So if say an artifical sweetner was shown to say cause cancer, it shouldn't be banned because soda might taste slightly different?
Asbestos in my insulation doesn't affect others outside of those in my house, we should allow asbestos and just inform people of its problems. In fact, put some asbestos in my food while you're at it, it's obviously your choice and your choice alone to ingest it. Maybe toss some arsenic in there while you're at it.
The difference between smoking and trans fat oils is that there are healthy alternatives to trans fat oils (that were used prior to the creation of trans fat oils for the sake of saving cost on having fresher oils) but many restaurants (in particular, fast food restaurants) opt not to use them. There's isn't an alternative to smoking currently for people who enjoy smoking. You're obviously not going to taste a difference between normal oil and partially hydrogenated oil. So, what's your complaint? Is it that you just like whining? Have your precious liberties been trampled? If you think they have, then you're just looking to pick a fight wherever you can.
This is F'n Bullsh1t. I should be able to eat any damned thing I want. WTF. Are they going to tell me that no one can have regular pop and everyone must have diet pop next?
This is crap and I DO NOT approve. Let me live my own life how I want.
This is crap and I DO NOT approve. Let me live my own life how I want.
How do you even know the doughnuts won't taste the same? No amount of trans fat is good for you as your body has no way of removing it from your system. Taking it in moderation but at a consistent rate will still lead to the same problems, just later on. Trans fats don't just affect those with heart conditions. My god, at least do some research on the topic at hand if you're going to comment. You act like those who have heart attacks are the ones that put this ban through. It was enacted by those who don't see any benefit of having trans fats around because science has proven that it has none to give. It doesn't even have a taste benefit. If you can't stand living without your partially hydrogenated oils, go buy some crisco and oreos.
I bet the majority of the whiners in this thread don't realize that these foods were just as popular when right before they implimented these trans fats as they are now.
Basic economic theory states that removing trans fat either :
A - Tastes worse
B - Costs more
The reason being, if it tasted better and costs the same or less, it would dominate the market already and wouldn't be an issue.
No one is stopping you. Go cook your own turkey in what ever fats you want. You CAN eat anything you want. But restuarants aren't allowed to prepare food for sale by means that already include a zillion requirements, this is just one more.
Sheesh, I swear you guys think you can't eat your donuts anymore.
My god, I honestly don't know what to say to you posters. It only affects restaurants. You want your fix of some trans fats, go eat some crisco. What restaurants serve affects everyone and not just you. What you cook at home, affects only you, so feel free to do whatever.
The answer is B, that is all. These complaints about the removal of trans fats are probably as ludacris as the complaints about the removal of lead from our paints and fuels....
Of course it costs more. Has nothing to do with tastes. It was created so that the oils had a longer shelf date. So, are you saying that the general publics' health is less important than profits for a corporation?
YES OMG WHAT NEXT??? FIRST HEROIN AND COCAINE, WHAT NEXT, ASPIRIN?? THE GOV'T IS GOING CRAZY IN CONTROL!!!
Honestly, how much work does it take to be this uninformed regarding what partially hydrogenated oils are and still manage to log onto Anandtech to make these posts. If you can't even distinguish the diffrences between different types of fats, maybe you should refrain from commenting.
I NEVER cook at home. I eat taco bell / other fast food several times a week for lunch. For dinner, I go to restaurants or other fast food. I do not cook at home. Now they are telling me I cannot eat as I once did. If someone doesn't want to eat trans fats, have them not go to the restaurants that use it. If society really wanted to rid them of trans fats then let the economy do it, don't let the damned government control every facet of companies.
You'd be surprised how far the typical ATOT poster goes to remain ignorant. However if you really want to be impressed you have to look at ATP&N
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apples & oranges. things that are outright toxic should be banned (like your artificial sweetener example), but if u're indirectly saying that trans fat causes heart disease, yeah right. it is only when ppl eat in excess do they get diseases or if the were already genetically predisposed.
using your artificial sweetener example, why aren't cigarettes or hard-liquor banned?
The sweetner example wasn't toxic and only few people would have become sick from it (don't have the full numbers, would have to search). I doubt the scale is much off from the trans fat example however, so how is it apples & oranges?
If you can create something that has the same effect as cigarettes without the side effects, then you'd have an accurate comparison. Trans fat oils don't make you feel calmer. They don't make you feel better. They have zero benefits other than to allow you to make posts like the ones you have regarding the glory of personal freedoms to do whatever you want.
You complain that you can't eat the way you want anymore. What the hell are you talking about? Continue driving through that fast food lane and continue purchasing the same damn food. Taco Bell (and Yum Foods in general, which includes Taco Bell, KFC, Long John Silvers, Pizza Hut, etc) has already announced the removal of trans fats from their food nationwide so I guess your world is ending my friend. Good luck to you. Please don't commit suicide as you don't have that right either.
Obviously, you haven't looked into what trans fats are. Read up on how much trans fats scientists recommend for a person and you'll find that it's trace amounts. Not because trace amounts are good for you. On the contrary, because any amount of trans fats is bad for you. It's not a matter of limiting yourself, it's a matter of removing it altogether.
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