NY times weekend gun report

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Friday:

A 25-year-old man suffering from spina bifida was shot and killed after three gunmen ambushed him in a Bronx, N.Y., apartment building Friday night. A 17-year-old boy was shot in the arm as he exited a house party in Freeport, N.Y., Friday night. Sammie Dyron Leake, 47, and his niece, 24-year-old Nikesha Travarea Jones, were found shot to death in the home they shared in Cross Hill, S.C., Friday afternoon. A woman told police that she fatally shot her boyfriend, 37-year-old Herbert Aragon Jr., when he returned home early from a business trip and she mistook him for an intruder in Moneta, Va., Friday morning.

A pizza delivery driver in his 30s was shot and killed on the south side of Indianapolis Friday night. A girl, either a child or a teenager, was shot in the Orange Mound neighborhood of Memphis, Tenn., Friday evening. A man was shot in the leg when a man in his 40s opened fire on a homeless encampment near the Chinatown International District of Seattle, Wash., early Friday. A man was killed and a woman was wounded in a shooting outside a southwest Houston, Tex., nightclub early Friday.
A man was robbed and shot outside a southwest Houston apartment Friday night. Jose Luzon, 20, was shot in the face in an apartment on the north side of Lebanon, Pa., Friday afternoon. A man was shot in the leg and wounded in Morristown, N.J., Friday afternoon. Two Michigan State University students were shot, one fatally, in an off-campus apartment in East Lansing, Mich., Friday evening. A man walked into a hospital with a gunshot wound to the leg in the Midtown-Edmondson neighborhood of Baltimore, Md., Friday evening. Later that night, a man was shot in the torso and critically wounded in east Baltimore.

A man showed up at a Nashville, Tenn., hospital with a gunshot wound to the knee late Thursday. A man was found to be shot in the leg when he was stopped at a police checkpoint in Nashville Friday night. Tatiana Klamo, 46, and her son, 15-year-old Robert Klamo, were found shot to death in a home in Highlands Ranch, Colo., Friday afternoon, and police believe it was a murder-suicide. One person was shot and critically wounded in Columbus, Ohio, Friday night.

A 74-year-old woman was shot during a home invasion robbery on the east side of Cleveland, Ohio, early Friday. A man was shot in the leg in a domestic shooting in a home in DeFuniak Springs, Fla., early Friday, and a woman in the home had a cut lip, black eye, marks on her face and multiple bruises on her arms. A man was shot and wounded in Dayton, Ohio, Friday afternoon. A man in his mid-20s showed up at a friend’s home in Dayton after suffering a gunshot wound Friday night.

Joseph Pete Castner, 24, was found shot in the shoulder and knee in front of a bar in Lubbock, Tex., early Friday. Ramon Martinez, 52, who was shot in the head and neck in a bar in Delano, Calif., on Jan. 20, has died. James Bledsoe, 77, has died nearly three months after his grandson allegedly shot him multiple times in Little Rock, Ark. A 24-year-old man was shot and wounded in Milwaukee, Wis., Thursday night. A 34-year-old man was shot and wounded during a robbery on the north side of Milwaukee late Friday.

Richard C. Ward, 63, accidentally shot himself in the thigh with his handgun in his home in Oregon City, Ore., Thursday. Two people were shot during a robbery attempt in Baton Rouge, La., Friday night. A 52-year-old homeless man was found shot and killed in a storage shed behind a home in Baton Rouge Friday morning. A man was shot in the leg during a robbery attempt in Myrtle Beach, S.C., Friday morning. Jovan Holden, 25, was shot in the leg in Bridgeport, Conn., Friday afternoon. Philip Liddell, 19, was shot and killed in west Jackson, Miss., Friday afternoon. A 15-year-old boy was shot and wounded in the front yard of a home in Okolona, Miss., Friday night.

Eliakim Dunbar, 26, was found with a gunshot wound in a car that had overturned and crashed into a guard station at a Marriott Hotel in Savannah, Ga., early Friday. Police found a man who had been shot in the hip after being robbed while walking down a sidewalk in Lexington, Ky., Thursday night. Ervin Phillip Ingraham and Ronnetta Hurley-Brown, both 21, were found shot to death in a Southeast Washington, D.C., apartment Thursday afternoon.

A woman was shot in the head while sitting in her car at an Appomattox, Va., gas station Friday afternoon. A woman was found shot and killed in a car near an apartment complex on the southeast side of Richmond, Va., early Friday. A man was shot after his girlfriend’s purse was stolen in north Philadelphia, Pa., late Thursday. A 15-year-old boy and his 19-year-old cousin were wounded when someone opened fire in north Philadelphia Friday night. Thuy Phan, 48, shot and killed her 24-year-old son, Vincent, before killing herself in Lawrenceville, Ga., Thursday night.

Scott Arthur Croop, 39, a Navy veteran, shot his wife, Kara Elizabeth Croop, 33, multiple times before killing himself on the street outside their home in Royse City, Tex., Friday morning. A man was shot to death when a fight at Gamehaus Gastropub in McAllen, Tex., spilled outside early Friday. A man was shot and killed and a woman was wounded when an argument in the reception hall of Cool Runnings Bar and Grill in Houston, Tex., spilled into the parking lot early Friday. Bruce Wagner, 48, was shot to death after being threatened with a sword in northeast Crosby, Tex., Friday afternoon. A female restaurant employee was robbed and shot while opening up in Louisville, Ky., Friday morning.

Derreck Almanzar, 24, was shot in the head and killed in Providence, R.I., early Friday. Thomas Sonnenberg, a 69-year-old retiree, was shot in the head after he opened his home to a man who claimed he was being chased by assailants in north Minneapolis, Minn., Friday morning. A 31-year-old man was shot by a mentally ill panhandler on a bus during the Friday morning commute in the Brownsville neighborhood of Brooklyn, N.Y. A man in his early 20s was shot and killed in his home in northwest Atlanta, Ga., Thursday night.

A 19-year-old man was shot in the buttocks during a home invasion in Springfield, Mass., early Friday. A man was shot outside a home southwest of Modesto, Calif., Friday evening. A 21-year-old man was shot twice and wounded near his home in Calumet City, Ill., Thursday night. A 28-year-old man was shot and wounded in Newark, N.J., Thursday evening. Derrick Brown, 34, was shot and wounded at an apartment complex in Hamilton, Ohio, early Friday. A man was shot in the arm and wounded in Stockton, Calif., Thursday afternoon.

Varnouard Hall, 33, was found dead with a gunshot wound to his head in New Haven, Conn., Friday night. A man was shot and wounded near a middle school in east San Jose, Calif., Friday night. Samuel Gibson, 21, was shot and killed during an argument in a convenience store in Rochester, N.Y., late Friday. Frederick Blakely, 40, was shot in the chest and killed after trying to outrace another driver on I-59 in Tuscaloosa, Ala., Thursday night. A man was shot in the head and sustained a hit-and-run car crash in Jacksonville, Fla., Friday night.

A man was wounded in a gang-related shooting in Long Beach, Calif., Friday night. A man was shot in the leg after an argument in Moss Point, Miss., Thursday night. Steven Gilbert, 34, was shot several times and killed in the East Price Hill neighborhood of Cincinnati, Ohio, Friday night. Armando Rivera, 25, was shot following a verbal exchange in Oxnard, Calif., Friday afternoon. A man was wounded when someone opened fire at a crowded funeral home in Pico Rivera, Calif., Friday evening. A 15-year-old girl was shot and wounded in the parking lot of North High School in Des Moines, Iowa, Friday night

Saturday:

A 6-year-old boy playing in the backyard of his home was wounded when his 16-year-old neighbor shot him in the shoulder with a high-powered BB gun in Wareham, Mass., Saturday. A man believed to be a Ferris State University student was shot at an off-campus apartment complex in Big Rapids, Mich., early Saturday. Diallo Henderson, 42, was found shot to death by his roommate in their apartment in Nashville, Tenn., early Saturday. A man was wounded and his wife shot and killed herself in an attempted murder-suicide in Dora, Ala., Saturday afternoon.

A 26-year-old man was shot and killed in front of his 5-year-old child in west Phoenix, Ariz., early Saturday, and 24-year-old Ashley Eide, with whom he was romantically involved, was arrested. Brent Thomas Posada, 34, was shot in the stomach while standing on a sidewalk in Redding, Calif., Saturday evening. A man was shot while answering a knock at his door on the near north side of Indianapolis early Saturday. A man was found fatally shot in the head and hanging out of a car on the east side of Detroit early Saturday.

A 20-year-old man was shot and wounded on the west end of Cincinnati early Saturday. Justin Russell, a 31-year-old sex offender, was shot to death during an argument in Lake County, Fla., early Saturday. Jason K. Starchman, 29, was found shot to death in a front yard in Lee’s Summit, Mo., early Saturday. Alfredo D. Jobel, 28, was found shot and killed on a sidewalk in Durham, N.C., Saturday afternoon. A woman was shot twice and killed by a home invader in Harvey, La., early Saturday.

A woman was shot and killed at an apartment complex in Aurora, Colo., early Saturday. A woman was wounded by gunfire in the Hunters Point neighborhood of San Francisco, Calif., Saturday morning. A woman was shot multiple times and wounded near the checkout lanes at a Walmart in Conway, Ark., Saturday night. Carlos Jefferson, 22, and Julius Douglas, 23, were killed in a drug-related shooting in Indianapolis, Ind., early Saturday. A man was shot in the leg in San Leandro, Calif., early Saturday. A woman was shot and killed in the parking lot outside El Nopal Mexican Restaurant in Fulton County, Ga., early Saturday.

A man was shot while protecting his sister from her ex-boyfriend, 29-year-old Dustin Hoffman, who had been stalking her in Honey Brook, Pa., early Saturday. Hoffman, the father of her two children, then turned the gun on himself. A man was found shot and critically wounded on someone’s doorstep in Osceola County, Fla., Saturday. Aairon Sparkman, 19, was found shot to death after a fire in a vacant building in St. Louis, Mo., early Saturday. Derundarae C. Smith, 19, was found shot in the back and killed in east St. Louis Saturday afternoon.

A man was shot and wounded in Hamilton, Ohio, early Saturday. A man was shot and wounded in the parking lot of a lounge in Pickering, Ohio, early Saturday. A man foaming at the mouth walked into a barbershop and shot one of the barbers in the leg in east New Orleans Saturday morning. A teenage boy was shot in the chest in the East Liberty neighborhood of Pittsburgh, Pa., Saturday evening. Geraldine Jackson, 71, was shot and killed by her nephew, 39-year-old Michael Thompson Jr., following an argument in Aiken, S.C., Saturday night. An 18-year-old man who was robbed and shot in the leg then stole a vehicle and drove himself to the hospital, striking the building, in Des Moines Saturday night.

A 35-year-old man and a 15-year-old boy were shot and killed outside the Oakland Boys & Girls Club in west Oakland, Calif., Saturday night. Marquail Hellams, 19, was found shot to death on a gravel road in Greenville County, S.C., Saturday morning. A 17-year-old boy was shot in the chest, arm and buttocks in a possibly gang-related incident in the Rainier Valley in Seattle, Wash., late Saturday. A 33-year-old man was accidentally shot in the head at a home in Wellford, S.C., Saturday night, and John Phillip Thompson, 39, was charged with unlawful possession of a pistol. Erica D. Stigall, 35, was found shot to death in her apartment in Cleveland, Ohio, Saturday afternoon. A man and a woman were found shot to death in a northwest Austin, Tex., apartment Saturday morning.

Sunday
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A 13-year-old boy is fighting for his life after being shot at a house party in Indianapolis early Sunday. A man was shot multiple times and critically wounded outside a Super Bowl party in Denver, Colo., Saturday night. A woman was shot in the buttocks during a home invasion robbery at a Super Bowl party in Mineral, Va., Sunday night. A man who stopped to aid the victims of a home invasion was shot in the leg in Houston early Sunday.

Etta Medley, 61, was shot in the stomach by her brother-in-law, Tommy Meadows, 64, before services at Double Springs Community Church in Cookeville, Tenn., Sunday morning. Meadows then shot himself to death in the church basement. A 53-year-old homeless man was found shot to death in a parking lot in Pomona, Calif., Sunday morning. A 34-year-old woman was fatally shot and Melissa Thomas, 29, was wounded during a purse-snatching in west Philadelphia early Sunday, the second such incident in three days.

Joshua Rosenberg, 16, was shot in the arm while walking with friends in Deer Park, N.Y., early Sunday. Scott Fraley, 54, was accidentally shot in the head when a bullet ricocheted off a tree and hit him while ice fishing in West Gardiner, Me., Sunday. A man was wounded when someone opened fire on an apartment complex in east Columbus, Ohio, Sunday evening; a dog was also killed and a woman was injured by flying glass from a shot-out window. One person was killed and 10 people were wounded in shootings across Chicago this weekend.
I don't even...wow 3 days.

http://nocera.blogs.nytimes.com/201...1-february-2-2014/?_php=true&_type=blogs&_r=0
 
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Jaskalas

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I don't even...wow 3 days.

And every day you have been alive.

Imagine a world in which the shooter is caught on camera. Imagine a world where every would-be shooter KNOWS they'd be on camera with police hunting them down. That's a world with a much stronger deterrent than we have now. Maybe it'll work.
 

Nebor

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Those locations seemed a little slanted to me, as if the writer were trying to paint "gun friendly" states in a bad light.

Frankly I'm shocked that he missed this. Also, it looks like the local news does a weekend wrap up.
 

master_shake_

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And how many people died from tobacco related illnesses during those same three days?

you mean gradually by self inhalation or by second hand or by the tnt cigarette companies put in them to kill you instantly not unlike a gun?
 

Texashiker

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you mean gradually by self inhalation or by second hand or by the tnt cigarette companies put in them to kill you instantly not unlike a gun?

Lets see some perspective.

Yes that is a lot of people. But in the grand scheme of things how large is the number when compared to other causes of death or accidents?

There are around 32,000 chainsaw accidents every year. - http://www.popularmechanics.com/home/reviews/power-tools/4286772

I think your gun accidents a tiny compared to chainsaws.
 
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master_shake_

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ok take the amount of people in what i posted and multiply by 121

thats how many people guns could possibly kill and/or injure a year.

at least chainsaws have more than one use then.

cut down trees and kill people.

can guns cut down trees?
 

master_shake_

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You posted it, you count it.

Let us know if the number is anywhere close to 32,000.

not the one i posted im sorry

Using the most recent CDC estimates for yearly deaths by guns in the United States, it is likely that as of today, 2/5/2014, roughly 38,668 people have died from guns in the U.S. since the Newtown shootings. Compare that number to the number of deaths reported in the news in our interactive below, and you can see how undertold the story of gun violence in America actually is.
so more

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_..._death_since_newtown_sandy_hook_shooting.html

but what does the center for disease control know amirite.

i just read your chainsaw article...you knob thats injuries...not deaths and that counts stitches from wood bits...reaching orwut

Chain saws are a gimme on any dangerous-tool list. Even Hollywood knows they're the rabid pit bull of the tool world, as we see every few years with another horror-flick massacre of a handful of hapless teenagers. But how come the killer never experiences a fatal kickback? A study by the CPSC found that in 1999, there were over 28,500 reported chain-saw injuries in the U.S. By 2004, as the included chart shows, that number was up over 32,000.

A lot of these injuries occur when users fail to wear the correct protective gear. According to Anita Gambill at Stihl, one of the world's leading chain-saw manufacturers, "Chain-saw chaps cost about as much money as one stitch in the emergency room. Unfortunately, if you have an accident with a chain saw, you're never going to need just one stitch." The truth is actually worse than you think. According to the CPSC, the average chain-saw injury requires 110 stitches.
death>stitches.

at least the almost 39000 people i gave you died.
 
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irishScott

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not the one i posted im sorry

so more

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_..._death_since_newtown_sandy_hook_shooting.html

but what does the center for disease control know amirite.

i just read your chainsaw article...you knob thats injuries...not deaths and that counts stitches from wood bits...reaching orwut

death>stitches.

at least the almost 39000 people i gave you died.

Meanwhile, from the Violence Policy Center, a pro-gun-control lobbyist group:
http://www.vpc.org/press/1304self.htm

For victims of both attempted and completed violent crimes, for the five-year period 2007 through 2011 in only 0.8 percent of these instances did the intended victim in resistance to a criminal engage in a self-protective behavior that involved a firearm. For the five-year period 2007 through 2011, the National Crime Victimization Survey estimates that there were 29,618,300 victims of attempted or completed violent crimes. During this same five-year period, only 235,700 of the self-protective behaviors involved a firearm. Of this number, it is not known what type of firearm was used or whether it was fired or not. The number may also include off-duty law enforcement officers who use their firearms in self-defense.

So by the numbers endorsed by gun control lobbyists there are on average 47,140 uses of a gun in self defense per year. And I'd like to point out that's the lowest estimate available. Guns appear to be doing more good than harm.
 
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More people died from drug overdoses and if you're a celebrity, the authorities might actually try to find the people that sold those drugs.
 

master_shake_

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Meanwhile, from the Violence Policy Center, a pro-gun-control lobbyist group:
http://www.vpc.org/press/1304self.htm



So by the numbers endorsed by gun control lobbyists there are on average 47,140 uses of a gun in self defense per year. And I'd like to point out that's the lowest estimate available. Guns appear to be doing more good than harm.

from the same article

The study concludes, “The idea that firearms are frequently used in self-defense is the primary argument that the gun lobby and firearms industry use to expand the carrying of firearms into an ever-increasing number of public spaces and even to prevent the regulation of military-style semiautomatic assault weapons and high-capacity ammunition magazines. Yet this argument is hollow and the assertions false. When analyzing the most reliable data available, what is most striking is that in a nation of more than 300 million guns, how rarely firearms are used in self-defense.”

it concludes that they are rarely used in self defense.

what are you saying
 

Nebor

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im certain no civilian american can get a license for that.

nice tree fall though :p

Where do you think the one in the video came from dummy? Do you see any police or military around? There are plenty in civilian hands. Can you guess how many millions of people have been killed with them? Would you believe... zero?

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from the same article



it concludes that they are rarely used in self defense.

what are you saying

Physorg had something on this recently. States with liberal concealed carry laws are safer that more restrictive ones. Sorry.
 

irishScott

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from the same article



it concludes that they are rarely used in self defense.

what are you saying

No it concludes that there are 47,140 self defense uses per year, and that's excluding defense of property, in which case the number goes up by ~35%. Whether they characterize that number as "rarely" or not is irrelevant.

Number of self-defensive uses > number of deaths from firearms. You've loved numbers up to this point, have any to dispute this?
 
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tweaker2

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Absolutely

At a hundred meters, it took me all of twenty seconds and not even a quarter cannister of ammo to put down a tree a foot in diameter, blowing off excess 50 cal. rounds on a Ma Deuce that were destined to be handed off to ARVN troops due to their being declared expired (surplus from the Korean War or something). Also did it with an M16 at weapons quals where we also had an excess quota of rounds and didn't want the following quota reduced, so we volunteered and loaded up as many mags as we could carry and rock-n-rolled at anything that was standing down-range, including the furniture that was holding up the target boards. Every time a target board went down there was a loud whoop-tee-doo "fuck'in A man!" I was stitching the ground with rounds in front of the firing position and some other guys followed suit and that was a gleeful sight to see. Your tax $$$ hard at work there.

Of course, cleaning up brass after the fun session was a bitch, along with weapons cleaning afterward. And my rifle only jammed twice (hung rounds).

edit - Range Control got upset at first but we repaired what needed to and left the range spotless, so no biggie.
 
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Jesus...one day I'm convinced most people's problems here would just disappear if they just went outside once in awhile.
The next I'm convinced maybe it's just best for them to stay inside and use lots of hand sanitizer
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