Actually, I'm used to alert levels. Had plenty of them that I lived by while in the military. However, I do believe these current levels do have meaning.
Living outside of DC, I'd like to know if the World Bank or IMF are being targeted - or, anything else in my area for that matter.
Vic
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Simple. A higher level of competence from our government officials so that we can have less scaremongering and wolf-calling, the effect of which is creating apathy amongst the populace. You can only issue a terror alert with nothing happening so often before people stop paying attention to it, or even go so far as to start to mistrust the officials.
In other words, they neeed to issue terror alerts for when they really believe there is a danger, and not simply because there might be a danger and they want to CYA. If they wish to hold positions of authority, they need to act in the best interest of the nation and the people, and NOT in the best interest of their party and/or political affiliation or their careers.
Surely this is not hard to understand.
Fingolfin269
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Who are you to judge competence? Do you happen to know what information they are holding that causes them to make the decisions? Or are you simply playing a partisan hand (based on your sig)? I can't say that they are not using these terror alerts for political reasons, but by the same token no one in this forum has any more information about it than I do.
CADsortaGUY
Lifer
Judith Miller from the New York Times is on Hardball right now stating that the terror alert is based on "active" information that is recent in origin, and that Bush would have faced withering criticism if he hadn't called an alert, and an attack happened...
precisely the point of the "article" i listed above.
Bush is doing this job
Democrats are going to criticise him no matter what he does.
precisely the point of the "article" i listed above.
Bush is doing this job
Democrats are going to criticise him no matter what he does.
Of course its active information. Bush is just getting around to it after sitting on it for 4 years. Sounds like the plan for 9/11.
Just my opinion...
Reacting to info/intel is a no-brainer. That's something that should and must be done. Take whatever precations that are deemed necessary...ie there was something on the news yesterday about bridges and tunnels in NYC having security up the yin-yang. A driver was idling in line and said he'd traveled about 90 feet in 45 minutes. But that stuff is cool. If we feel it's needed, so be it.
The part I question is this color coded threat level thing. I don't think it's a very big leap to think that maybe it might've been considered a great idea right after 9/11 but that it's more of a psycological tool these days. I can't help but think of that recommendation to duct tape our homes. I know the righties poo-poo that thread citing the psycological/scare thing from a few days ago, but I'm thinking it's not an impossibility that this color thing may have evolved into just such a tool.
Reacting to info/intel is a no-brainer. That's something that should and must be done. Take whatever precations that are deemed necessary...ie there was something on the news yesterday about bridges and tunnels in NYC having security up the yin-yang. A driver was idling in line and said he'd traveled about 90 feet in 45 minutes. But that stuff is cool. If we feel it's needed, so be it.
The part I question is this color coded threat level thing. I don't think it's a very big leap to think that maybe it might've been considered a great idea right after 9/11 but that it's more of a psycological tool these days. I can't help but think of that recommendation to duct tape our homes. I know the righties poo-poo that thread citing the psycological/scare thing from a few days ago, but I'm thinking it's not an impossibility that this color thing may have evolved into just such a tool.
Hehe, Bush can only blame himself for all this critisim and questioning on this terror warning business. When you started a war on some false claim, your credibility suffers. When your credibility sucked, people is gonna question your decision.
Can't blame people checking if the Bush Admin is crying wolf when they did it with Iraq.
Can't blame people checking if the Bush Admin is crying wolf when they did it with Iraq.
XMan
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The New York Times updated yesterday's article today.
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/04/politics/04terror.html
Good to see them get the story right.
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/04/politics/04terror.html
Good to see them get the story right.
While I was watching one of the news stations a bit earlier (CNBC, MSNBC?) they disclosed that there were 3 separate streams of intel data that were received on Friday. All 3 seemed to indicate either areas or the financial targets that were listed. I guess we'll see more updates to this as the night goes along or even tomorrow.
I'm sure plenty of money is wasted. But, my friend, keep in mind that freedom is not free. There are costs associated with freedom.
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