NY Jets vs New England Patriots

[rise]

Originally posted by: BlinderBomber
edit: Post removed, I don't think arguing about the media's treatment of the Patriots and Belichick will do anything other than spark yet another stupid debate about the Patriots. I have my opinions on the issue, you have yours, let's let it be.

yep, i've learned just to ignore it.

mostly

 

[jman19]

Originally posted by: maddogchen
Over 50.5 is my pick!

The Pats themselves will score that much.

I don't see the Jets putting up more than 10 points myself

 

[Farang]

Originally posted by: PaulNEPats

Originally posted by: Farang
Pats lose this week. Mark my words.

OK, Marked!

Good, I've put my last $1000 on this game and if the Jets lose I lose my house.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: Farang

Originally posted by: PaulNEPats

Originally posted by: Farang
Pats lose this week. Mark my words.

OK, Marked!

Good, I've put my last $1000 on this game and if the Jets lose I lose my house.

good hope the jets lose. anyone dumb enough to bet with the last grand they have and risk loseing the house deserves it.

 

[BeauJangles]

Originally posted by: jman19

Originally posted by: BlinderBomber
edit: Post removed, I don't think arguing about the media's treatment of the Patriots and Belichick will do anything other than spark yet another stupid debate about the Patriots. I have my opinions on the issue, you have yours, let's let it be.

It's a matter of opinion that he acts smug about cheating

Why are you going to bring this up? All I said in my previous post was that he acts a lot differently around the Boston media and is generally more friendly. He's always been that way. I never said anything about cheating, but now we're talking about cheating again.

We have two choices in this thread. It can either degenerate into another Patriots*, cheater, blah blah thing or it can continue to be a reasonable discussion about a football game.

Let's just get the first option out of the way:

First, we're going to rehash what the Patriots did. You're going to say it was entirely out of line, that it was the worst thing to happen to football and that it calls into question all their previous wins. Then I'm going to say other teams have done this before, other teams have cheated before, individual players cheat on a regular basis and why aren't we dealing with that? You'll counter saying this is a team-wide thing and that it stems from the coaching. I'll say that individuals always make poor choices, but that I don't see how a coach's choice affects the players beneath him.

Second, you're going to say they're a classless team, that they run up the score and that all they care about is winning at any cost. I'll agree with the latter part, but try to tell you that it isn't running up the score, blah blah blah. You'll probably also mention something about how this scandal proves that Brady is no good and that it's the only way he's succeeded. I'll probably point out that there are plenty of other QBs in the league who are good who weren't highly drafted.

Third, you'll tell me that the team should get asterisks over all their wins because of this scandal. I'll tell you that it happened in week 1, that there is no proof that it happened before, and that expunging past victories would be impossible. Then I'll try and say that their success this season should be proof the other three weren't flukes. You'll tell me that Belichik wasn't a man because he didn't own up to what he did - I'll say that I might agree with you and that he certainly is an egotistical bastard, but a hell of a coach.

Finally, you'll think I'm a stupid blindly loyal Patriots fan and I'll think you're just a bitter fan who hates the Patriots because they've been so good. Ultimately, we'll have resolved nothing, we'll probably both be half-right and half-wrong, but neither one of us will admit that.

I'm glad we got that out of our system. Let's resume our normally schedule thread now, shall we?

 

[Phokus]

Ignore Jman19... he's a jealous Shittsburgh Squeeler fan (even though he denies it ) and he's pissed his team got pounded from behind on Sunday by the GREATEST. TEAM. EVAR

 

[jman19]

Originally posted by: Phokus
Ignore Jman19... he's a jealous Shittsburgh Squeeler fan (even though he denies it ) and he's pissed his team got pounded from behind on Sunday by the GREATEST. TEAM. EVAR

Not a Steelers fan Don't you have some other NFL thread to troll, btw?

I'm only saying what anybody who isn't a Patriots fan (at least all of the ones I've encountered) thinks...

Anyway I don't hate the Patriots. Do I wish my team was that good? Absolutely. Does it suck to see the Patriots stomp the league? Yeah it does. I respect how insanely dominant they have been this year, but Belichick acted like he did nothing wrong when he kept ignoring the leagues policy. Unlike blindbombers (blind.. that's appropriate ) assertion that I think it was the worst thing that happened, I think it was pretty minor. What is obnoxious is Belichick's reaction and the fact that he doesn't seem to care that his team was violating league rules.

Bomber, while you're at it, can you put some more words in my mouth?

Thanks.

 

[IAteYourMother]

Originally posted by: Phokus
Ignore Jman19... he's a jealous Shittsburgh Squeeler fan (even though he denies it ) and he's pissed his team got pounded from behind on Sunday by the GREATEST. TEAM. EVAR

I love the arrogance of NE fans to simply declare their team the greatest team ever in the face of so many other great teams who have actually played complete seasons.

 

[Phokus]

Originally posted by: jman19

Originally posted by: Phokus
Ignore Jman19... he's a jealous Shittsburgh Squeeler fan (even though he denies it ) and he's pissed his team got pounded from behind on Sunday by the GREATEST. TEAM. EVAR

Not a Steelers fan Don't you have some other NFL thread to troll, btw?

I'm only saying what anybody who isn't a Patriots fan (at least all of the ones I've encountered) thinks...

Anyway I don't hate the Patriots. Do I wish my team was that good? Absolutely. Does it suck to see the Patriots stomp the league? Yeah it does. I respect how insanely dominant they have been this year, but Belichick acted like he did nothing wrong when he kept ignoring the leagues policy. Unlike blindbombers (blind.. that's appropriate ) assertion that I think it was the worst thing that happened, I think it was pretty minor. What is obnoxious is Belichick's reaction and the fact that he doesn't seem to care that his team was violating league rules.

Bomber, while you're at it, can you put some more words in my mouth?

Thanks.

Hey don't worry, i'd be ashamed to admit that i was a squeeler fan too if i were in your shoes

 

[jman19]

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: jman19

Originally posted by: Phokus
Ignore Jman19... he's a jealous Shittsburgh Squeeler fan (even though he denies it ) and he's pissed his team got pounded from behind on Sunday by the GREATEST. TEAM. EVAR

Not a Steelers fan Don't you have some other NFL thread to troll, btw?

I'm only saying what anybody who isn't a Patriots fan (at least all of the ones I've encountered) thinks...

Anyway I don't hate the Patriots. Do I wish my team was that good? Absolutely. Does it suck to see the Patriots stomp the league? Yeah it does. I respect how insanely dominant they have been this year, but Belichick acted like he did nothing wrong when he kept ignoring the leagues policy. Unlike blindbombers (blind.. that's appropriate ) assertion that I think it was the worst thing that happened, I think it was pretty minor. What is obnoxious is Belichick's reaction and the fact that he doesn't seem to care that his team was violating league rules.

Bomber, while you're at it, can you put some more words in my mouth?

Thanks.

Hey don't worry, i'd be ashamed to admit that i was a squeeler fan too if i were in your shoes

Are you kidding, I'd rather be a Steelers fan given the trash I have to deal with year in and year out... but that's part of what being a fan is all about really

 

[Phokus]

Originally posted by: IAteYourMother

Originally posted by: Phokus
Ignore Jman19... he's a jealous Shittsburgh Squeeler fan (even though he denies it ) and he's pissed his team got pounded from behind on Sunday by the GREATEST. TEAM. EVAR

I love the arrogance of NE fans to simply declare their team the greatest team ever in the face of so many other great teams who have actually played complete seasons.

It's called tongue-in-cheek... notice the smiley faces, all caps, and hyperbole?

Patriots: GREAT team or GREATEST team? :laugh:

 

[jman19]

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: IAteYourMother

Originally posted by: Phokus
Ignore Jman19... he's a jealous Shittsburgh Squeeler fan (even though he denies it ) and he's pissed his team got pounded from behind on Sunday by the GREATEST. TEAM. EVAR

I love the arrogance of NE fans to simply declare their team the greatest team ever in the face of so many other great teams who have actually played complete seasons.

It's called tongue-in-cheek... notice the smiley faces, all caps, and hyperbole?

Patriots: GREAT team or GREATEST team? :laugh:

Yeah, I didn't even get bent out of shape over your comment and you were directing it to me

 

[Phokus]

Originally posted by: jman19

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: IAteYourMother

Originally posted by: Phokus
Ignore Jman19... he's a jealous Shittsburgh Squeeler fan (even though he denies it ) and he's pissed his team got pounded from behind on Sunday by the GREATEST. TEAM. EVAR

I love the arrogance of NE fans to simply declare their team the greatest team ever in the face of so many other great teams who have actually played complete seasons.

It's called tongue-in-cheek... notice the smiley faces, all caps, and hyperbole?

Patriots: GREAT team or GREATEST team? :laugh:

Yeah, I didn't even get bent out of shape over your comment and you were directing it to me

BTW, if you're not a Squeeler fan, which team do you root for?

 

[jman19]

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: jman19

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: IAteYourMother

Originally posted by: Phokus
Ignore Jman19... he's a jealous Shittsburgh Squeeler fan (even though he denies it ) and he's pissed his team got pounded from behind on Sunday by the GREATEST. TEAM. EVAR

I love the arrogance of NE fans to simply declare their team the greatest team ever in the face of so many other great teams who have actually played complete seasons.

It's called tongue-in-cheek... notice the smiley faces, all caps, and hyperbole?

Patriots: GREAT team or GREATEST team? :laugh:

Yeah, I didn't even get bent out of shape over your comment and you were directing it to me

BTW, if you're not a Squeeler fan, which team do you root for?

If I tell you, I'll have to change my avatar to the guy with the paper bag over his head

 

[Phokus]

Originally posted by: jman19

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: jman19

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: IAteYourMother

Originally posted by: Phokus
Ignore Jman19... he's a jealous Shittsburgh Squeeler fan (even though he denies it ) and he's pissed his team got pounded from behind on Sunday by the GREATEST. TEAM. EVAR

I love the arrogance of NE fans to simply declare their team the greatest team ever in the face of so many other great teams who have actually played complete seasons.

It's called tongue-in-cheek... notice the smiley faces, all caps, and hyperbole?

Patriots: GREAT team or GREATEST team? :laugh:

Yeah, I didn't even get bent out of shape over your comment and you were directing it to me

BTW, if you're not a Squeeler fan, which team do you root for?

If I tell you, I'll have to change my avatar to the guy with the paper bag over his head

Dolphins or Jets?

 

[jman19]

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: jman19

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: jman19

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: IAteYourMother

Originally posted by: Phokus
Ignore Jman19... he's a jealous Shittsburgh Squeeler fan (even though he denies it ) and he's pissed his team got pounded from behind on Sunday by the GREATEST. TEAM. EVAR

I love the arrogance of NE fans to simply declare their team the greatest team ever in the face of so many other great teams who have actually played complete seasons.

It's called tongue-in-cheek... notice the smiley faces, all caps, and hyperbole?

Patriots: GREAT team or GREATEST team? :laugh:

Yeah, I didn't even get bent out of shape over your comment and you were directing it to me

BTW, if you're not a Squeeler fan, which team do you root for?

If I tell you, I'll have to change my avatar to the guy with the paper bag over his head

Dolphins or Jets?

Well the team I root for isn't winless, so...

 

[Phokus]

Originally posted by: jman19

Well the team I root for isn't winless, so...

Ahhhhh jests it is then

 

[jman19]

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: jman19

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: jman19

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: jman19

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: IAteYourMother

Originally posted by: Phokus
Ignore Jman19... he's a jealous Shittsburgh Squeeler fan (even though he denies it ) and he's pissed his team got pounded from behind on Sunday by the GREATEST. TEAM. EVAR

I love the arrogance of NE fans to simply declare their team the greatest team ever in the face of so many other great teams who have actually played complete seasons.

It's called tongue-in-cheek... notice the smiley faces, all caps, and hyperbole?

Patriots: GREAT team or GREATEST team? :laugh:

Yeah, I didn't even get bent out of shape over your comment and you were directing it to me

BTW, if you're not a Squeeler fan, which team do you root for?

If I tell you, I'll have to change my avatar to the guy with the paper bag over his head

Dolphins or Jets?

Well the team I root for isn't winless, so...

Ahhhhh jests it is then

One of my good friends I talk trash with about football is a Dolphins fan, so even with the Jets this miserable he still can't say anything...

 

[Phokus]

Originally posted by: jman19




One of my good friends I talk trash with about football is a Dolphins fan, so even with the Jets this miserable he still can't say anything...

hahaha, i'm trying to picture a jets fan talking trash to a dolphins fan this season... that's just really funny.... "YEAH, WELL YOUR TEAM SUCKS MUCH WORSE THAN MY SUCKY TEAM!"

 

[jman19]

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: jman19

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: jman19

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: jman19

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: jman19

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: IAteYourMother

Originally posted by: Phokus
Ignore Jman19... he's a jealous Shittsburgh Squeeler fan (even though he denies it ) and he's pissed his team got pounded from behind on Sunday by the GREATEST. TEAM. EVAR

I love the arrogance of NE fans to simply declare their team the greatest team ever in the face of so many other great teams who have actually played complete seasons.

It's called tongue-in-cheek... notice the smiley faces, all caps, and hyperbole?

Patriots: GREAT team or GREATEST team? :laugh:

Yeah, I didn't even get bent out of shape over your comment and you were directing it to me

BTW, if you're not a Squeeler fan, which team do you root for?

If I tell you, I'll have to change my avatar to the guy with the paper bag over his head

Dolphins or Jets?

Well the team I root for isn't winless, so...

Ahhhhh jests it is then

One of my good friends I talk trash with about football is a Dolphins fan, so even with the Jets this miserable he still can't say anything...

hahaha, i'm trying to picture a jets fan talking trash to a dolphins fan this season... that's just really funny.... "YEAH, WELL YOUR TEAM SUCKS MUCH WORSE THAN MY SUCKY TEAM!"

Well the trash talk used to be more fierce when both teams were actually competing for the division (long ago, when I was in HS mostly)... these days it's more like "Yeah we both suck" though I did get a little bit of trash in a few weeks ago

 

[rise]

jman, how long will mangini last?

 

[jman19]

Originally posted by: rise
jman, how long will mangini last?

Well the ownership of the team sucks so no one knows really, but he might get another shot next year... it's hard to say. He overachieved with the team last year vs. a weak schedule but has made some bad moves this year. I never agreed with him moving more towards the 3-4 given the roster on the team. I never like it when a coach molds a team to his style when he doesn't have the pieces or ability to acquire the pieces to make that style work.

 

[BeauJangles]

jman - it was a joke. Sorry if I pissed you off, I was just trying to make light of what I perceived to be another Patriots argument. My bad.

 

[jman19]

Originally posted by: BlinderBomber
jman - it was a joke. Sorry if I pissed you off, I was just trying to make light of what I perceived to be another Patriots argument. My bad.

I probably shouldn't have brought up anything after your edit anyway. Everything is cool

 

[rise]

Originally posted by: jman19

Originally posted by: rise
jman, how long will mangini last?

Well the ownership of the team sucks so no one knows really, but he might get another shot next year... it's hard to say. He overachieved with the team last year vs. a weak schedule but has made some bad moves this year. I never agreed with him moving more towards the 3-4 given the roster on the team. I never like it when a coach molds a team to his style when he doesn't have the pieces or ability to acquire the pieces to make that style work.

heh, pretty much what i think though i think he'll almost certainly get one more shot next year. but i also think that'll be his last year.