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[Argo]

Originally posted by: Carbo
Gee, all the ginats need now are four offensive linemen, a legitimate deep threat at wide receiver, a tight end with a smaller mouth and bigger hands, (yeah, I'm already tired of the overrated Shockey), and a head coach who isn't from the Jurassic Park era of football. Tom Coughlin? Puleeze!

Giants have 2 deep threat WR in Carter and Taylor. They just need to stay healthy.

 

[Argo]

More Giants news: Giants just signed Jets RT Kareem McKenzie

This is becoming a truly awesome off season for us

 

[Phokus]

Originally posted by: Argo
More Giants news: Giants just signed Jets RT Kareem McKenzie

This is becoming a truly awesome off season for us

(except for the fact that eli manning will probably suck again this coming season).

 

[Argo]

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: Argo
More Giants news: Giants just signed Jets RT Kareem McKenzie

This is becoming a truly awesome off season for us

(except for the fact that eli manning will probably suck again this coming season).

Don't know what games you were watching, but Eli was pretty damn good towards the end of the season. Don't want to open the old can-o-warms but in head to head match up he played much better than Big Ben.

 

[Carbo]

Originally posted by: Argo

Originally posted by: Carbo
Gee, all the ginats need now are four offensive linemen, a legitimate deep threat at wide receiver, a tight end with a smaller mouth and bigger hands, (yeah, I'm already tired of the overrated Shockey), and a head coach who isn't from the Jurassic Park era of football. Tom Coughlin? Puleeze!

Giants have 2 deep threat WR in Carter and Taylor. They just need to stay healthy.

I say this as a Giants fan: opposing defensive backs do not lose sleep on Saturday nights worrying about the Giants "deep threats". The last legitimate deep threat this organization had was Homer Jones, (look it up, young'un).

 

[Argo]

Originally posted by: Carbo

Originally posted by: Argo

Originally posted by: Carbo
Gee, all the ginats need now are four offensive linemen, a legitimate deep threat at wide receiver, a tight end with a smaller mouth and bigger hands, (yeah, I'm already tired of the overrated Shockey), and a head coach who isn't from the Jurassic Park era of football. Tom Coughlin? Puleeze!

Giants have 2 deep threat WR in Carter and Taylor. They just need to stay healthy.

I say this as a Giants fan: opposing defensive backs do not lose sleep on Saturday nights worrying about the Giants "deep threats". The last legitimate deep threat this organization had was Homer Jones, (look it up, young'un).

Opposing teams didn't lose sleep planning for Pats or Bucs wide outs, yet they've won the last 4 superbowls. I think you have much better chances of success with good o-line and average wide outs, than the other way around.

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: Carbo

Originally posted by: Argo

Originally posted by: Carbo
Gee, all the ginats need now are four offensive linemen, a legitimate deep threat at wide receiver, a tight end with a smaller mouth and bigger hands, (yeah, I'm already tired of the overrated Shockey), and a head coach who isn't from the Jurassic Park era of football. Tom Coughlin? Puleeze!

Giants have 2 deep threat WR in Carter and Taylor. They just need to stay healthy.

I say this as a Giants fan: opposing defensive backs do not lose sleep on Saturday nights worrying about the Giants "deep threats". The last legitimate deep threat this organization had was Homer Jones, (look it up, young'un).

Last season Taylor has some outstanding downfield catches. Carter has been injured most of his career. The Giants also released Ike Hilliard yesterday, so they are probably hunting for WR's now.

 

[kalster]

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: bradruth

Originally posted by: Stojakapimp
Most awkward title ever. First he spells Giants wrong, then I think he's talking about the baseball team since he says MLB. I motion for ban

:thumbsup:

 

[Argo]

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: Carbo

Originally posted by: Argo

Originally posted by: Carbo
Gee, all the ginats need now are four offensive linemen, a legitimate deep threat at wide receiver, a tight end with a smaller mouth and bigger hands, (yeah, I'm already tired of the overrated Shockey), and a head coach who isn't from the Jurassic Park era of football. Tom Coughlin? Puleeze!

Giants have 2 deep threat WR in Carter and Taylor. They just need to stay healthy.

I say this as a Giants fan: opposing defensive backs do not lose sleep on Saturday nights worrying about the Giants "deep threats". The last legitimate deep threat this organization had was Homer Jones, (look it up, young'un).

Last season Taylor has some outstanding downfield catches. Carter has been injured most of his career. The Giants also released Ike Hilliard yesterday, so they are probably hunting for WR's now.

I wouldn't be shocked if Tyree got Hilliards job next year, with Carter/Taylor being the deep threat.

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: Argo

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: Carbo

Originally posted by: Argo

Originally posted by: Carbo
Gee, all the ginats need now are four offensive linemen, a legitimate deep threat at wide receiver, a tight end with a smaller mouth and bigger hands, (yeah, I'm already tired of the overrated Shockey), and a head coach who isn't from the Jurassic Park era of football. Tom Coughlin? Puleeze!

Giants have 2 deep threat WR in Carter and Taylor. They just need to stay healthy.

I say this as a Giants fan: opposing defensive backs do not lose sleep on Saturday nights worrying about the Giants "deep threats". The last legitimate deep threat this organization had was Homer Jones, (look it up, young'un).

Last season Taylor has some outstanding downfield catches. Carter has been injured most of his career. The Giants also released Ike Hilliard yesterday, so they are probably hunting for WR's now.

I wouldn't be shocked if Tyree got Hilliards job next year, with Carter/Taylor being the deep threat.

It would not shock me either, but he's been so great in special teams I wonder if they would move him.

 

[RedPickle]

Originally posted by: Xafgoat
they gave him a buttload of money though. Ny teams always overpay.

Actually, they did not overpay for him. He is 26, has experience, is proven, had 160 (!) tackles last year (108 solo), and is a perfect fit into our organization. GREAT signing.

Mackenzie - one of the top OT in this year's free agent pool. Might have been overpaid, but I think the position's value has skyrocketed to a point where his salary may just be a sign of things to come. Big and strong, four years of experience, local kid. Good stuff.

Giants addressed the two BIGGEST needs on this team. Now we need a deeper secondary, some WRs, and a decent backup to Tiki. Things are looking good for Eli

 

[MiniDoom]

Originally posted by: RedPickle

Originally posted by: Xafgoat
they gave him a buttload of money though. Ny teams always overpay.

Actually, they did not overpay for him. He is 26, has experience, is proven, had 160 (!) tackles last year (108 solo), and is a perfect fit into our organization. GREAT signing.

Mackenzie - one of the top OT in this year's free agent pool. Might have been overpaid, but I think the position's value has skyrocketed to a point where his salary may just be a sign of things to come. Big and strong, four years of experience, local kid. Good stuff.

Giants addressed the two BIGGEST needs on this team. Now we need a deeper secondary, some WRs, and a decent backup to Tiki. Things are looking good for Eli

What? 6 years 26 million (I think) is allot and playing for the #2 defense in the NFL last year helped those stats some. Good for the Giants though they can?t really get any worse.

 

[abc]

Originally posted by: Carbo

Originally posted by: Argo

Originally posted by: Carbo
Gee, all the ginats need now are four offensive linemen, a legitimate deep threat at wide receiver, a tight end with a smaller mouth and bigger hands, (yeah, I'm already tired of the overrated Shockey), and a head coach who isn't from the Jurassic Park era of football. Tom Coughlin? Puleeze!

Giants have 2 deep threat WR in Carter and Taylor. They just need to stay healthy.

I say this as a Giants fan: opposing defensive backs do not lose sleep on Saturday nights worrying about the Giants "deep threats". The last legitimate deep threat this organization had was Homer Jones, (look it up, young'un).

dont you remember the season or two that happened with Toomer and Collins, where Toomer had a great year, then the next one teams where doubling up on Toomer... and the buzz was how the Giants needed another threat... boom ... Shockey as a rookie...
then in Fassels last year, with Shockey injured and Collins being erratic, everything fell apart.

I'll miss Ike Hillard... I always liked how he caught the ball, and made the first guy miss. He had the agility to always do that, and flash his arm for a first down since he caught a lot of 3rd down balls. I remember when they drafted him, he was known not to be a breakaway reciever but a possession reciever AND had the ability to adjust for the catch... why was this noted? Because the Giants QB was DAVE Brown... (barf)

But an injury at the beginning of his career, and with the foot about 2 yrs ago, kept him from shining initially, and then slowed him down further. I think his vertical speed off the line was very poor this season particularly. And with Toomer dropping balls with Shockey, and Toomer also playing injured, there was no bright spot on the recieving corps.

 

[Argo]

Rumour has it Giants are close to signing Buress. If that is the case, the is so out of character for the Giants, signing 3 top FA at 3 positions of need. Let's see how this all works out.

 

[abc]

great then... waking up just like the METS.

well, it shows they got some brains in the mgmt... they're not going to benefit from the draft since their #1 is gone due to Manning...

so gotta open up the wallet instead of building from the draft.

 

[Carbo]

Originally posted by: Argo
Rumour has it Giants are close to signing Buress. If that is the case, the is so out of character for the Giants, signing 3 top FA at 3 positions of need. Let's see how this all works out.

Plexiglass Buress ain't no thing.

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: Carbo

Originally posted by: Argo
Rumour has it Giants are close to signing Buress. If that is the case, the is so out of character for the Giants, signing 3 top FA at 3 positions of need. Let's see how this all works out.

Plexiglass Buress ain't no thing.

He's been an underacheiver so far. There is no doubt that he's a physically gifted player. He can be a a big-time playmaker in the right situation.

 

[Argo]

Reported offer the Giants made is $25 million over 6 years with $4 million signing bonus. If that offer holds - that'd be the steal of free agency, I don't care how underachieving he is.

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: Argo
Reported offer the Giants made is $25 million over 6 years with $4 million signing bonus. If that offer holds - that'd be the steal of free agency, I don't care how underachieving he is.

Maybe, but you also have to factor in that no other team is showing any interest now. From what I've read the Vikings were the only other interested party and they are no longer interested. Coughlin and Burress sound like a match made in the dark corners of hell. Burress has an attitude problem and carries some heavy baggage. If Coughlin can deal with him or whip him into shape, then it can be a great situation. But it worries me.

 

[Argo]

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: Argo
Reported offer the Giants made is $25 million over 6 years with $4 million signing bonus. If that offer holds - that'd be the steal of free agency, I don't care how underachieving he is.

Maybe, but you also have to factor in that no other team is showing any interest now. From what I've read the Vikings were the only other interested party and they are no longer interested. Coughlin and Burress sound like a match made in the dark corners of hell. Burress has an attitude problem and carries some heavy baggage. If Coughlin can deal with him or whip him into shape, then it can be a great situation. But it worries me.

Doesn't matter. $4 million signing bonus means he can be cut or traded any moment. But yeah, I see what you're saying. I wasn't a big fan of him either, but at that price you'll have to be crazy to miss this.

 

[Carbo]

The Presence is right. Plexiglass is a bad fit with the Giants and with Coach Coughlin. Personally, I think the downside outweighs the potential. As a fan, I couldn't care about the contract or the money. My concern is what does a player bring to the team. In his case, not enough. I sure hope the Giants pass on this. Surely they can do some homework and find a sleeper wideout in the draft. I mean, isn't that what scouts are paid to do?

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: Carbo
The Presence is right. Plexiglass is a bad fit with the Giants and with Coach Coughlin. Personally, I think the downside outweighs the potential. As a fan, I couldn't care about the contract or the money. My concern is what does a player bring to the team. In his case, not enough. I sure hope the Giants pass on this. Surely they can do some homework and find a sleeper wideout in the draft. I mean, isn't that what scouts are paid to do?

On the other hand, the Giants and Coughlin obviously realize this problem. If they go ahead and sign him anyway, then they either figure they can work with him, or he'll agree to conform. Either way, I'm gonna root like hell for him if they sign him.

 

[cloude27]

Originally posted by: Argo

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: Argo
Reported offer the Giants made is $25 million over 6 years with $4 million signing bonus. If that offer holds - that'd be the steal of free agency, I don't care how underachieving he is.

Maybe, but you also have to factor in that no other team is showing any interest now. From what I've read the Vikings were the only other interested party and they are no longer interested. Coughlin and Burress sound like a match made in the dark corners of hell. Burress has an attitude problem and carries some heavy baggage. If Coughlin can deal with him or whip him into shape, then it can be a great situation. But it worries me.

Doesn't matter. $4 million signing bonus means he can be cut or traded any moment. But yeah, I see what you're saying. I wasn't a big fan of him either, but at that price you'll have to be crazy to miss this.

I can see there being some trouble between plex and Coach Coughlin, but if we can pick him in the 4 - 6 million dollar signing bonus range I thing you have to give it a shot. If he lives up to potential we got a steal if not we can cut him with out a huge cap hit.

Now if we can get a Tim Carter and Jamar Taylor healty eli could have some nice weapons.

 

[abc]

espn is pounding now that this receiver is not a franchise player and should not be paid franchise money by the Giants. This guy was supposed to meet with the Giants today, but didn't even call his agent, didnt call the Giants that he won't make it , until the last minute... because he has the flu.

The Steelers, they said, don't even want him back, they already signed Wilson from the 49ers... and not many teams as he and his agent are leading people to believe, are really interested in him.

The Giants need a need for receiver, but if this is a sign of things to come, they are mistaken to lock up so much cap $ for this guy.

I think espn is right.

 

[ThePresence]

Just so y'all know, the Giants DID sign Burress.
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Good player, great price. The Giants showed that they know how to do business.