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I am planning on a a new build in the very near future using a X570 MB (probably MSI as I appreciate the "no need for already supported CPU" button for the BIOS update, but I have no loyalty towards any brand as I have been building machines since ~1995 and have use just about all of the (I know I never used DFI as the upgrade bug and their price amhit a sweet spot for me, other than that, pretty much all) and the last 2 ASRock, and in all of those years they all ran good. I feel that a Gen3 X4 would be more than sufficient, especially the price premium and my current uses but this is going to be atleast a 5+ year buld, but I have only used upto SATAIII until what will be this new build, so I come seeking knowledge/advice. FWIW, current rig is a i5-2500K, 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 RAM (do not currently know speed or timings), SATAIII 180GB main drive, 2TD RAID1 ARRAY, Antec ~430W 80+ White PSU on a Z68 based ASRock M/B, using the internal i5-2500K GPU. I am starting to rip my BkluRay/4K movies (for the time being no compression, that may change depending the $ per GB on the Spinners.
My main question is there a NVMe SSD (either generation) that would be on a "do not buy" list, regardless of price?
FWIW, up until this point between the laptops and desktops that I currently, have, I have a majority Samsung EVO 860 & EVO 870 SATA III drives with one Intel 180GB drive that I currently do not know which drive it is. With that in mind, I honestly cannot tell the difference between the drives speed, it takes longer to go through the BIOS startup compared to the actual WIN10Pro startup, but I honestly do not care how long the startup is because one started, the machines will be on for days anyway and at this point my Cu LAN is the bottleneck maxing out @ 100M/B between machines (but as soon as 10GbE switches become reasonable in price I will be moving up).
Also, sometimes I will move up to ~100GB of data on the same drive. If this portion could be sped up, that would be greatly appreciated.
I have not decided between a Ryzen 5 3400g and a Ryzen 5 3600 (if I go the 3600, my GPU would be a RX580/8GB (not planning a CrossFire setup) card that I used (one of a few) to mine with, but with the amount of heat they put off and the time I chose to mine were not a good fit (PHX, AZ), small condo).
Price is obviously an issue but this is also my HTPC, so it will be on basically 24/7 w/ the exceptions of updates, and plan for at minimum yr useage. If it matters, I run a HDMI cable to my Denon receiver, then to the display, currently a 50" LCD.
Also, this main drive only needs to be @ max (I am thinking, I have not game in a few years, so clue me in, FWIW, if I did game, it is only 1 at a time, so thinking ~500GB as I will have atleast 4TB RAID1 on the machine that the main drive, along with the laptops get backed up to using Macrium a few times a week (possible 8TB+ RAID as the sales continue to show up and may possibly get better), and I will have at least 1 3.x external drive as I know RAID is not a backup.
Machine is also on a UPS 24/7.
OS will be be WIN10 PRO w/ 16 or 32GB of RAM. I have 2 sets of RAM, I thought I purchased what I could have sworn were the same 2 16GB kits on a rather good sale but the timings after looking at them as the build comes closer tells otherwise - both Adata XPG DDR4 - set 1 - 3000MHZ, 16, 18,18/ set 2 - 3000MHZ 16, 20, 20.
Not sure how much of an issue this will cause, since they are both 1.35V, I figure running both pairs @ 1.35V, 3000MHZ, 16, 20, 20 or if a better set cones up, grab that, and from what I understand the Zen2 chips do better with the fastest RAM (both speed & timings) possible, but I really don't know if 32GB would be extreme overkill, unless I end up gaming as do not know what current games need RAM wise as the last game I played was Battlefield 4, and FWIW, the genre of games I would go back to would be FPS, or possibly a simulator.
I do not plan on any gaming on the machine but that may change (doubtful but I figure the more info you have, the better suggestion you can make and at that time I would request the hives knowledge, and by that time I would probably be runningg a 4K display).
I will be using a Seasonic 550-750W 80+ Gold rated PSU (either straight Seasonic or Antec branded Seasonic, if that matters) along w/ 2x 120mm & 2x 140 fans - no liquid cooling.
I appreciate your time reading the and any suggestion you make.
Bob
Posted this from my phone, so if I missed an error, that is why.
Bob
My main question is there a NVMe SSD (either generation) that would be on a "do not buy" list, regardless of price?
FWIW, up until this point between the laptops and desktops that I currently, have, I have a majority Samsung EVO 860 & EVO 870 SATA III drives with one Intel 180GB drive that I currently do not know which drive it is. With that in mind, I honestly cannot tell the difference between the drives speed, it takes longer to go through the BIOS startup compared to the actual WIN10Pro startup, but I honestly do not care how long the startup is because one started, the machines will be on for days anyway and at this point my Cu LAN is the bottleneck maxing out @ 100M/B between machines (but as soon as 10GbE switches become reasonable in price I will be moving up).
Also, sometimes I will move up to ~100GB of data on the same drive. If this portion could be sped up, that would be greatly appreciated.
I have not decided between a Ryzen 5 3400g and a Ryzen 5 3600 (if I go the 3600, my GPU would be a RX580/8GB (not planning a CrossFire setup) card that I used (one of a few) to mine with, but with the amount of heat they put off and the time I chose to mine were not a good fit (PHX, AZ), small condo).
Price is obviously an issue but this is also my HTPC, so it will be on basically 24/7 w/ the exceptions of updates, and plan for at minimum yr useage. If it matters, I run a HDMI cable to my Denon receiver, then to the display, currently a 50" LCD.
Also, this main drive only needs to be @ max (I am thinking, I have not game in a few years, so clue me in, FWIW, if I did game, it is only 1 at a time, so thinking ~500GB as I will have atleast 4TB RAID1 on the machine that the main drive, along with the laptops get backed up to using Macrium a few times a week (possible 8TB+ RAID as the sales continue to show up and may possibly get better), and I will have at least 1 3.x external drive as I know RAID is not a backup.
Machine is also on a UPS 24/7.
OS will be be WIN10 PRO w/ 16 or 32GB of RAM. I have 2 sets of RAM, I thought I purchased what I could have sworn were the same 2 16GB kits on a rather good sale but the timings after looking at them as the build comes closer tells otherwise - both Adata XPG DDR4 - set 1 - 3000MHZ, 16, 18,18/ set 2 - 3000MHZ 16, 20, 20.
Not sure how much of an issue this will cause, since they are both 1.35V, I figure running both pairs @ 1.35V, 3000MHZ, 16, 20, 20 or if a better set cones up, grab that, and from what I understand the Zen2 chips do better with the fastest RAM (both speed & timings) possible, but I really don't know if 32GB would be extreme overkill, unless I end up gaming as do not know what current games need RAM wise as the last game I played was Battlefield 4, and FWIW, the genre of games I would go back to would be FPS, or possibly a simulator.
I do not plan on any gaming on the machine but that may change (doubtful but I figure the more info you have, the better suggestion you can make and at that time I would request the hives knowledge, and by that time I would probably be runningg a 4K display).
I will be using a Seasonic 550-750W 80+ Gold rated PSU (either straight Seasonic or Antec branded Seasonic, if that matters) along w/ 2x 120mm & 2x 140 fans - no liquid cooling.
I appreciate your time reading the and any suggestion you make.
Bob
Posted this from my phone, so if I missed an error, that is why.
Bob
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