nView not working - help (formerly Q re muiltimon)

[MercenaryForHire]

Update 2: Grr. Nothing seems to be working right.

Next reboot, I'm dropping in an 8MB SiS card and a 4MB Matrox MGA and powering the extra monitors off those. And screw the nView. I'll let Ultramon sort it out.

Update: nView doesn't seem to be working. I can enable Horizontal Span, but I want to use a different resolution for the right-hand monitor since it's smaller. Any ideas? Using the 41.09s from nVidia for drivers.

Here's what I've got right now -

AGP gF4 Ti4200 - connected to the middle and right monitors on my desk

What I'd like to do is add a simple SiS 8MB PCI card and run the left one (stuff like Trillian, WinAmp, 2D apps)

Possible? From what I've heard, XP behaves quite well with multiple vidcards.

Edit - If possible, info on what kind of HW accelleration would be affected would be nice. All I really care about is keeping D3D/OGL on my center viewport, and possibly DShow (video accel) on one of the other sides.

Edit2 - I've already got UltraMon to handle some of the more fun aspects of multimonitor, so make your recommendations/assumptions based on having that installed and running.

- M4H

 

[Confused]

I've run a Matrox Mystique and a Voodoo 3 in the same PC running Windows XP Pro, just a few weeks ago actually, so that I could still have dual monitor while my K7S5A was throwing a fit due to a dying PSU and wouldn't accept my AGP Ti4200.

You shouldn't have any problem with adding another card in there, Windows XP, will be fine

Of course you won't be able to have any overlay or 3d support on that little SiS card, but for just plain-jane 2d stuff you should be fine


Glad to hear you've got Ultramon already, if not, then that would have been the first thing I'd have told you to get!


Confused

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: Confused
I've run a Matrox Mystique and a Voodoo 3 in the same PC running Windows XP Pro, just a few weeks ago actually, so that I could still have dual monitor while my K7S5A was throwing a fit due to a dying PSU and wouldn't accept my AGP Ti4200.

You shouldn't have any problem with adding another card in there, Windows XP, will be fine

Sweet. Nothing other to do that pop the new card in and get drivers, right?

Of course you won't be able to have any overlay or 3d support on that little SiS card, but for just plain-jane 2d stuff you should be fine

According to the specs, it can do DVD playback & overlay ... and if it's software limitations, well ... /me h4x0rs WinXP ... what limitations?

Glad to hear you've got Ultramon already, if not, then that would have been the first thing I'd have told you to get!

I saw it in so many multimon threads that I figured "WTF, why not."

Oh, btw - the second link in your sig's busted.

Thanks!

- M4H

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Update: nView doesn't seem to be working. I can enable Horizontal Span, but I want to use a different resolution for the right-hand monitor since it's smaller. Any ideas? Using the 41.09s from nVidia for drivers.

- M4H

 

[Confused]

I've fixed the link now, thanks

I have never used nView, i hate it. I have a 19" and a 17" monitor, and I use 1280x1024 and 1152x864 respectively, and you can't do that with nView.

Try disabling nView all together, and just booting up with all the monitors and cards installed and turned on. Then, you should *hopefully* get 3 little pictures of the monitors show up under the Settings tab of Display Properties. From here, click on one of the greyed out monitors, and there should be a little box either there, or under Advanced (can't remember right now, as I have my 2nd display hooked up to my server) which will say "Extend my desktop onto this device", and you can select the resolution for each seperately.


Yeah, I just had to pop the cards in, and Windows XP actually picked up all the drivers for my Matrox and Voodoo 3 I believe it might be a Windows thing of only allowing Overlay on the Primary monitor, however the nVidia drivers do override this to allow overlay on their second monitor, but not sure about a 3rd party card. That will be something you may have to investigate, and prove me wrong on


Confused

 

[SUOrangeman]

Here is my very, very, secret "Hidden Features.reg"

REGEDIT4

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\NVIDIA Corporation\Global\NVTweak]
"Coolbits" = dword:FFFFFFFF
"NvCplEnableHardwarePage" = dword:00000001
"NvCplEnableAGPSettingsPage" = dword:00000001
"NvCplExposeWin2kDualView"=dword:00000001
"NvCplEnableAdditionalInfoPage"=dword:00000001
"NvCplEnableClearViewPage"=dword:00000001

The key value here is NvCplExposeWin2kDualView. It adds an "Enable DualView" checkbox on the Desktop Utilities property page of the drivers. Checking this box forces nView to not treat your GF4 card as one unified display. Once enabled, you can then server different resolutions to the displays connected to your GF4 card.

Even with this registry tweak, my GF2MX card has some trouble getting all of this to work. I usually have to enable the large unified display, hack the registry (as above), reboot, and then I can use DualView. I just looked at one system I recently built with a Ti4200-8x card and one display. The checkbox was already there and enabled. So, once I add a second display, I'll be able to treat the screens individually.

-SUO

 

[glugglug]

Originally posted by: SUOrangeman
Here is my very, very, secret "Hidden Features.reg"

REGEDIT4

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\NVIDIA Corporation\Global\NVTweak]
"Coolbits" = dword:FFFFFFFF
"NvCplEnableHardwarePage" = dword:00000001
"NvCplEnableAGPSettingsPage" = dword:00000001
"NvCplExposeWin2kDualView"=dword:00000001
"NvCplEnableAdditionalInfoPage"=dword:00000001
"NvCplEnableClearViewPage"=dword:00000001

This got me curious so I ran regmon while going through the control panel and found a bunch more to add:
(all under NVTweak, there are other settings in other paths under the NVIDIA Corp key which by default are not in the registry as well):
Left out all the ones with "Disable" in the title -- why would you want to disable the options you have by default...

NvCplAllowForceTVDetection
NvCplTvFormatSelections
NvCplForceMonitorReEnum
NvCplForcedPrimaryDevice
NvCplEnablePwrMzrOnDesktopMenu
NvCplForceShowTvVideoOutputFormats
NvCplAllowAllModesForPanning
Coolbits
NvCplAllowedTvFormats
NvCplInitialDeviceResolution
NvCplEnableOverlaySpanControl
NvCplIgnoreOSRotationLimitation

You may also want to add this to your file:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\NVIDIA Corporation\Global\nView\ControlPanel]
"ShowProfiles"=dword:00000001
"ShowWindows"=dword:00000001
"ShowApps"=dword:00000001
"ShowDesktops"=dword:00000001
"ShowUI"=dword:00000001
"ShowEffects"=dword:00000001
"ShowZoom"=dword:00000001
"ShowHotkeys"=dword:00000001
"ShowTools"=dword:00000001



The effect of the "NvCplIgnoreOSRotationLimitation" flag is interesting. I tried to rotate the screen at 2048x1536, which usually it just won't let you do at all, popping up a dialog saying "The rotation cannot be applied at the current resolution", but with that flag set to 1, it rotates it, then pops up the error dialog (still rotated), switching back when you hit OK to the error.

 

[w0lf42]

Yes, you can run independent resolutions.

I have a Ti4200 and am able to independent resolutions on both my win2k and winXP systems.
Version: 40.72
Release Date: November 8, 2002
WHQL Certified

Check out my previous thread that addresses this (Thread). Let me know if you need better instrcutions on how to do this.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: SUOrangeman
Here is my very, very, secret "Hidden Features.reg"

REGEDIT4

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\NVIDIA Corporation\Global\NVTweak]
"Coolbits" = dword:FFFFFFFF
"NvCplEnableHardwarePage" = dword:00000001
"NvCplEnableAGPSettingsPage" = dword:00000001
"NvCplExposeWin2kDualView"=dword:00000001
"NvCplEnableAdditionalInfoPage"=dword:00000001
"NvCplEnableClearViewPage"=dword:00000001

The key value here is NvCplExposeWin2kDualView. It adds an "Enable DualView" checkbox on the Desktop Utilities property page of the drivers. Checking this box forces nView to not treat your GF4 card as one unified display. Once enabled, you can then server different resolutions to the displays connected to your GF4 card.

Even with this registry tweak, my GF2MX card has some trouble getting all of this to work. I usually have to enable the large unified display, hack the registry (as above), reboot, and then I can use DualView. I just looked at one system I recently built with a Ti4200-8x card and one display. The checkbox was already there and enabled. So, once I add a second display, I'll be able to treat the screens individually.

-SUO

Nice! An application of reg settings, a half-dozen reboots, and I've now got my double-monitor setup alive and healthy.

Thanks for the assistance.

Now, to add my third viewport.

- M4H