Nvidia's Future GTX 580 Graphics Card Gets Pictured (Rumours)

[Skurge]

Looking into it now...
I see that it uses some Cuda code, but at first sight, it doesn't look like much more than an initialization routine.
So it could be that they just used an off-the-shelf nVidia demo graphics engine, and Cuda is being initialized as a side-effect.
I'd have to remove that code and see what it does on an nVidia system.
If it still works without the Cuda code, then getting it to work on AMD hardware is just a formality from there on in.
I've already noticed that it checks for an 'nvidia' string in the device info. So that part is probably easy to 'fix'.

If you could fix it, that would be awesome, but that's if you have the time.

 

[tviceman]

*yawn*

Excellent contribution! That was a well thought out and helpful post!

Or you could stop derailing.

you're right sorry. *yawn*

Amds 6970 (single GPU) will be within ~5% or less performance differnce of the 580. Some Rumors say its beating the 580.

I'm sick of rumors and people basing their opinions on anything/everything that has not been officially confirmed by one legitimate source. I look forward to seeing actual benchmarks from actual reviewers that we trust and are not slanted.

Amds 6990 (dual GPU single card), will be MUCH better performance than 1x580 card.

Neat! Nvidia's dual GPU single card will be MUCH better performance than 1x6970 card. Weird how that works out, huh?

 

[Arkadrel]

@Tviceman,

No I fully expect if nvidia has a 5xx dual gpu singel card, that it ll beat the 6970 too. Just like the 6990 will bet the 580.

Its just the guy above me posted "leaked" pictures of a 580 and claiming it would be faster than the 6990 dual GPU card. Thats why I said the 6990 will be faster than the 580.

Im assumeing that:
1) rumors of 580 = 6970 performance is true. (based on leaked benchmark scores)
2) Past experiance of 5870 vs 5970. Same thing will likely be true with the new cards.

Peronsally Id love to see a full review, write up by a real site than go by rumors too. Unfortunaly we wont be seeing those for abit... so all we have is chinese fabric workers, that for fun stole a few cards and ran benchmarks on them and leaked/sole info to some site that leaks stuff in china.

 

[Sickamore]

Arkadrel remember this is Rumours.

 

[blastingcap]

I'm sick of rumors and people basing their opinions on anything/everything that has not been officially confirmed by one legitimate source. I look forward to seeing actual benchmarks from actual reviewers that we trust and are not slanted.

Nobody forces you to read speculation threads, you know. Just sayin'. For crissake look at the title of this thread: "Nvidia's Future GTX 580 Graphics Card Gets Pictured (Rumours)"

 

[Gloomy]

What a waste of a perfectly good U. There goes proof that Americans are more efficient.

 

[Skurge]

you're right sorry. *yawn*



I'm sick of rumors.

Then stay out of rumour threads. Nobody is forcing you to stay here.

 

[Arkadrel]

You can also check out the Benchmarks below which show that this card even outperforms 2 x HD 5870 is crossfire meaning that it will easily outperform the HD 5970 which is based on two of the HD 5870 cores. Another Benchmark is also posted below in which it is compared to a HD 6870/ HD5870/ GTx 480 and it tops all of them.

<.< It shows 2x5870 vs 2x580... it does not show that 1x580 beats 2x5870.

That was all I was saying... your saying 1x580 beats 2x5870...
and the benchmark picture you posted was showing "2x5870 vs 2x580", so thats obviously not true.


IF this card out performs 1x5970 then why didnt nvidia put it in the benchmarks they leaked?

Maybe it didnt beat it by enough? or maybe it lost to it? 2x580 will beat 1x5970 though....
but what you claim doesnt seem likely that 1x580 will beat a 5970, doesnt look like it from those benchmarks you posted.

 

[Dark Shroud]

Arkadrel remember this is Rumours.

There is a limit though. I don't care if people argue whether the 6970 or 580 is faster until the benches come out. But to say a single 580 will be faster than a current duel GPU card is just ridiculous.

 

[Arkadrel]

But to say a single 580 will be faster than a current duel GPU card is just ridiculous.

My opinon too, also the benchmarks he himself posted show something that looks differnt than what he said. Which is why I made a post...

 

[Lonbjerg]

There is a limit though. I don't care if people argue whether the 6970 or 580 is faster until the benches come out. But to say a single 580 will be faster than a current duel GPU card is just ridiculous.

Why?
There are times where at GTX480 beats a 5970 😕

 

[Sickamore]

If you go back to the pics you can see that the unoffical benchmark shows you that its sli vs xfire and it kicks the ass of the xfire 5870. I wasnt the who wrote the article. This is all rumours. Really and trully isnt a 5870 xfire the same as a 5970. Its dual gpu therefore two sli 580 is going to rock 1 5970 world.

 

[Arkadrel]

@Sickamore,

Your not makeing sense...... do you think that 6970 is a dual gpu from AMD in 1 card? The 6970 is a single GPU card, just like the 580. The 6990 is the dual GPU card from Amd (not the 6970).

I think you have things mixed up, or Im just haveing a hard time understanding what your trying to say.




580 will likely be 15-20&#37; faster than a 480.
6970 is also rumored to be 15-20% faster than a 480.

so

1x 580 looks to be as fast as 1x6970.

Its pretty safe to assume that 2x 580 will be about same as 2x6970's.

 

[tviceman]

Then stay out of rumour threads. Nobody is forcing you to stay here.

That is excellent advice.

 

[Sickamore]

Make sense out of nonsense that was a typo. I know 6970 is on single card And 6990 is a dual gpu. Really and trully its one card but has dual gpu. So what about that you dont understand. I said it correct and will say again. One 5970 against a sli 580 will get its ass whooped. The name alone speaks for itself so i can say one 5970 graph card.

 

[Arkadrel]

The upcoming Geforce GTX 580 Graphics card from Nvidia has been detailed. Lots of benchmarks and Specs sheets have been leaked of the card which is to be built on the GF-110 Core which is a refined version of the GF-100 Core on which GTX 480/470/465 were built. First of all the Inno 3D based card was showed on the net which featured the reference design shown below along with the PCB design. The card will be powered by a single Six pin and One 8 Pin connector and will consume 375W under full load.

You can also notice that this card is much quieter as compared to the GTX 480 as shown in the Acoustics bar below:

The card will feature a 1.5GB (1536MB) GDDR5 Memory along a 384-Bit Wide Memory Interface running at 4008Mhz effectively. The clocks of the card are set at 772/1002/1544 Mhz for Core/Memory/Shader Respectively. The card boasts 512 Cuda Cores to provide extreme gaming performance. One really cool thing about the card which can be viewed in the GPU Caps Viewer Below is that the cards temps at idle are 40C which are quite impressive for a beastly card like itself. This means that the heating issues have been solved in the new chip.

You can also check out the Benchmarks below which show that this card even outperforms 2 x HD 5870 is crossfire meaning that it will easily outperform the HD 5970 which is based on two of the HD 5870 cores. Another Benchmark is also posted below in which it is compared to a HD 6870/ HD5870/ GTx 480 and it tops all of them.
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This means that Nvidia has finally come up with a graphic card which can give a blow to the upcoming Antilles based dual GPU from AMD. The release date has not yet been finalized but it could be really close. The card is said to be priced at 499.99$.You can check out more news on the GTX 580 in the link below:

Read more: http://wccftech.com/2010/11/06/nvidia-geforce-gtx-580-detailed-specs-revealed/#ixzz14YRWnu00​

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Above in bold from your post is a lie <.< thats why I made a post. Your saying that 1x580 is faster than 2x5870.. when non of the those leaked benchmarks you posted show that.

They show 2x 580 beating 2x 5870.
They DO NOT show 1x 580 beating 2x 5870 (like you said).


What you can notice is that:
580 is about 40-60&#37; faster than a 5870. = 15% more than a 480 performance.
(if a 5870 scales from crossfire MORE than 40% then they d beat a 580, in a 1x580vs2x5870)

Good... but the 6970 (single gpu card) is also 40-60% faster than a 5870 or 15% faster than a 480.

=

this means the 6970 and the 580 are likely to have same performance.

(other performance leaks besides the ones you posted here, indicate that the 6970 and 580 perform almost alike)


**edit:
IF the 6970 = 580 performance, and 6990 is faster than a 6970, then unless nvidia has something faster (like a dual gpu card), the 6990 will be the fastest single card on the market when it comes out.

 

[Sickamore]

I will tell you this again its rumours this article id based on. Also i wasnt the one who wrote the article.

 

[Arkadrel]

Ohh I thought you wrote that stuff between the pictures....

So its the guy who wrote the artical thats a crazy person, who doesnt understand english well or didnt bother to look at the pictures he himself leaked in a artical.

He clearly says 1x580 is better than 2x5870, when the pictures of benchmarks he posted himselfs proves him wrong.

 

[Triggaaar]

You can also check out the Benchmarks below which show that this card even outperforms 2 x HD 5870 is crossfire meaning that it will easily outperform the HD 5970 which is based on two of the HD 5870 cores.

I will tell you this again its rumours this article id based on. Also i wasnt the one who wrote the article.

I just assumed you'd made a typo, not that you were quoting someone. You've pasted pictures into your link from an article (which was useful btw), but made it look like you've written the comments in between the graphics. Whoever wrote it, got it wrong.

 

[Arkadrel]

Yeah you can see the 580 is about 40-60&#37; faster than a 5870 (which is ALOT), from looking at those benchmark pictures.

However its not 80-120% or something, so theres just no way that 1x580 can beat 2x5870 in crossfire. Which means that the guy who wrote that artical is lieing when he says 1x580 will be faster than 2x5870's.
(Im assumeing he looked at the pictures before he wrote the artical)

 

[RussianSensation]

Which means that the guy who wrote that artical is lieing when he says 1x580 will be faster than 2x5870's.
(Im assumeing he looked at the pictures before he wrote the artical)

He probably made an honest mistake when looking at the charts.

 

[3DVagabond]

<.< It shows 2x5870 vs 2x580... it does not show that 1x580 beats 2x5870.

That was all I was saying... your saying 1x580 beats 2x5870...
and the benchmark picture you posted was showing "2x5870 vs 2x580", so thats obviously not true.


IF this card out performs 1x5970 then why didnt nvidia put it in the benchmarks they leaked?

Maybe it didnt beat it by enough? or maybe it lost to it? 2x580 will beat 1x5970 though....
but what you claim doesnt seem likely that 1x580 will beat a 5970, doesnt look like it from those benchmarks you posted.

Don't worry about it. The best response is, "reading is fundamental", and redirect them to read the post again. It might take them a couple of times, but eventually they'll catch the fact the post said a single 580 beat 5870 crossfire when the chart clearly shows 580SLI beating 5870 Crossfire.

 

[blastingcap]

FWIW, TechPowerUp hasn't gotten ANY info about the GTX580 yet. No NDA or card. I'm not sure what this means as far as availability if they are so hard pressed that they can't afford to ship a card to W1zzard of all people (creator of GPU-Z). I guess only brown-nosers and truly huge sites like [H] get the early GTX580s or something. Kinda sucks, because I like TPU's reviews for the most part.

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showpost.php?p=2079210&postcount=83

 

[Hauk]

FWIW, TechPowerUp hasn't gotten ANY info about the GTX580 yet. No NDA or card. I'm not sure what this means as far as availability if they are so hard pressed that they can't afford to ship a card to W1zzard of all people (creator of GPU-Z). I guess only brown-nosers and truly huge sites like [H] get the early GTX580s or something. Kinda sucks, because I like TPU's reviews for the most part.

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showpost.php?p=2079210&postcount=83

That's interesting. Yea W1zzard's forum participation is pretty cool too. Have you seen any [legit] sites indicate receiving samples or NDA info?

 

[Lonbjerg]

Ohh I thought you wrote that stuff between the pictures....

So its the guy who wrote the artical thats a crazy person, who doesnt understand english well or didnt bother to look at the pictures he himself leaked in a artical.

Kinda like Char-lie...right?
Oh wait, you like S/A so that is a different matter...right? :hmm: