nVidia's Fermi to be called GTX 470 and 480

[mgon154]

and apparently, the current 200-series will become the 'new' 300-series.

http://www.brightsideofnews.com/new...gen-geforce-to-be-called-gtx-470-and-480.aspx

I can't wait! I'm going to pick up two 480's! (assuming they're $749.99 e :hmm

It's always better to expect less and get more (not price) and then you'll be content. Be prepared for the worst and things will likley turn out better. Here I come Fermi!

 

[mgon154]

They are different architectures. You can't compare them solely by "shaders" because this is the same as the megahertz ratings between AMD CPU's and Intel CPU's. Hell, look at Intel's Pentium4's and their own Core2Duo's. C2D's will outperform a P4 at the same mhz rating.


As far as the renaming goes, it's still from a rumor site. If the rumor is true, I think nVidia is having trouble keeping the costs down for their new architecture. While this is not a problem for the high end, it means that for the low end, and lower mid-end, you'll be stuck with a rebadge of last year's GPU's. Now, this is not as bad as it seems because if you're buying sub-$150 video cards, you're usually not worried about the latest technologies.

Good point. They know fermi's are pricey to make so in order to sell them at a reasonable price they'll have to rebag old cards to make up the profit. And besides how would a mid range user care about all the techy stuff? (nvision, etc.)

 

[Janooo]

If correct then it does not look good. 8000 units? That's close to being called a paper launch.

http://translate.google.com/transla...graphics/news/1002/2042166.html&sl=auto&tl=en

In addition, the first listing GTX480 worldwide, only about 5000-8000 pieces, assigned to the AIC in the hands of the resources would be less.

 

[Hyperlite]

If correct then it does not look good. 8000 units? That's close to being called a paper launch.

http://translate.google.com/transla...graphics/news/1002/2042166.html&sl=auto&tl=en

oh it IS a paper launch. they'll go to OEMs, etc.

 

[zerocool84]

oh it IS a paper launch. they'll go to OEMs, etc.

Damn so maybe April or May for us regular people to even be able to get them and they'll be overpriced cus of low availability. Makes me even more glad I didn't wait and jumped on a 5870.

 

[Cookie Monster]

The full fledged Fermi might be limited, but then there could be plentiful of GTX470 variants. I think the latter will interest alot more people.

 

[nemesismk2]

A sub-100$ GTS250 that doesn't require a power connector and will obliterate a HD5670? Who wouldn't want one? Who cares about DX11 in that segment anyway... And all the HTPC stuff like trans-coding or encoding most likely has or will have CUDA-based applications.

People will buy anything with DX11 because they believe anything they are told by sales people. It's always been that way, anyone remember the Geforce FX 5200. Crap performance in general and even worse performance with DX9 enabled. Sold very very very well Made me lots of money, didn't mention the fact that 256MB made no difference to it's performance. People believe numbers so if it has twice the amount of memory it MUST be twice as fast.

I wouldn't buy anything below the Radeon 5750 for anything DX11 related but I bet the 5450 is going to sell well though.

 

[tviceman]

If correct then it does not look good. 8000 units? That's close to being called a paper launch.

http://translate.google.com/transla...graphics/news/1002/2042166.html&sl=auto&tl=en

oh it IS a paper launch. they'll go to OEMs, etc.

Damn so maybe April or May for us regular people to even be able to get them and they'll be overpriced cus of low availability. Makes me even more glad I didn't wait and jumped on a 5870.

Yeah for a random page google translation which must obviously be pure fact.

 

[Xcobra]

Yeah for a random page google translation which must obviously be pure fact.

Well no one said it was fact. But IF true, then this is gonna be a pretty bad upgrade year for me. Im still on a GTX 260 and luckily can still perform okay with the games I play. Hopefully the HD5000s come down in price.

 

[v8envy]

Think about it, ATI stockpiled for months before launch and still had supply issues. NV is not going to have the luxury of preparing for a launch, they want to get their product out ASAP.

It's more likely to be a media-only launch than not.

 

[blanketyblank]

HD4xxx didn't support DX11 either. Until it was added. Not saying this is what will happen with GTX3xx, but saying it will "never" happen is probably a bit extreme.

Could you give more info on this? I've never heard of the HD4xxx cards being able to support DX11 before. Tried googling, but didn't see any reviews either. A benchmark would be nice as well.

 

[Keysplayr]

Could you give more info on this? I've never heard of the HD4xxx cards being able to support DX11 before. Tried googling, but didn't see any reviews either. A benchmark would be nice as well.

DX11 was added to the R7xx architecture to give us the R8xx architecture.
I suppose you thought I meant the ACTUAL 48xx series had DX11 added to it?
Nope.

 

[ronnn]

Think a little more than dx11 was added.

To quote Dave Bauman on a b3d thread:

"Really? Adding DX11, DirectCompute, higher performance OpenCL, Bitstream Audio, Eyefinity / more panel support aren't necessarily "cheap"."

 

[Keysplayr]

Think a little more than dx11 was added.

To quote Dave Bauman on a b3d thread:

"Really? Adding DX11, DirectCompute, higher performance OpenCL, Bitstream Audio, Eyefinity / more panel support aren't necessarily "cheap"."

I'm sorry, but DX11 was the focal point of the question. If you want to get into every technical option a 5xxx has over a 4xxx, go crazy. But that wouldn't answer the DX11 question.

 

[tviceman]

Well no one said it was fact. But IF true, then this is gonna be a pretty bad upgrade year for me. Im still on a GTX 260 and luckily can still perform okay with the games I play. Hopefully the HD5000s come down in price.

Hyperlite and zerocool interpreted it as fact. Read their comments. But I'm in the same boat as you. If I decide to upgrade to Fermi, perhaps I'll do a thread documenting how long it takes to buy one and how many sites I looked at each day, etc. to see exactly how hard it will be.

Think about it, ATI stockpiled for months before launch and still had supply issues. NV is not going to have the luxury of preparing for a launch, they want to get their product out ASAP.

It's more likely to be a media-only launch than not.

"Stockpiled for months." - I don't know about that. They sold 2 million dx11 cards in the 3 months in which the cards existed in 2009. That in itself doesn't sound like much of stockpile. Most sales came from the 5700 series, which launched after the 5800 series. *IF* they stockpiled anything, it was the 5700 cards, which was likely done to maximize high end card sales and is irrelevant to this particular discussion since those are not performance parts. There will be supply constraints for Fermi at launch, I have no doubt about that. But I don't think it will be any worse/better than 5x00 series had at it's launch.