NVIDIA WHQL Vista Drivers

ronnn

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Things are looking up. Vista may be a worthwhile upgrade in a couple of months.
 

Agentbolt

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Ugh, still no overclocking support. This is getting pretty ridiculous, there's still NO way to overclock your GPU in Vista. I don't see why it's so hard to include that.
 

nullpointerus

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Originally posted by: Agentbolt
Ugh, still no overclocking support. This is getting pretty ridiculous, there's still NO way to overclock your GPU in Vista. I don't see why it's so hard to include that.

The GPU drivers won't ever have overclocking support.

That's been moved into nTune, which doesn't work.

You can make nTune work by setting it up to run with Administrator permissions -- see the shortcut's settings -- but the Motherboard/CPU overclocking section always crashes on my computer. Not sure but I think the GPU section works OK.
 

Agentbolt

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I thought I read somewhere that NVidia planned to allow overclocking in the NVidia Control Panel sometime in the future. I'll try to find the article.

I tried NTune as well but got nowhere with it.
 

BroadbandGamer

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Originally posted by: Agentbolt
Ugh, still no overclocking support. This is getting pretty ridiculous, there's still NO way to overclock your GPU in Vista. I don't see why it's so hard to include that.

I can't see why it's so hard to fix the damn flat panel scaling!!:|
 

Aquila76

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I'm not saying it's right for nVidia to have crappy drivers for Vista, but it isn't even a month old (to the general public). How long did it take for proper XP drivers to come about? This has happened (and will continue to) for each new OS released.
Also the hardware is something NOBODY but nVidia has right now. Who else has written DX10 drivers for a unified shader device on a 64-bit OS? Cut them a little slack.
 

Rommels

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Originally posted by: Aquila76
I'm not saying it's right for nVidia to have crappy drivers for Vista, but it isn't even a month old (to the general public). How long did it take for proper XP drivers to come about? This has happened (and will continue to) for each new OS released.
Also the hardware is something NOBODY but nVidia has right now. Who else has written DX10 drivers for a unified shader device on a 64-bit OS? Cut them a little slack.
Not a valid excuse ATI is on the ball. NVidia dropped the ball.
 

Cookie Monster

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What makes people think ATi will have better drivers with R600 when its released? For all i know, ATi could go through the same as nVIDIA where ATi has to redo its drivers for DX9, DX9 crossfire, DX10, DX10 crossfire, OpenGL, OpenGL Crossfire for Vista.

 

thilanliyan

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Originally posted by: Aquila76
I'm not saying it's right for nVidia to have crappy drivers for Vista, but it isn't even a month old (to the general public). How long did it take for proper XP drivers to come about? This has happened (and will continue to) for each new OS released.
Also the hardware is something NOBODY but nVidia has right now. Who else has written DX10 drivers for a unified shader device on a 64-bit OS? Cut them a little slack.

You are somewhat right...BUT...it's not like NVidia started writing drivers for Vista on January 30th. They have obviously been working with Vista and DX10 for a while...so decent drivers SHOULD be expected. I don't personally care since there are no DX10 games right now but there BETTER be a stable, well performing driver when there is a DX10 game.

I don't think ATI will have the same luxury as NVidia does right now of not having any DX10 games. ATI better have a good driver with the launch of R600(which they have said they would do). The first DX10 games are due in March right?
 

Agentbolt

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Something pretty incredible I read recently is that the new NVidia drivers include over 20 million lines of code, which is actually more than NT 4.0 contained.

That's not an excuse for NVidia, it just means they should've realized how complex this was gonna be and gotten an earlier start
 

Gamingphreek

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Originally posted by: Rommels
Originally posted by: Aquila76
I'm not saying it's right for nVidia to have crappy drivers for Vista, but it isn't even a month old (to the general public). How long did it take for proper XP drivers to come about? This has happened (and will continue to) for each new OS released.
Also the hardware is something NOBODY but nVidia has right now. Who else has written DX10 drivers for a unified shader device on a 64-bit OS? Cut them a little slack.
Not a valid excuse ATI is on the ball. NVidia dropped the ball.

Yea, so how is that R600 running on your system?? Oh yeah, thats right its not out, so no one knows how drivers are running for it.

You do know that neither companies drivers are exactly "top notch" right now...right?

Or are you merely spewing off random fanboy crap?

This happens with every single new OS release. Every time this happens, people get uppity, and start whining and complaining- Hint: You are an early adopter it happens| Don't like it? Don't be an early adopter.

-Kevin

Edit: Oh and my thread has had these drivers up for some time...search function works enough to where you can get to that.
 

nullpointerus

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Originally posted by: Agentbolt
I thought I read somewhere that NVidia planned to allow overclocking in the NVidia Control Panel sometime in the future. I'll try to find the article.
Ah, that's where the confusion comes from. nTune and the GPU drivers integrate themselves into the nVidia Control Panel as additional applets.

The trouble with installing nTune under Vista is that if you try to launch nVidia Control Panel without administrator permissions, you get a bunch of errors. You must specifically right-click on the nTune shortcut and select Run as Administrator (or change the option in the shortcut's Compatibility properties to make it always do this).

I tried NTune as well but got nowhere with it.
Same here. :(

And the nVidia Control Panel has this wierd problem of having to redraw the entire window whenever there's mouse cursor movement in the client area. That's just incompetent Windows GUI programming.
 

Rommels

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Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Originally posted by: Rommels
Originally posted by: Aquila76
I'm not saying it's right for nVidia to have crappy drivers for Vista, but it isn't even a month old (to the general public). How long did it take for proper XP drivers to come about? This has happened (and will continue to) for each new OS released.
Also the hardware is something NOBODY but nVidia has right now. Who else has written DX10 drivers for a unified shader device on a 64-bit OS? Cut them a little slack.
Not a valid excuse ATI is on the ball. NVidia dropped the ball.

Yea, so how is that R600 running on your system?? Oh yeah, thats right its not out, so no one knows how drivers are running for it.

You do know that neither companies drivers are exactly "top notch" right now...right?

Or are you merely spewing off random fanboy crap?

This happens with every single new OS release. Every time this happens, people get uppity, and start whining and complaining- Hint: You are an early adopter it happens| Don't like it? Don't be an early adopter.

-Kevin

Edit: Oh and my thread has had these drivers up for some time...search function works enough to where you can get to that.

I was talking DX9 drivers, after all this thread is about the driver release that is for DX9 cards. Right now there is only a 5%+- difference in performance with ATI drivers on Vista compared to XP. With Nvidia there is about a 30%+- difference, it was about 60%+- until those last beta drivers.

NVidia isn't some little company, they are a multi-billion dollar company. They got caught with their pants down on this one, there really isn't any debate. O BTW...
I never said ATI's were top notch they are at least decent though.
I have an NVidia card and I don't plan on defecting so clearly I'm not some random ATI fanboy.
Nice article
 

Gamingphreek

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I was talking DX9 drivers, after all this thread is about the driver release that is for DX9 cards. Right now there is only a 5%+- difference in performance with ATI drivers on Vista compared to XP. With Nvidia there is about a 30%+- difference, it was about 60%+- until those last beta drivers.

ATI has their rough games too...this isn't Nvidia unique. Also remember that Nvidia has to make a completely new architecture work on those drivers- something which ATI does not have to do just yet.

Both companies have their major problems with Vista (new OS, and different way to write drivers) it seems that because Nvidia has the G80 series out there they are easier to pick on.

-Kevin
 

Aikouka

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Originally posted by: Rommels
I was talking DX9 drivers, after all this thread is about the driver release that is for DX9 cards. Right now there is only a 5%+- difference in performance with ATI drivers on Vista compared to XP. With Nvidia there is about a 30%+- difference, it was about 60%+- until those last beta drivers.

NVidia isn't some little company, they are a multi-billion dollar company. They got caught with their pants down on this one, there really isn't any debate. O BTW...
I never said ATI's were top notch they are at least decent though.
I have an NVidia card and I don't plan on defecting so clearly I'm not some random ATI fanboy.
http://www.computerworld.com/comments/node/9011498]Nice article[/url]

I don't notice such a drastic difference on my 8800GTX when gaming and I still haven't even upgraded to these new drivers ( I hate restarting my computer... I've been postponing that Windows Update restart message for the past week :p ).

EDIT: Fixed a word.
 

SexyK

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I was talking DX9 drivers, after all this thread is about the driver release that is for DX9 cards.

Huh? These drivers support all nVidia DX10 cards as far as I know.

Also, I haven't had any problems OCing using nTune in Vista running as administrator. The OC isnt as large as is possible in XP at this point, but it does work somewhat. The only other issue is that the nTune settings still don't hold after reboot.