Nvidia viral marketing with AEG exposed !!! *UPDATED* *Poll Added*

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: Bumrush99
Does it really matter if Rollo gets banned? Every new post, every reply he makes will be shot down with answers that will be linked to this post. The damage is already done, he no longer has any legitimacy in these forums. Banning him will not change his status here. It is already ruined.

I'd think my credibility would go up from this.

My benchmarks were always verifiable, and now you have a lot more reason to believe any info I give you about nVidia products comes from nVidia.

you are living in a fantasy world if you believe ANYONE but the most naive would believe you . . . now . . . you have a well-established pattern of abusing other members from the first day you joined ATF
:thumbsdown:

Who lead the AEG focus group, Rollo? You?

 

[Munky]

All the people who claim how harmless Rollo is either havent read or have conveniently forgotten these threads:

The PVP debacle
http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...&STARTPAGE=1&FTVAR_FORUMVIEWTMP=Linear

The VTF conspiracy
http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...&STARTPAGE=1&FTVAR_FORUMVIEWTMP=Linear

The non-working HDR+AA lie
http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...&STARTPAGE=1&FTVAR_FORUMVIEWTMP=Linear

The Farcry shadows thread
http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...&STARTPAGE=1&FTVAR_FORUMVIEWTMP=Linear

The texture shimmer cover up
http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...hreadid=1728417&enterthread=y&arctab=y

Oh, and notice how 4/5 of these were locked...

 

[Janooo]

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: MegaWorks
LOL! I knew it from the start that Rollo was not an ordinary fanboy. The funny thing is that he was trying to sell us inferior nVidia product in the past and he thought we where some bunch of morons that would fall for his marketing trap.

I never tried to "sell" inferior products. If you're talking about 5800's, I bought and traded for them and said they weren't as bad as people made them out to be, the second best cards. (honest)

I did the same when I "down graded" to ATI cards in the past (Radeon VIVO was slower than GF2 PRo, etc)- no different.

Rollo,

review sites and many people say that X1900XT/XTX is better and GTX 512 is inferior product. It's generally accepted. You have to be biased to see it differently.
You were "selling" (recomending/making a case/...) for GTX 512 only few days ago. You are caught in another lie.

"Fair and balanced" is another lie. Sir, you are a liar!!!

I am suprised that AEG hasn't ordered you to leave on your own. The damage is going to be bigger with you staying here. I am suprised AEG and NV don't see it.

 

[StrangerGuy]

Meh, just let these AEG guys post all the crap they want, I don't care...I can usually find better video card information with google than in this forum anyway.

 

[jim1976]

Ah Brian..
How did you manage to find yourself in this situation? I honestly believe that a man with your logic and ability to affect ppl opinions, could have actually done much much better.. Actually you could have been a mod if you presented half of the fanboyism you actually did especially the last couple of years.
I know another guy from AEG that is a very knowledgeable guy (probably you know whom I talking about) but you know what? Despite his affiliation with AEG he was one of the more objective guys I've ever met. And with his knowledge he could have easily tricked me many times, but you know what? He never tried to do it with me or to anyone else in forums as far as I know.. Why do you always have to defend Nvidia's world with such persistence that sometimes reaches the limits of absurd?
Honestly m8 I know a man should stand for his word and arguments, but I believe that you owe at least a huge apology to many ppl in here.

 

[allies]

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: Crazyfool
relax,.. kick back,... have a drink on me :beer: <--not coffee either lol ,..and have a good time and enjoy yourselves above all else

This would be a lot easier without Rollo.

His tactics effectively stopped me, a seasoned videocard forum user, from even wanting to look at this particular forum for a while.

Errr, if I somehow stopped you from visiting the forum, you need to realize I hold no sway over anyone and am a hobbyist posting opinions like anyone else.

Knowing he would viciously attack me for mentioning ATI

I've never attacked anyone for merely mentioning ATI. I might have said we don't need references to the 9700Pro/5800 situation for the rest of our lives, but I could care less if anyone owns ATI.

or that I have enjoyed my recent upgrade to an admittedly non-highend X850XT AGP was enough to stop me cold.

Did I ever say anything about your X850? The only time I ever referenced people's video cards was a. to say they can't really comment on features they haven't seen b. to ask them why they care so much about cards they don't own.

I just have to wonder to myself that if a jerk like this can effectively shut down a veteran like myself(and people who know me know I am not shy, I simply didn't want to get banned fighting this jerk) then what is the effect on the noobs here?

You shut yourself down. As noted, I'm a hobbyist posting opinions. When you come here, you have the choice to ignore my posts or engage me in debate. Saying you didn't like my answers so you left the forum altogether isn't an option. You still had the option to ignore my posts, as I likely did yours.

This stuff is not right

What? Freedom of speech?

and I am looking forward to Rollo being banned for all the crap he has pulled here and how he has worked this forum for his employers for years.

I'm sure you are if you feel you can't ignore my posts, and my responses have driven you from the board. My "employers" have nothing to do with video gaming.

I can't imagine his employer would feel good about the tactics he uses to "control"(this is a term AEG uses) the community he is in charge of controlling.

Again, the only control I have is what you give me. If you would have ignored my posts, it's likely we would have never interacted. If you want to debate me, fine, but you sort of have to expect me to answer. (and I might not agree with you)
Whatever AEG and nVidia think of my posts is their business. My style of posting has not changed in a decade and I hope they wanted actual people to for the group, not corporate parrots. If not, my life will go on. This is, after all, just a hobby. Whether I'm in a focus group or not, I'll still be a pc gamer, and still have high end hardware.

Not real crazy about a guy like him controlling a forum like this but that is exactly what he has been doing.

You say that so much I think you actually believe it. I don't think Apoppin and Ackmed ever felt "controlled" by me (and I bet they'd laugh if you suggested it), nor did any of the other members.


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Please stop continuing to spread your FUD. If you were into highest end gaming you'd get ATi cards right now.

 

[ArchAngel777]

Originally posted by: crazydingo

Originally posted by: beggerking

Originally posted by: M0RPH
Wanna know what the difference is, Keys? Rollo annoyed a lot of people here with the way he incessantly tried to bash ATI at every opportunity. He antagonized a lot of people in the flamewars that he started. So all this backlash against him upon finding out he was all the while part of an Nvidia marketing program should not come as any surprise. People on the other boards didn't have to put up with his nonsense, his non-stop ATI bashing and Nvidia evangelism.

Actually, Joker is annoying me now. Lets ban him? for bashing NV at every oppertunity.. oh ya, you bash NV at every oppertunity too... lets ban everybody who doesn't agree with me...pick on them every oppertunity..

do I sound like you/joker now?

Joker isnt slanted like you falsely accuse him to be. Now we know where you are coming from.

I agree, Joker is a great guy and he isn't pro nVidia or ATI. Joker (myself and others include) are tired of the double standards used here. We seen one company get slaughtered for something and then see how some companies are exempt from it... It just isn't right. People have been bashing ATI way to much lately and I fear it is the direct result of people that have an agenda.

Someone trying to skew the facts and suggest a GTX 512 is a better card than the 1900XTX is quite frankly, on crack. Why pay $200+ more for essentially the same thing, but with a different brand? Oh wait, because they are skewing the cards towards nVidia.

Buggerking needs to get lost around here too... He is by far the most anoying person and is quite possibly on par with "Teh Turtle".

 

[Killrose]

Part of the problem with this viral marketing is that not only did it affect the video Forum, it began to spread into the Motherboard Forum as well because of the ATi chipset vs nForce Chipset. Evidently rabid zombie AEG members who get a little wrapped up in things feel they have to show how well they can perform so they are sure to be included in the next round of Compensation giveaways or whatever it is the rabid zombies consider it.

 

[RobertR1]

Originally posted by: beggerking

your insults + flaming :

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So like your other arguments, you can't actually produce evidence to back up your accustaions? Try to stick to what you claim.

I'm still waiting for those posts you claim where I'm advocating the bannning of other members who disagree with me.

 

[Matt2]

DId Rollo ever affect your video card making decisions anyways?

I really, really, really dont understand the point of this thread.

Besides the fact that all the ATI fanboys hate Rollo and now they have a license to openly flame him without fear of repercussion.

 

[mrzed]

Sure the fanboys are jumping all over this thread, but it is about more than that.

There's also a lot of long term members unhappy with the degeneration of Video who rightly feel Rollo has been an instrumental part of this - though admittedly not the only part. It may have little to do with the AEG thing, but there is no way for us to determine that. Consider this thread a giant venting spleen for the discontent.

For those who think this has just turned into a fanboy witch hunt - look around. If you ignore the posts by the obvious trolls, what is left? Why am I posting for example - do you really think I'm an ATI fanboy out for blood?

Why is Pete posting here, and why has he stuck his neck out? I remember another thread not long ago where Pete had the temerity to call Rollo on his trolling behaviour and got attacked for it and his impatiality questioned. That was one of the key pieces for me in realising that things had gone too far. There are some obvious contributors here, and then there are those who muddy their contributions with endless flaming and trolling.

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: Matt2
DId Rollo ever affect your video card making decisions anyways?

I really, really, really dont understand the point of this thread.

Besides the fact that all the ATI fanboys hate Rollo and now they have a license to openly flame him without fear of repercussion.

Thats pretty much what this is.

 

[SickBeast]

nevermind.

 

[Killrose]

^
The most important reason for contributing and hammering this into the ground is to show our extreme displeasure for this type of marketing programme. AEG reads this forum as well as nVidia, ATi, S3/Via, matrox, ect., company guys/gals. They need to understand how we feel about this.

Some of the AEG members ruined a programme that was actually a good idea, but with major flaws not for the company being rep'd, but for the forums which its members made contributions to. Some of it's members felt they had to make "Headline Contributions" in order to stay in good stead AEG so they could be first inline for the next round of "Hardware Giveaway's".

 

[beggerking]

Originally posted by: ArchAngel777

Originally posted by: crazydingo

Originally posted by: beggerking

Originally posted by: M0RPH
Wanna know what the difference is, Keys? Rollo annoyed a lot of people here with the way he incessantly tried to bash ATI at every opportunity. He antagonized a lot of people in the flamewars that he started. So all this backlash against him upon finding out he was all the while part of an Nvidia marketing program should not come as any surprise. People on the other boards didn't have to put up with his nonsense, his non-stop ATI bashing and Nvidia evangelism.

Actually, Joker is annoying me now. Lets ban him? for bashing NV at every oppertunity.. oh ya, you bash NV at every oppertunity too... lets ban everybody who doesn't agree with me...pick on them every oppertunity..

do I sound like you/joker now?

Joker isnt slanted like you falsely accuse him to be. Now we know where you are coming from.

I agree, Joker is a great guy and he isn't pro nVidia or ATI. Joker (myself and others include) are tired of the double standards used here. We seen one company get slaughtered for something and then see how some companies are exempt from it... It just isn't right. People have been bashing ATI way to much lately and I fear it is the direct result of people that have an agenda.

Someone trying to skew the facts and suggest a GTX 512 is a better card than the 1900XTX is quite frankly, on crack. Why pay $200+ more for essentially the same thing, but with a different brand? Oh wait, because they are skewing the cards towards nVidia.

Buggerking needs to get lost around here too... He is by far the most anoying person and is quite possibly on par with "Teh Turtle".

Yes, ATI Fanboys stick together. I honestly believe you guys are worse than Rollo.

 

[beggerking]

Originally posted by: RobertR1

Originally posted by: beggerking

your insults + flaming :

So like your other arguments, you can't actually produce evidence to back up your accustaions? Try to stick to what you claim.

I'm still waiting for those posts you claim where I'm advocating the bannning of other members who disagree with me.


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beggerking:
now I see your only purpose here is simply to ban and insult anyone who has a different opinion than you.

RobertR1's insults:
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Sorry to be a bit off topic but after being on several different message boards for various things: motrocycles, cars and computers, beggerking takes the cake as being the most annoying/irritating/argumentative (without sufficient knowledge) personality by a large margin. If there was a f'in crown, I'd hand it to you, buddy.

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This is getting ridiculous. You're the only one who's having these major issue with an the x1800xl. Everyone else is fine. For a self proclaimed enthusiast who goes through cards at a ridiculous rate, you'd be semi competant at installing a new card. Obviously not the case.

I hope the nickles and dimes being tossed your way are worth the various defmation tactics against one company that you constantly spew on here. You're a sad lilttle man.


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Your lawsuit is pathetic, at best. If it'll help you sleep easier at night at the thought of being able to sue him for defamation, then please, by all accounts, continue to believe it. I'm sure attorney's are lined up at your door to take a crack at this jackpot. Hell, they might even forego their retainer fees and do it on contingency since it's a slam dunk!

Thanks for the laugh, champ!
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Post when you're sober, wreckage........

 

[Wreckage]

Originally posted by: Matt2
DId Rollo ever affect your video card making decisions anyways?

I really, really, really dont understand the point of this thread.

Besides the fact that all the ATI fanboys hate Rollo and now they have a license to openly flame him without fear of repercussion.

Bingo!

 

[beggerking]

Originally posted by: Wreckage

Originally posted by: Matt2
DId Rollo ever affect your video card making decisions anyways?

I really, really, really dont understand the point of this thread.

Besides the fact that all the ATI fanboys hate Rollo and now they have a license to openly flame him without fear of repercussion.

Bingo!

2nd that! looks like there are more radical ATI fanboys than NV fanboys on this forum.

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: Janooo

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: MegaWorks
LOL! I knew it from the start that Rollo was not an ordinary fanboy. The funny thing is that he was trying to sell us inferior nVidia product in the past and he thought we where some bunch of morons that would fall for his marketing trap.

I never tried to "sell" inferior products. If you're talking about 5800's, I bought and traded for them and said they weren't as bad as people made them out to be, the second best cards. (honest)

I did the same when I "down graded" to ATI cards in the past (Radeon VIVO was slower than GF2 PRo, etc)- no different.

Rollo,

review sites and many people say that X1900XT/XTX is better and GTX 512 is inferior product. It's generally accepted. You have to be biased to see it differently.
You were "selling" (recomending/making a case/...) for GTX 512 only few days ago. You are caught in another lie.

"Fair and balanced" is another lie. Sir, you are a liar!!!

I am suprised that AEG hasn't ordered you to leave on your own. The damage is going to be bigger with you staying here. I am suprised AEG and NV don't see it.

Errr, I have never said anything other than the X1900s are the best single cards now unless noise or multi gpu are considered.

This is called "truth".

The problem with ATI fans (many of them) have always been they are narrow minded:
If an ATI card is better at ANYTHING that's the only card that may be recommmended.

When the 9700s were the better cards, even pointing out the 5800s weren't that far behind in anything but the as yet unreleased DX9 games caused a furor. Pointing out the 5800s had the angle independent AF was looked down on, now pointing out X1900s angle independent AF is "the way".

When the 6800s were slightly slower at D3d, faster at OpenGL, and had some interesting new features, it was always "ATI is the fastest! Look at HL2 and Far Cry!"

You people really need to get a grip, this is not the fate of nations.

This whole witch is roughly analogous to:

Rollo: I love Bush's Baked Beans. I know a guy at Bushs who gets them for me half off, and I can tell you they're launching a new line of baked beans that will make you want to wait before you buy Campbells!
Campbells fan: Are you associated in any way with Bushs PR firm to get those discounted beans? Is the discount the catalyst for your recommendation?!
Rollo: No I only get a big discount from Bushs for the last 18 months. If you review my posts for the 8 years before that, you'll see I always preferred Bushes and post disparagingly of Campbells.

<months pass>

Rollo: I want to get something off my chest. I actually am in the PR firms user group, and have gotten some FREE beans from them as well.
Campbells Fan: What?!? Free beans! You LIED to us and may have unduly affected our bean buying choices! Curse you, evil one! Had we known you got the beans FREE and from the PR FIRM, we would have considered your words MUCH differently than the half off and from Bushes as we were lead to believe!

The whole thing is a sad joke. If people who don't care about computer parts read this, they would think we are the saddest losers on the planet for getting this bent out of shape over posts of opinions about video cards.

 

[nitromullet]

Just to clarify... Are Wreckage and beggerking AEG guys as well..? Some people seem to think so, just trying to se the record straight.

 

[Wreckage]

Originally posted by: nitromullet
Just to clarify... Are Wreckage and beggerking AEG guys as well..? Some people seem to think so, just trying to se the record straight.

NO

I get nothing from anyone.

It would be nice to hear such a statement from all of those casting stones.

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: nitromullet
Just to clarify... Are Wreckage and beggerking AEG guys as well..? Some people seem to think so, just trying to se the record straight.

They think this why? because they are pro nvidia? And adamently defend nvidia? Or because they defend Rollo? See where I'm going with this? The mentality here has gone psychotic.

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: Bumrush99
Does it really matter if Rollo gets banned? Every new post, every reply he makes will be shot down with answers that will be linked to this post. The damage is already done, he no longer has any legitimacy in these forums. Banning him will not change his status here. It is already ruined.

I'd think my credibility would go up from this.

My benchmarks were always verifiable, and now you have a lot more reason to believe any info I give you about nVidia products comes from nVidia.

you are living in a fantasy world if you believe ANYONE but the most naive would believe you . . . now . . . you have a well-established pattern of abusing other members from the first day you joined ATF
:thumbsdown:

Who lead the AEG focus group, Rollo? You?

LOL.
Yes I am the criminal mastermind guiding the six of us as we change the face of the internet as you know it, making it a hostile concentration camp where no thoughts other than happy dreams of nVidia are permitted.

:roll:

I think the other guys would laugh hard at your post, my flamboyant ways have never been appreciated by the rest.

As I said earlier, we don't all have to be politically correct clones spouting all sides of every issue.

We're allowed opinions, and my not changing my style of posting for this user group is an indication of my conviction.

If they want me post happy thoughts of nVidia only, they should throw me out now, because I plan to keep posting what I think of all video cards in the fashion I have been.

If they throw me out, and if AT throws me out, I'll keep posting in the same fashion on another board as I have done for the last 10 years.

People who try to control freedom of speech because they don't like what you say anger me.

 

[beggerking]

Originally posted by: nitromullet
Just to clarify... Are Wreckage and beggerking AEG guys as well..? Some people seem to think so, just trying to se the record straight.

no.

so you see, obviously this is just a rally to flame whoever is not on their side. It has nothing to do with AEG at all.

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: nitromullet
Just to clarify... Are Wreckage and beggerking AEG guys as well..? Some people seem to think so, just trying to se the record straight.

I'm not going to "out" anyone, ever. That is their business, not mine.