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Nvidia to launch NV18 and NV28 chips on September 25

ok.. they say that Nvidia is coming out with a Ti4200 8x... how bout the 4600? is that gonna get AGP 8x as well? i woulda thunk that the 4600 would "benefit" more from this anyway (even though real-world performance is not gonna be much more....)
 
these cards wont benifit anything from having agp 8x, heck dont think the 9700 radeon benifits anything from it
 
What about the Holy Grail of Videocards, the NV30? Wasn't that supposed to be shipping this month, or am I thinking of something else?

The allegedly impending release of the NV30 is what's keeping me from purchasing some flavor of GF4. UT2003 is beating my GF3 senseless. 🙁

*EDIT*
And my GF3 is overclocked too. 220/500 as opposed to stock, 200/460. A small but noticeable increase in performance.
 
To hell with that, the fastest video card in my house is only a GF4MX440, and the one I'm using now is a Voodoo3! 😉
 
This is better news, IMO:


Facing the new competition from Nvidia, especially in the medium-range market, ATI Technologies announced that in October it will introduce its Radeon 9500 series, a simpler version of its top-end Radeon 9700 PRO. Though based on the R300 core and offering the AGP 8x specification, the Radeon 9500 series (Radeon 9500 and Radeon 9500 PRO) is designed with four pipelines and DirectX 8.1 support.

The Radeon 9500 PRO and 9500 are quoted at US$219 and US$179, respectively. ATI started small-scale shipments to its card-manufacturing partners lately. Full-scale production will begin next month.

Edit: But why strip DX9 support?
 
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
This is better news, IMO:


Facing the new competition from Nvidia, especially in the medium-range market, ATI Technologies announced that in October it will introduce its Radeon 9500 series, a simpler version of its top-end Radeon 9700 PRO. Though based on the R300 core and offering the AGP 8x specification, the Radeon 9500 series (Radeon 9500 and Radeon 9500 PRO) is designed with four pipelines and DirectX 8.1 support.

The Radeon 9500 PRO and 9500 are quoted at US$219 and US$179, respectively. ATI started small-scale shipments to its card-manufacturing partners lately. Full-scale production will begin next month.

Edit: But why strip DX9 support?
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Is it just me, or does that sound like an upgraded 9000?
Almost like the MX line, GF2/GF4 bastardized cards, sounds like this will be a R200/R300 bastard.

Why did ATi have to follow in nVidias footsteps with their lame naming scheme, what's wrong with the first digit representing DX version, and the following numbers essentially representing performance class? 🙁
 
Originally posted by: Sunner
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
This is better news, IMO:


Facing the new competition from Nvidia, especially in the medium-range market, ATI Technologies announced that in October it will introduce its Radeon 9500 series, a simpler version of its top-end Radeon 9700 PRO. Though based on the R300 core and offering the AGP 8x specification, the Radeon 9500 series (Radeon 9500 and Radeon 9500 PRO) is designed with four pipelines and DirectX 8.1 support.

The Radeon 9500 PRO and 9500 are quoted at US$219 and US$179, respectively. ATI started small-scale shipments to its card-manufacturing partners lately. Full-scale production will begin next month.

Edit: But why strip DX9 support?
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Is it just me, or does that sound like an upgraded 9000?
Almost like the MX line, GF2/GF4 bastardized cards, sounds like this will be a R200/R300 bastard.

Why did ATi have to follow in nVidias footsteps with their lame naming scheme, what's wrong with the first digit representing DX version, and the following numbers essentially representing performance class? 🙁
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heh, the mx line is hardly a bastardized GF4. more like a souped up GF256.

i think my opinion of agp 8x is well-known. so i feel no-need to restate myself.
 
Originally posted by: Dug
UT2003 is beating my GF3 senseless
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Don't worry about it. UT2004 beats GF4's senseless too.
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UT2003 on my ATI 8500 128 works great and is smooooth. At least it is on gameplay, I haven't played with the benchmarks anyway.

Edit: with FSAA turned on it is ok but has a slight pause in frame rate every 15 or so seconds....controls don't seem as responsive either.
 
Originally posted by: Aquaman
The question is will the new cards have problems with 8X AGP ?

Cheers,
Aquaman
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I think it's been determined that the AGP 8x issue is a motherboard issue, not a videocard issue.
 
Czar what resolution with your ATI 9700 pro on unreal 2003 with 4x FSAA and all details on maximum ? Also do you have AF on at all?

 
Originally posted by: Sunner


Why did ATi have to follow in nVidias footsteps with their lame naming scheme, what's wrong with the first digit representing DX version, and the following numbers essentially representing performance class? 🙁
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Nvidia to launch NV18 and NV28 chips on September 25
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WHO CARES? What about the NV30? 😉


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The GF4 like refresh was coming, everyone should have known that. People's upgrading changes happen all the time, so each time a new card comes out, it will hit someone that wants an upgrade. With the bashing of the ATI and Nvidia happening, we all must realize that people buy for their desires at the time of their desires. If people are waiting ofr NV30, they aren't just waiting for a specific card, they are basically saying "by the time I am ready to upgrade, the NV30 will be out".

Flamebaits aside, I hope ATI does keep delivering and bring a refresh of the 9700 Pro soon (aka, 6 months from now). If they can, watch the NV30 prices drop.

vash
 
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