Nvidia to kill off FX 5900XT

[nRollo]

Yes I did. I was playing it and all of a sudden graphical anomalies started. SO I shut it off and tried it again and it was worse. Then i reinstalled drivers checked the fan and unoverclocked . Tried it again it got worse and worse and then it had all these lines gouing through the screen even in 2d.

Gee, Bugs, do you think if you had never OCd it in the first place you wouldn't have destroyed it needlessly?

 

[SneakyStuff]

I'm workin on gettin mine up to 1 GHz on the memory clock, the 5700u's were MADE to be overclocked

 

[Iceblu]

i intend buying a Gainward 5900XT before they disappear.

 

[CaiNaM]

Originally posted by: BenSkywalker

well, i think the article is correct in this area, stating it was to meant to cut in to the 9600xt sales.. which it did. why on earth they didn't forsee it also cutting into the 5700 sales is beyond me....

I don't see it that way. They had the 5900 in production and didn't see the demand they had hoped for so they pretty much had to come up with a cheaper solution to combat the competition and also to flush chips out of the channel. If they aren't already, I expect all the 59xx parts to be out of production within a few weeks(though it will take a bit for the channels to clear) so the NV40 can move in and take over the high end. They need to have a $200 price point card and they won't keep the NV35 core in production for that reason alone(too large for a market with that low of margins), so they start shipping a souped up FX5700 to take its place in that segment when the supply of the NV35 cores dries up.

well, the 5900nu/utlra parts have been out of production for some time now, and for the most part "out of channel" for the last month or two...

but to ship 2 cards at the same pricepoint, one considerably more capable than the other.. i have no clue how you would not expect one to cannibalize the less capable's market shares....

i remember one of the first reviews on the xt/se back in december, and they were kind of scratching their heads about why on earth they would market the xt/se immediately after the 5700u release - at the same price point - as it would compete and possibly cut into the 5700u market...

what's even more perplexing is that with the more expensive pcb layout and ddr2 memory, the 5700u was/is probably a more expensive part to produce... but i suppose since we aren't privvy to nv's internal business reasoning, we'll just have to sit on the outside, speculate, and debate amongst ourselves

 

[xcript]

Good thing I just ordered an MSI FX5900XT-VTD128.

 

[RussianSensation]

Who cares if 5900XT/SE will die when Radeon 9800NP is $173 with 9700Pros hovering at around $180 as well, which are both faster cards especially with AA/AF enabled even if you overclock the xt to ultra speeds.

Besides, with new cards to hit retail in may the prices will see a cut by like 50% immediately making 5900Ultra at $170 or lower and then it really will make no difference as at this point no one in their right mind will ever consider buying a 9600Pro or a 5700Ultra (whose sales are being hurt apparently) If Nvidia doesn't find 5900 xt profitable they should have axed it long time ago, as doing it now does not make any sense logically. And what where they thinking spending more $$$ for introducing GDDR3 on the 5700Ultra....what a waste...didn't these people go to a business school cause they sure don't know how to manage their product lines or determine pricing strategy.

 

[nemesismk2]

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
im glad to see the 5900xt die, it deserved it

Why do you say that?

 

[nemesismk2]

Originally posted by: RussianSensation
Who cares if 5900XT/SE will die when Radeon 9800NP is $173 with 9700Pros hovering at around $180 as well, which are both faster cards especially with AA/AF enabled even if you overclock the xt to ultra speeds.

Besides, with new cards to hit retail in may the prices will see a cut by like 50% immediately making 5900Ultra at $170 or lower and then it really will make no difference as at this point no one in their right mind will ever consider buying a 9600Pro or a 5700Ultra (whose sales are being hurt apparently) If Nvidia doesn't find 5900 xt profitable they should have axed it long time ago, as doing it now does not make any sense logically. And what where they thinking spending more $$$ for introducing GDDR3 on the 5700Ultra....what a waste...didn't these people go to a business school cause they sure don't know how to manage their product lines or determine pricing strategy.

Although your comment might be true for where you live elsewhere in the world the market is very different.

Show me where I can obtain a better video card than my msi fx5900 xt vtd128 with similar specs for £114 inc tax which btw is what I paid for mine?

 

[Soulkeeper]

good deal
i like nvidia cards
never treated me wrong since i replaced my voodoo5
hehehe

 

[compfreak999]

im happy with my nivida card abit geforce 4 ti4200 with zalman heatpipe

 

[Creig]

Well, the new video cards are coming out soon. Maybe they needed the production ability.

 

[RussianSensation]

Originally posted by: nemesismk2

Originally posted by: RussianSensation
Who cares if 5900XT/SE will die when Radeon 9800NP is $173 with 9700Pros hovering at around $180 as well, which are both faster cards especially with AA/AF enabled even if you overclock the xt to ultra speeds.

Besides, with new cards to hit retail in may the prices will see a cut by like 50% immediately making 5900Ultra at $170 or lower and then it really will make no difference as at this point no one in their right mind will ever consider buying a 9600Pro or a 5700Ultra (whose sales are being hurt apparently) If Nvidia doesn't find 5900 xt profitable they should have axed it long time ago, as doing it now does not make any sense logically. And what where they thinking spending more $$$ for introducing GDDR3 on the 5700Ultra....what a waste...didn't these people go to a business school cause they sure don't know how to manage their product lines or determine pricing strategy.

Although your comment might be true for where you live elsewhere in the world the market is very different.

Show me where I can obtain a better video card than my msi fx5900 xt vtd128 with similar specs for £114 inc tax which btw is what I paid for mine?

Yeah you are right I forgot about Europe and the rest of the world only thinking blindly of the NA world. Either way with the introduction of Geforce 6800 and X800 on April 13th and 26th respectively, take 1-2 months down the road and you'll be able to get top of the line cards for the price much lower than what 5900xt costs right now anyways making it not worth it once again.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Yeah you are right I forgot about Europe and the rest of the world only thinking blindly of the NA world

Shame on you! Forgetting about your roots! J/K "In Soviet Russia, Country forgets you!"

 

[Matthias99]

Besides, with new cards to hit retail in may the prices will see a cut by like 50% immediately

Only if the new card or cards debut at $200-250. If previous product line releases are any indication, I'm thinking more along the lines of $400-500 for at least the first few months.

I believe the ATI 9800Pro still has a MSRP of $299; no way that's going to fall to $150 in any short amount of time. Prices will fall on today's cards when the next-generation midrange and low-end cards come in to take their place, not when tomorrow's super-high-end parts first become available at inflated prices.

 

[CaiNaM]

let's not forget almost 2 years after release the 9700pro is much closer to $200 than it is it $100. this seems to be ignored by the many people forecasting the 9800pro will a $100 card.

the least expensive i've seen (excluding refurb and ebay) is $184 shipped from allstarshop.com. right now the lease expensive 9800pro to be found online is around $210 (powered by ati); the BBA ati is around $230 online, and with the exception of some limited time blowout deals we've seen, B&M's still sell them for the $299 MSRP. I would really be surprised to see it get to $175 before the channels dry up...

heck, i just got $130 on ebay for a USED 9600pro... i paid $149 after MIR for that card almost a year ago...

 

[BugsBunny1078]

How can anyone be selling those cards if they don't make them anymore?

 

[edmundoab]

well I guess thats the end of the FX range as NVidia starts producing Geforce 6800 instead

 

[BugsBunny1078]

Originally posted by: SneakyStuff
I'm workin on gettin mine up to 1 GHz on the memory clock, the 5700u's were MADE to be overclocked

Well I had my ram set to 1.02 ghz and it worked well. No problem at all. That painkiller demo was too much for it. As long as you stick to other games you should be fine.Maybe the final version will be easier on graphic cards.

 

[SneakyStuff]

I've got painkiller maxed out on my system, and it runs FLAWLESSLY. Your card must have been defective or something. I can run Far Cry also.

 

[RussianSensation]

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER

Yeah you are right I forgot about Europe and the rest of the world only thinking blindly of the NA world

Shame on you! Forgetting about your roots! J/K "In Soviet Russia, Country forgets you!"

It's funny that you mentioned that because about 10 years ago if you left the country they wanted your passport and citizenship thus making you no longer a citizen. Then you'd have to get a visa if you ever wanted to go back and visit...how pathetic is that? Luckily now you can keep the citizenship and can fly there anytime if you are russian. But it costs like $150 to renew the passport every 5 years. grrrrrrrrrr....You should go visit, Moscow and St. Petersburg offer a culture you'll never see anywhere else (of course be on the lookout at all times for trouble ) And russian girls are amazing...for a while here in Canada i thought I had permanent blindness when looking at the women....grrrrrr

cant have everything i guess

 

[nemesismk2]

Originally posted by: BugsBunny1078
How can anyone be selling those cards if they don't make them anymore?

Oldstock, incomplete back orders etc!

 

[rbV5]

Not dead Yet? Fuad seems to have his thumb on the pulse of the industry these days

"We are pleased to be able to confirm that 5900XT will continue to be available for some time to come and that we have no plans at this time to end of life the product. The 5900 XT has sold extremely well, worldwide, and as you said yourself 'there is huge demand for these extremely good cards' so we are in no hurry to stop selling them".

 

[CaiNaM]

heh.. nice find.

at least the inq retracts stuff.. maybe they just throw sh*t at the wall just to get a reaction? or just gives us something to talk about, lol.

 

[rbV5]

Originally posted by: CaiNaM
heh.. nice find.

at least the inq retracts stuff.. maybe they just throw sh*t at the wall just to get a reaction? or just gives us something to talk about, lol.

True That! the inq is definately entertaining if nothing else.

 

[lordtyranus2]

Right now it seems that the 9600 pro retails around $130 and the 9700 pro is around $180. If the 5700 ultra could fit between that price bracket, it might sell well.